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« Reply #10125 on: September 14, 2010, 10:46:50 AM »

Tom, as it is a cold day in Yorkshire I've decided to cook a gammon shank(bacon bones?)! It's on the go now and I will be adding all sorts of veg later. Is the bone ok for billie when we are done with it? Or does the 'cooked bones' rule apply!?



"Bacon bones" are traditionally the ribs sov, cooked with dark cabbage and potatoes.





Shank is a leg bone. This cut often includes smaller bones and a ball joint. Either way, the "Cooked bones" rule applies.


Also, most bacon-pork-gammon-ham etc is heavily salted. Dogs don't cope well with salt.

Enjoy.  Tongue
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« Reply #10126 on: September 14, 2010, 10:51:30 AM »

Tom, as it is a cold day in Yorkshire I've decided to cook a gammon shank(bacon bones?)! It's on the go now and I will be adding all sorts of veg later. Is the bone ok for billie when we are done with it? Or does the 'cooked bones' rule apply!?



Yes. Very much so.

Also pig is generally no good for a dog's digestion.

Just let her watch and drool.
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« Reply #10127 on: September 14, 2010, 11:48:07 AM »

Swell.  I usually trim off the fat after cooking and add it to their food as a treat.  That's tonight's treat out the window now.
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« Reply #10128 on: September 14, 2010, 11:51:23 AM »

Swell.  I usually trim off the fat after cooking and add it to their food as a treat.  That's tonight's treat out the window now.

It won't kill 'em Dawn don't panic.

Also mixed in with other food it'll be kind of diluted.

As long as they're not fat and don't get the squirts after then don't worry about it.
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« Reply #10129 on: September 14, 2010, 11:57:08 AM »

Tom, as it is a cold day in Yorkshire I've decided to cook a gammon shank(bacon bones?)! It's on the go now and I will be adding all sorts of veg later. Is the bone ok for billie when we are done with it? Or does the 'cooked bones' rule apply!?



"Bacon bones" are traditionally the ribs sov, cooked with dark cabbage and potatoes.





Shank is a leg bone. This cut often includes smaller bones and a ball joint. Either way, the "Cooked bones" rule applies.


Also, most bacon-pork-gammon-ham etc is heavily salted. Dogs don't cope well with salt.

Enjoy.  Tongue

Cheers Red.

Me and the missus are trying to reduce our food cost (que jokes about me being fat etc), so we are trying to buy cheaper cuts of meat.  I've seen gammon shanks at morrisons for a while so yesterday I went all out and got one.  Bought a load of veg too with the idea of a hearty meal!

I'm interested traditional Gypsy meals, I know previously I've asked something similar and you told me about breakfast and bacon bones.  In terms of evening meals limited by open air cooking did this mean most meals were similar with an all in one pot approach or are there some more extravagant meals that you would really look forward too?
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« Reply #10130 on: September 14, 2010, 12:09:02 PM »

Tom, as it is a cold day in Yorkshire I've decided to cook a gammon shank(bacon bones?)! It's on the go now and I will be adding all sorts of veg later. Is the bone ok for billie when we are done with it? Or does the 'cooked bones' rule apply!?



I'm intrigued. why did you think these particular cooked bones might be exempt from the cooked bones rule?
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« Reply #10131 on: September 14, 2010, 12:10:07 PM »


Also pig is generally no good for a dog's digestion.


Any idea why this is? I would have thought that canines do prey on porcines (wild boar, etc) in the wild? Or maybe not, I don't know.
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« Reply #10132 on: September 14, 2010, 12:22:17 PM »


Also pig is generally no good for a dog's digestion.


Any idea why this is? I would have thought that canines do prey on porcines (wild boar, etc) in the wild? Or maybe not, I don't know.

meh, it's arguable. there's a disease that they can catch but it has to be from an infected animal and it's pretty uncommon. humans can catch it too, the difference being that our food is more likely to be cooked killing the worm that causes the infection

pork in itself is not a problem
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« Reply #10133 on: September 14, 2010, 12:48:46 PM »

Tom, as it is a cold day in Yorkshire I've decided to cook a gammon shank(bacon bones?)! It's on the go now and I will be adding all sorts of veg later. Is the bone ok for billie when we are done with it? Or does the 'cooked bones' rule apply!?



I'm intrigued. why did you think these particular cooked bones might be exempt from the cooked bones rule?

due to its size i guess.

sorry
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« Reply #10134 on: September 14, 2010, 12:50:41 PM »

because it's big or small? I have abs no idea how big a bacon bone is
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« Reply #10135 on: September 14, 2010, 12:53:10 PM »

because it's big or small? I have abs no idea how big a bacon bone is

its really big, i thought the cooked bone rule applied to chicken etc when it was cooked in the oven and wasnt sure if the same applied to gammon shank as its much bigger and is being boiled therefore i thought maybe less likely to splinter. 

I wanted to ask rather than just go with my gut and have the dog choke!!

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« Reply #10136 on: September 14, 2010, 03:42:30 PM »

Tom, as it is a cold day in Yorkshire I've decided to cook a gammon shank(bacon bones?)! It's on the go now and I will be adding all sorts of veg later. Is the bone ok for billie when we are done with it? Or does the 'cooked bones' rule apply!?



"Bacon bones" are traditionally the ribs sov, cooked with dark cabbage and potatoes.





Shank is a leg bone. This cut often includes smaller bones and a ball joint. Either way, the "Cooked bones" rule applies.


Also, most bacon-pork-gammon-ham etc is heavily salted. Dogs don't cope well with salt.

Enjoy.  Tongue

Cheers Red.

Me and the missus are trying to reduce our food cost (que jokes about me being fat etc), so we are trying to buy cheaper cuts of meat.  I've seen gammon shanks at morrisons for a while so yesterday I went all out and got one.  Bought a load of veg too with the idea of a hearty meal!

I'm interested traditional Gypsy meals, I know previously I've asked something similar and you told me about breakfast and bacon bones.  In terms of evening meals limited by open air cooking did this mean most meals were similar with an all in one pot approach or are there some more extravagant meals that you would really look forward too?



When I was a kid there was a saying amongst Gypsies (Might have also been used by Gorgers, I don't know) It went something like this.

Q: "What's for tea mam?"

A: "What ever you can catch"

And, basically, that's how it often was. We ate a lot of rabbits, hares, pheasants, pigeons, hedgehogs etc, along with any veg we could "liberate" from a quiet corner of a farmers field.

Failing that, there was (almost) always a loaf of bread and a pot of jam or a bit of cheese.

Another regular meal was a two bob wrap up from a friendly butcher. "Wrap up" was actually a euphemism for a couple of sheets of newspaper filled with all the little waste offcuts and trimmings from proper joints of meat. Usually, there were bits of everything, from burst sausage and bits of brisket, to fatty slices of steak and dark salty bacon. Fried up, and served with a doorstop, it was absolutely delicious.

God I'm Hungry...   

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« Reply #10137 on: September 14, 2010, 06:22:30 PM »

Ty red!

My meal wasn't great!  Veg was hard!

Defo going to try and cook with cheaper cuts of meat, more of a challenge!
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« Reply #10138 on: September 14, 2010, 06:54:28 PM »

stuffed lamb's hearts are the best if you can find them
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« Reply #10139 on: September 14, 2010, 10:20:55 PM »

Hedgehogs?? I am intrigued ....... how do you cook one?
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