Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary

[celtic]

G-Luton, from July 1st, have started a new wheeze.

IF - & only of - you register 15 minutes BEFORE the advertised start time, you get an extra 1,500 (I think, it may be 2,000) starting chips.

Its easy to see the potential problems this may cause, with folks in the queue claiming they WOULD have been 15 mins early but for a delay in Reception, & all sorts of dodges by players trying to find a work-round, but hats off to the G for at least showing some initiative.

Fair to say, if I get there 15 minutes early, & the comp starts late - as it invariably does there - the smartarse comments wll be in full-flow.

The root cause of the idea, I suspect, is the Grosvenor wide edict of refusing to allow new Tables to be opened once the Comp starts.

Sunday was typical - at advertised start time, there were only 15 players present, so 3 Tables was the probable maximum. They delayed the start - you can see why, though I think that's wrong wrong wrong. I took the time & trouble to be there on time, & so had to waste 30 minutes to accomodate latecomers. How can that be right? Anyway, eventually, they started 30 minutes late with 20+ players, & 50 players or so turned up in the end, so all was well.

So back to those "bonus" starting chips. Is that really fair, or correct, to give some players a chip advantage over others? Is it fair to reward punctuality? Currently, late players are penalised 1.5 x BB. Why not penalise them 1,500?

Interesting decision, & I fancy, & not one that G-Luton will escape negative comment about. But fair play to them for trying something different.

I'm just not convinced that's fair, or correct, though.

as I understand it, there's not just a 1500 bonus for registering 15 minutes early, but also a 1500 penalty for registering after the start of the tournament, so in a tournament with an advertised 10k stack players will start with either 11.5k, 10k, or 8.5k

I welcome the initiave - Sunday's are a great example - over recent weeks less than 10 registered at the start has been the norm, with latecomers then complaining that they can't get a seat after the few tables that are opened fill up.

A 1500 penalty for registering after the tounament has started? Where did you get this from?

That means if someone plays the £5 rebuy, they get 2500 if they are there and regd 15 mins before, 1000 if they are there 10 mins before and -500 chips if they reg late. Can't see that understanding of the rules is right claw....

[tikay]

G-Luton, from July 1st, have started a new wheeze.

IF - & only of - you register 15 minutes BEFORE the advertised start time, you get an extra 1,500 (I think, it may be 2,000) starting chips.

Its easy to see the potential problems this may cause, with folks in the queue claiming they WOULD have been 15 mins early but for a delay in Reception, & all sorts of dodges by players trying to find a work-round, but hats off to the G for at least showing some initiative.

Fair to say, if I get there 15 minutes early, & the comp starts late - as it invariably does there - the smartarse comments wll be in full-flow.

The root cause of the idea, I suspect, is the Grosvenor wide edict of refusing to allow new Tables to be opened once the Comp starts.

Sunday was typical - at advertised start time, there were only 15 players present, so 3 Tables was the probable maximum. They delayed the start - you can see why, though I think that's wrong wrong wrong. I took the time & trouble to be there on time, & so had to waste 30 minutes to accomodate latecomers. How can that be right? Anyway, eventually, they started 30 minutes late with 20+ players, & 50 players or so turned up in the end, so all was well.

So back to those "bonus" starting chips. Is that really fair, or correct, to give some players a chip advantage over others? Is it fair to reward punctuality? Currently, late players are penalised 1.5 x BB. Why not penalise them 1,500?

Interesting decision, & I fancy, & not one that G-Luton will escape negative comment about. But fair play to them for trying something different.

I'm just not convinced that's fair, or correct, though.

as I understand it, there's not just a 1500 bonus for registering 15 minutes early, but also a 1500 penalty for registering after the start of the tournament, so in a tournament with an advertised 10k stack players will start with either 11.5k, 10k, or 8.5k

I welcome the initiave - Sunday's are a great example - over recent weeks less than 10 registered at the start has been the norm, with latecomers then complaining that they can't get a seat after the few tables that are opened fill up.

