A controversial One

[Royal Flush]

Who cares?

[Claw75]

Interesting one.  This is the relevant article of the Act:

Right to respect for private and family life
 
1 Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence.
2 There shall be no interference by a public authority with the exercise of this right except such as is in accordance with the law and is necessary in a democratic society in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others.

My personal point of view is that it seems to be pushing the boundaries of what was intended by the legislation to suggest that not allowing AI would be in breach of that article.  Legislation is always open to interpretation (as is shown here by the fact that the ruling was not unanimous).  It would be interesting to hear the debates and reasoning given for the ruling.

[celtic]

What about the child?

No father around for the formative years of its life. Ex con for a mother, cant be a good start for it.

Forget all this human rights bollocks, make them suffer, make him realise that he is prison beacause he took someones life, stop him from creating a new life until he is free man.

[thetank]

Should a prisoner be able to post sperm to his missus? I'm with Flushy on this one.

Too many of us are exhibiting the typical knee-jerk indignance that is common whenever we hear a story in the papers of prisoners who are doing anything other than breaking rocks. (How very dare they)

I can't blame you, that's exactly why the story is there. To stir emotions and sell papers. You villager puppets must dance when your strings are pulled so go ahead and wave those pitchforks.

The chestnut argument about having beurocrats reign over who gets to have kids with child licences or whatever has been either jokingly, naiively, idiotically or fascistically suggested. (pick one) 
I find the very prospect of such a thing sick. We as individuals, and by extension governments and judicial systems, have no right to decide who can procreate and who can't.

But what about the rights of the, as yet, unconcieved children. If we wanted to, we can justify just about anything to safeguard these (including genocide) Bottom line, if I live in a trailer and want to have babies with my PE teacher, it's nobody's buisness but ours. You don't like it, move to China.

[celtic]

Wrong Wrong Wrong Tank.

A man goes to prison he should lose his rights to the 'normal' things in life.

IAn HUntley had a playstation 2 days after their release in his cell. We pay tax to look afer the likes of him and maxine carr and the wee prick that killed jamie bulger.  Why are these idiots treated like guests in a hotel rather than a convict in a prison. BEING SENTENCED TO A JAIL TERM THEN YOU LOSE ALL YOUR RIGHTS TO LIVE A FULL & NORMAL LIFE IMO.

[thetank]

Wrong Wrong Wrong Tank.

A man goes to prison he should lose his rights to the 'normal' things in life.

IAn HUntley had a playstation 2 days after their release in his cell. We pay tax to look afer the likes of him and maxine carr and the wee prick that killed jamie bulger.  Why are these idiots treated like guests in a hotel rather than a convict in a prison. BEING SENTENCED TO A JAIL TERM THEN YOU LOSE ALL YOUR RIGHTS TO LIVE A FULL & NORMAL LIFE IMO.

Time for the weekly spot the difference contest.

- FULL & NORMAL LIFE
- playstation 2

Answers on a postcard (so long as there's no spunk on it)

[byronkincaid]

50's pretty old to be having more children isn't it? She may not have that many years left if her photo's accurate

http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/band112/b112-6.html

[celtic]

Wrong Wrong Wrong Tank.

A man goes to prison he should lose his rights to the 'normal' things in life.

IAn HUntley had a playstation 2 days after their release in his cell. We pay tax to look afer the likes of him and maxine carr and the wee prick that killed jamie bulger.  Why are these idiots treated like guests in a hotel rather than a convict in a prison. BEING SENTENCED TO A JAIL TERM THEN YOU LOSE ALL YOUR RIGHTS TO LIVE A FULL & NORMAL LIFE IMO.

Time for the weekly spot the difference contest.

- FULL & NORMAL LIFE
- playstation 2

Answers on a postcard (so long as there's no spunk on it)

[bolt pp]

Wrong Wrong Wrong Tank.

A man goes to prison he should lose his rights to the 'normal' things in life.

IAn HUntley had a playstation 2 days after their release in his cell. We pay tax to look afer the likes of him and maxine carr and the wee prick that killed jamie bulger.  Why are these idiots treated like guests in a hotel rather than a convict in a prison. BEING SENTENCED TO A JAIL TERM THEN YOU LOSE ALL YOUR RIGHTS TO LIVE A FULL & NORMAL LIFE IMO.

Time for the weekly spot the difference contest.

- FULL & NORMAL LIFE
- playstation 2

Answers on a postcard (so long as there's no spunk on it)

 

[Dingdell]

What about the child?

No father around for the formative years of its life. Ex con for a mother, cant be a good start for it.

Forget all this human rights bollocks, make them suffer, make him realise that he is prison beacause he took someones life, stop him from creating a new life until he is free man.

   Totally agree.

[suzanne]

I'm sorry BUT..  for a start ...prison pen pals ? what a fkn joke...do they come in forum sections..ie Rapist 18 - 30  Rapists 30 - 60. Peado's likes boys seeks freinship /  Peado's Girls.   Male lifer seeks simlar to discuss the the finer things in more detail. Female PE tutor seeks lesbian sex from minor any race considered.


Then to the main issue. They were allowed to marry.  

Now they want to start a family. I suggest they wait until he leaves his prison, see if they are still in love (lol) then start ..if he is too old tough luck prick, wake up you have no rights.

 

I feel sorry for the kid if this ever happens. She is 49yrs old so would be 50+ when he/she is born which increase the chances of the child being born with disabilities. At 50+ the mother would find it hard to keep up with your average tantrum toddler never mind a child with problems.

She was convicted of benefit fraud so presumably she is still on the dole. Her (so called) hubby could be out in a couple of years but how long do you think he will stick around with a new/much older wife he has never lived with before and a screaming toddler he has not had the chance to bond with!!

He will be going from one prison to another which is likely to screw his brain up even more, at worse it will result in him going back to jail for murdering the missus...at best he will leave her and the poor kid will be brought up by a geriatric mother who will not be able to cope.

I think I watch too many soaps :-)

Its just ridiculous that this case was even allowed to be taken so far.

[bolt pp]

"The care of human life and happiness, and not thier destuction, is the first and only object of good government"

[celtic]

"The care of human life and happiness, and not thier destuction, is the first and only objsct of good government"

A rare, carefully considered and accurate post from Bolt.

 

[bolt pp]

"The care of human life and happiness, and not thier destuction, is the first and only objsct of good government"

A rare, carefully considered and accurate post from Bolt.

 

Cant be me that said it then

[bolt pp]

"We ought always to deal justly, not only with those that are just to us, but likewise to those who would endeavour to injure us; and this, for fear lest by rendering them evil for evil, we should fall into the same vice"