General Fighting thread

[AdamM]

George St Pierre v Matt Serra
GSP fought a perfect game plan. I don't regret the bet because the odds were daft, but Serra was totally dominated. Seeing him stood next to Kenny Florian in the post fight interview makes me think he'll move down to Lightweight for one last push at glory. I don't see him fighting GSP again.

Rich Franklin v Travis Lutter
Excellent defense 1st round by Franklin. How he rolled out of the armbar is a mystery. Lutter's tank was totally empty and Franklin picked him apart. Still the bench mark for what a Middleweight contender needs to be. I see him fighting Dan Henderson later in the year as an eliminator for a title shot.

Kalib Starnes v Nate Quarry
Starnes didn't want to fight. I was only commenting to a friend before the fight, you don't get many 10-8 rounds. One judge scored the 3 rounder 30-24 and rightly so.

Mike Bisping v Charles McCarthy
As Scott said, Bisping looked awesome at 185. McCarthy is nothing special, but Bisping gave him a pasting. I think he'll get fed another similar level fighter follwed by a couple of name middleweights like Leben, Quarry, then hopefully a top 5 opponent late next year.

Mac Danzig v Mark Bokec
Danzig couldn't finish Bokec but I enjoyed his performance. Still think he looks like a great prospect.

Good show. I'll take any of those fights over a 12 round grind for excitement

McDonald to beat Doerkson
Haven't seen the fight yet but Looks like I got this right.

I see Ed Herman lost again. He was supposed to be something special but hasn't made an impact since his TUF.

[booder]

another terrific UFC bill. i also thought Bisping looked awesome, and i think Danzig, with the right training could be a great fighter.nothing seems to faze the guy and he is one of the most relaxed fighters inside the ring.

[byronkincaid]

The Spider
Height 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m)
Weight 185 lb (84 kg)

GSP
Height 5 ft 10.5 in (1.79 m)
Weight 170 lb (77 kg/12 st)

one off best fighter in da world special at say 80kg?

[Benny Brox]

Yeah, entertaining card but disappointed at some of the competition on the live show, Lutter, McCarthy and Starnes were terrible and shouldn't be on a live show again any time soon. If Lutter can get his weight-cutting in order he could be a decent contender, he's had both Silva and Franklin in trouble on the ground.

McCarthy showed he's just a fat jiu-jitsu guy and Starnes deserves to be ridiculed. He actually gave Quarry the finger and challenged one of his corner men to a fight after running away for 3 rounds. Quarry vs Bisping is a good shout and Danzig's looking like another top contender in an already stacked division.

GSP outclassed Serra and it would be good to see him and Silva have a scrap. There's talk of Fitch being the next challenger but GSP will take care of him easily.

[thediceman]

I can GSP dominating the division for a long time, as long as he remains focused and ultimately surpassing Matt Hughes as the best ever welterweight.

[AdamM]

the GSP v Silva super fight is often talked about but I believe won't happen. both are fighting at their natural weights and have the potential to dominate for a considerable stretch. There's a decent talent pool for both weights, with last seasons TUF being at welterweight and this seasons at middleweight.

Just can't see it.

[AdamM]

oh, and Danzig trains at Extreme Couture, so there's no doubt he'll get the right coaching. He'll be menacing the top 10 very soon.

[Benny Brox]

I see Chuck Liddell has pulled out of his fight with Evans due to an injury. I can't see Evans fighting on this card now, there's no headline opponents left I can think of - Silva, Jackson and Griffin are all fighting soon and Rua is injured. I can see them pulling a fight forward like Florian vs Huerta to headline instead.

[AdamM]

arse, that's not great news.

I agree, they'll probably pull Evans, or find him an opponent but put a new headline on. Maybe Jardine?

Florian v Huerta as a eliminator to fight the winner of Penn v Sherk at UFC 84 would be good.

[AdamM]

forgot, Jardine is fighting Wanderlai Silva.

don't know then. have to see what they come up with.

[byronkincaid]

program about kids doing muay thai tonight 9pm channel 4. if it's anything like the article about it in the NOTW last sunday it will most likely be a semi hysterical rant.

[AdamM]

thanks,I'll watch that

[AdamM]

Not very pleasant viewing.

I'm all for kids learning martial arts but I don't think stepping in a ring or cage is appropriate for really young children. I was struck particularly by the high skill level shown in training, particularly from the kids from London and Melton. However 9 is too young to be fighting so seriously. The 5 year olds was just sickening.

It's an undeveloped opinion at the minute, but I think Combat sports and self protection martial arts aren't really appropriate for pre-secondary school kids, although I'm not against training them younger.

My club plans to introduce juniors classes but it'll definitely be age 11+ and even then.

[AdamM]

Spoke to Mike Bisping and Seni08 today. He told me his next fight will be Chris Leben but didn't say exactly when. UFC 87 or 88 at a guess. That'll be a war.

Other fighters spotted / spoke to were Dan Henderson (not as big as I thought) Minatauro Nogeuira (big mean looking dude) Jeff Monson (widest neck EVER) Ian Freeman (amazes me he fought at heavyweight, coming out of retirement as lightheavy but could easily make middle) Royce Gracie (legend, looks the same as he did 15 years ago at UFC1)

[Benny Brox]

Bisping's fighting Leben at 85 in London, Hughes vs Alves is now the main event after Chuck's injury. Evans is fighting James Irvin. Looks a decent card even though Chuck won't be there.