No - that was not my understanding of the flyer. But it amounts to that, which is quite different.

[Geo the Sarge]

G-Luton, from July 1st, have started a new wheeze.

IF - & only of - you register 15 minutes BEFORE the advertised start time, you get an extra 1,500 (I think, it may be 2,000) starting chips.

Its easy to see the potential problems this may cause, with folks in the queue claiming they WOULD have been 15 mins early but for a delay in Reception, & all sorts of dodges by players trying to find a work-round, but hats off to the G for at least showing some initiative.

Fair to say, if I get there 15 minutes early, & the comp starts late - as it invariably does there - the smartarse comments wll be in full-flow.

The root cause of the idea, I suspect, is the Grosvenor wide edict of refusing to allow new Tables to be opened once the Comp starts.

Sunday was typical - at advertised start time, there were only 15 players present, so 3 Tables was the probable maximum. They delayed the start - you can see why, though I think that's wrong wrong wrong. I took the time & trouble to be there on time, & so had to waste 30 minutes to accomodate latecomers. How can that be right? Anyway, eventually, they started 30 minutes late with 20+ players, & 50 players or so turned up in the end, so all was well.

So back to those "bonus" starting chips. Is that really fair, or correct, to give some players a chip advantage over others? Is it fair to reward punctuality? Currently, late players are penalised 1.5 x BB. Why not penalise them 1,500?

Interesting decision, & I fancy, & not one that G-Luton will escape negative comment about. But fair play to them for trying something different.

I'm just not convinced that's fair, or correct, though.

It's nothing new TK, a few casinos have been running these "early bird" bonuses for quite a while. The Circus here in Edinburgh has been doing it for well over a year and initially you did get some trying the old, "but I was held up by reception".

Generally it has now settled down and does seem to work. Edinburgh also operates a "no show by the time the first hand is dealt, lose a small blind every hand" and anyone leaving the table mid tourney for more than 5 hands also gets small blinded each hand until they return.

Good to see you posting again.

Geo

[Claw75]

G-Luton, from July 1st, have started a new wheeze.

IF - & only of - you register 15 minutes BEFORE the advertised start time, you get an extra 1,500 (I think, it may be 2,000) starting chips.

Its easy to see the potential problems this may cause, with folks in the queue claiming they WOULD have been 15 mins early but for a delay in Reception, & all sorts of dodges by players trying to find a work-round, but hats off to the G for at least showing some initiative.

Fair to say, if I get there 15 minutes early, & the comp starts late - as it invariably does there - the smartarse comments wll be in full-flow.

The root cause of the idea, I suspect, is the Grosvenor wide edict of refusing to allow new Tables to be opened once the Comp starts.

Sunday was typical - at advertised start time, there were only 15 players present, so 3 Tables was the probable maximum. They delayed the start - you can see why, though I think that's wrong wrong wrong. I took the time & trouble to be there on time, & so had to waste 30 minutes to accomodate latecomers. How can that be right? Anyway, eventually, they started 30 minutes late with 20+ players, & 50 players or so turned up in the end, so all was well.

So back to those "bonus" starting chips. Is that really fair, or correct, to give some players a chip advantage over others? Is it fair to reward punctuality? Currently, late players are penalised 1.5 x BB. Why not penalise them 1,500?

Interesting decision, & I fancy, & not one that G-Luton will escape negative comment about. But fair play to them for trying something different.

I'm just not convinced that's fair, or correct, though.

as I understand it, there's not just a 1500 bonus for registering 15 minutes early, but also a 1500 penalty for registering after the start of the tournament, so in a tournament with an advertised 10k stack players will start with either 11.5k, 10k, or 8.5k

I welcome the initiave - Sunday's are a great example - over recent weeks less than 10 registered at the start has been the norm, with latecomers then complaining that they can't get a seat after the few tables that are opened fill up.

A 1500 penalty for registering after the tounament has started? Where did you get this from?

That means if someone plays the £5 rebuy, they get 2500 if they are there and regd 15 mins before, 1000 if they are there 10 mins before and -500 chips if they reg late. Can't see that understanding of the rules is right claw....

maybe I misread it - will check

edit - just read the original post again - my mistake.  Personally I would prefer a bigger penalty for latecomers rather than the early 'bonus', but it's clear something needed to be done if the 'no new tables' rule is set in stone.

[tikay]

G-Luton, from July 1st, have started a new wheeze.

IF - & only of - you register 15 minutes BEFORE the advertised start time, you get an extra 1,500 (I think, it may be 2,000) starting chips.

Its easy to see the potential problems this may cause, with folks in the queue claiming they WOULD have been 15 mins early but for a delay in Reception, & all sorts of dodges by players trying to find a work-round, but hats off to the G for at least showing some initiative.

Fair to say, if I get there 15 minutes early, & the comp starts late - as it invariably does there - the smartarse comments wll be in full-flow.

The root cause of the idea, I suspect, is the Grosvenor wide edict of refusing to allow new Tables to be opened once the Comp starts.

Sunday was typical - at advertised start time, there were only 15 players present, so 3 Tables was the probable maximum. They delayed the start - you can see why, though I think that's wrong wrong wrong. I took the time & trouble to be there on time, & so had to waste 30 minutes to accomodate latecomers. How can that be right? Anyway, eventually, they started 30 minutes late with 20+ players, & 50 players or so turned up in the end, so all was well.

So back to those "bonus" starting chips. Is that really fair, or correct, to give some players a chip advantage over others? Is it fair to reward punctuality? Currently, late players are penalised 1.5 x BB. Why not penalise them 1,500?

Interesting decision, & I fancy, & not one that G-Luton will escape negative comment about. But fair play to them for trying something different.

I'm just not convinced that's fair, or correct, though.

It's nothing new TK, a few casinos have been running these "early bird" bonuses for quite a while. The Circus here in Edinburgh has been doing it for well over a year and initially you did get some trying the old, "but I was held up by reception".

Generally it has now settled down and does seem to work. Edinburgh also operates a "no show by the time the first hand is dealt, lose a small blind every hand" and anyone leaving the table mid tourney for more than 5 hands also gets small blinded each hand until they return.
Good to see you posting again.

Geo

Blimey - that's a bit draconian, Geo!

And thank you.

[tikay]

EVERY decent footballer wore one. It was almost mandatory. The medical evidence was overwhelming - they aided breathing. Don't argue, it WAS so. The Sports Equipment suppliers told us so.

So what happened to nasal strips?

They were followed by "warm-downs".

The latast craze for footballers (though I'm struggling with the commercial angle) is ice baths. WTF?

I've not seen a single "nasal strip" in football for some time now. Did the craze just die? Were the boffins proved wrong?

[dik9]

Nah, it's just the snorers wanted them more

[Geo the Sarge]

G-Luton, from July 1st, have started a new wheeze.

IF - & only of - you register 15 minutes BEFORE the advertised start time, you get an extra 1,500 (I think, it may be 2,000) starting chips.

Its easy to see the potential problems this may cause, with folks in the queue claiming they WOULD have been 15 mins early but for a delay in Reception, & all sorts of dodges by players trying to find a work-round, but hats off to the G for at least showing some initiative.

Fair to say, if I get there 15 minutes early, & the comp starts late - as it invariably does there - the smartarse comments wll be in full-flow.

The root cause of the idea, I suspect, is the Grosvenor wide edict of refusing to allow new Tables to be opened once the Comp starts.

Sunday was typical - at advertised start time, there were only 15 players present, so 3 Tables was the probable maximum. They delayed the start - you can see why, though I think that's wrong wrong wrong. I took the time & trouble to be there on time, & so had to waste 30 minutes to accomodate latecomers. How can that be right? Anyway, eventually, they started 30 minutes late with 20+ players, & 50 players or so turned up in the end, so all was well.

So back to those "bonus" starting chips. Is that really fair, or correct, to give some players a chip advantage over others? Is it fair to reward punctuality? Currently, late players are penalised 1.5 x BB. Why not penalise them 1,500?

Interesting decision, & I fancy, & not one that G-Luton will escape negative comment about. But fair play to them for trying something different.

I'm just not convinced that's fair, or correct, though.

It's nothing new TK, a few casinos have been running these "early bird" bonuses for quite a while. The Circus here in Edinburgh has been doing it for well over a year and initially you did get some trying the old, "but I was held up by reception".

Generally it has now settled down and does seem to work. Edinburgh also operates a "no show by the time the first hand is dealt, lose a small blind every hand" and anyone leaving the table mid tourney for more than 5 hands also gets small blinded each hand until they return.
Good to see you posting again.

Geo

Blimey - that's a bit draconian, Geo!

And thank you.

TBH, one of the workarounds was to get a mate to reg you and then you'd turn up later and still benefit from the bonus..................this soon put a stop to that.

Geo

[vegaslover]

G-Luton, from July 1st, have started a new wheeze.

IF - & only of - you register 15 minutes BEFORE the advertised start time, you get an extra 1,500 (I think, it may be 2,000) starting chips.

Its easy to see the potential problems this may cause, with folks in the queue claiming they WOULD have been 15 mins early but for a delay in Reception, & all sorts of dodges by players trying to find a work-round, but hats off to the G for at least showing some initiative.

Fair to say, if I get there 15 minutes early, & the comp starts late - as it invariably does there - the smartarse comments wll be in full-flow.

The root cause of the idea, I suspect, is the Grosvenor wide edict of refusing to allow new Tables to be opened once the Comp starts.

Sunday was typical - at advertised start time, there were only 15 players present, so 3 Tables was the probable maximum. They delayed the start - you can see why, though I think that's wrong wrong wrong. I took the time & trouble to be there on time, & so had to waste 30 minutes to accomodate latecomers. How can that be right? Anyway, eventually, they started 30 minutes late with 20+ players, & 50 players or so turned up in the end, so all was well.

So back to those "bonus" starting chips. Is that really fair, or correct, to give some players a chip advantage over others? Is it fair to reward punctuality? Currently, late players are penalised 1.5 x BB. Why not penalise them 1,500?

Interesting decision, & I fancy, & not one that G-Luton will escape negative comment about. But fair play to them for trying something different.

I'm just not convinced that's fair, or correct, though.

It's nothing new TK, a few casinos have been running these "early bird" bonuses for quite a while. The Circus here in Edinburgh has been doing it for well over a year and initially you did get some trying the old, "but I was held up by reception".

Generally it has now settled down and does seem to work. Edinburgh also operates a "no show by the time the first hand is dealt, lose a small blind every hand" and anyone leaving the table mid tourney for more than 5 hands also gets small blinded each hand until they return.
Good to see you posting again.

Geo

Blimey - that's a bit draconian, Geo!

And thank you.

I don't think it's draconian at all. You of all people Tikay should know that there is little alternative but punitive measures to get people to turn up on time.

[NoflopsHomer]

What will those poker players do with those extra 15 mins that could possibly benefit the casino 

Cynic.

[tikay]

G-Luton, from July 1st, have started a new wheeze.

IF - & only of - you register 15 minutes BEFORE the advertised start time, you get an extra 1,500 (I think, it may be 2,000) starting chips.

Its easy to see the potential problems this may cause, with folks in the queue claiming they WOULD have been 15 mins early but for a delay in Reception, & all sorts of dodges by players trying to find a work-round, but hats off to the G for at least showing some initiative.

Fair to say, if I get there 15 minutes early, & the comp starts late - as it invariably does there - the smartarse comments wll be in full-flow.

The root cause of the idea, I suspect, is the Grosvenor wide edict of refusing to allow new Tables to be opened once the Comp starts.

Sunday was typical - at advertised start time, there were only 15 players present, so 3 Tables was the probable maximum. They delayed the start - you can see why, though I think that's wrong wrong wrong. I took the time & trouble to be there on time, & so had to waste 30 minutes to accomodate latecomers. How can that be right? Anyway, eventually, they started 30 minutes late with 20+ players, & 50 players or so turned up in the end, so all was well.

So back to those "bonus" starting chips. Is that really fair, or correct, to give some players a chip advantage over others? Is it fair to reward punctuality? Currently, late players are penalised 1.5 x BB. Why not penalise them 1,500?

Interesting decision, & I fancy, & not one that G-Luton will escape negative comment about. But fair play to them for trying something different.

I'm just not convinced that's fair, or correct, though.

It's nothing new TK, a few casinos have been running these "early bird" bonuses for quite a while. The Circus here in Edinburgh has been doing it for well over a year and initially you did get some trying the old, "but I was held up by reception".

Generally it has now settled down and does seem to work. Edinburgh also operates a "no show by the time the first hand is dealt, lose a small blind every hand" and anyone leaving the table mid tourney for more than 5 hands also gets small blinded each hand until they return.
Good to see you posting again.

Geo

Blimey - that's a bit draconian, Geo!

And thank you.

I don't think it's draconian at all. You of all people Tikay should know that there is little alternative but punitive measures to get people to turn up on time.

Yeah, on reflection, I agree.  Have the buggers shot.

[celtic]

Why do the take the sb after 5 hands if someone leaves the table? Seems really unfair.

[Geo the Sarge]

G-Luton, from July 1st, have started a new wheeze.

IF - & only of - you register 15 minutes BEFORE the advertised start time, you get an extra 1,500 (I think, it may be 2,000) starting chips.

Its easy to see the potential problems this may cause, with folks in the queue claiming they WOULD have been 15 mins early but for a delay in Reception, & all sorts of dodges by players trying to find a work-round, but hats off to the G for at least showing some initiative.

Fair to say, if I get there 15 minutes early, & the comp starts late - as it invariably does there - the smartarse comments wll be in full-flow.

The root cause of the idea, I suspect, is the Grosvenor wide edict of refusing to allow new Tables to be opened once the Comp starts.

Sunday was typical - at advertised start time, there were only 15 players present, so 3 Tables was the probable maximum. They delayed the start - you can see why, though I think that's wrong wrong wrong. I took the time & trouble to be there on time, & so had to waste 30 minutes to accomodate latecomers. How can that be right? Anyway, eventually, they started 30 minutes late with 20+ players, & 50 players or so turned up in the end, so all was well.

So back to those "bonus" starting chips. Is that really fair, or correct, to give some players a chip advantage over others? Is it fair to reward punctuality? Currently, late players are penalised 1.5 x BB. Why not penalise them 1,500?

Interesting decision, & I fancy, & not one that G-Luton will escape negative comment about. But fair play to them for trying something different.

I'm just not convinced that's fair, or correct, though.

It's nothing new TK, a few casinos have been running these "early bird" bonuses for quite a while. The Circus here in Edinburgh has been doing it for well over a year and initially you did get some trying the old, "but I was held up by reception".

Generally it has now settled down and does seem to work. Edinburgh also operates a "no show by the time the first hand is dealt, lose a small blind every hand" and anyone leaving the table mid tourney for more than 5 hands also gets small blinded each hand until they return.
Good to see you posting again.

Geo

Blimey - that's a bit draconian, Geo!

And thank you.

I don't think it's draconian at all. You of all people Tikay should know that there is little alternative but punitive measures to get people to turn up on time.

Yeah, on reflection, I agree.  Have the buggers shot.

Lol, in Edinburgh Casinos this is an alternative ;-)

Geo

[mondatoo]

Why do the take the sb after 5 hands if someone leaves the table? Seems really unfair.

Yeah,Grosvenor up my way used to do it years ago dunno if they still do but it's an abs ridic rule.

[Geo the Sarge]

Why do the take the sb after 5 hands if someone leaves the table? Seems really unfair.

Haven't a clue tbh Vinny, always been that way since I can remember

Geo