Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary

[EvilPie]

Pretty sure translucent concrete's been around for years.

Also it isn't really an invention. They've just taken two other inventions, concrete and fibre optic and combined them together.

More of an innovation if anything.

[doubleup]

All of that stuff fascinates me. Muons are the ones that can go through anything. They were the ones that caused all the trouble with whether e still equalled mc²

the thing i don't understand is if e is in units of badbeat rage and m is in units of baked potatoes does e still equal mc²?  Is it an actual relationship between e and m or does it just mean there's a feckin unbelievable amount of e in m btw?

e = energy
m = mass

the equation shows that they are actually the same thing, just in a different form.  In other words, you can take energy and make mass; you can take mass and make energy.

I know its energy and mass - my point was - is it joules and kg and doesn't work with rages and potatoes or is it just a general statement that there's a lot of energy in things with mass

[tikay]

Pretty sure translucent concrete's been around for years.

Also it isn't really an invention. They've just taken two other inventions, concrete and fibre optic and combined them together.

More of an innovation if anything.

That's what happens when amateurs discuss complex stuff like concrete. Leave it to the experts, and discuss curtain making, imo.

[kinboshi]

All of that stuff fascinates me. Muons are the ones that can go through anything. They were the ones that caused all the trouble with whether e still equalled mc²

the thing i don't understand is if e is in units of badbeat rage and m is in units of baked potatoes does e still equal mc²?  Is it an actual relationship between e and m or does it just mean there's a feckin unbelievable amount of e in m btw?

e = energy
m = mass

the equation shows that they are actually the same thing, just in a different form.  In other words, you can take energy and make mass; you can take mass and make energy.

I know its energy and mass - my point was - is it joules and kg and doesn't work with rages and potatoes or is it just a general statement that there's a lot of energy in things with mass

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalence#Practical_examples

Is that what you mean?

[Karabiner]

This hot weather's making me grumpy as fk.

[doubleup]

All of that stuff fascinates me. Muons are the ones that can go through anything. They were the ones that caused all the trouble with whether e still equalled mc²

the thing i don't understand is if e is in units of badbeat rage and m is in units of baked potatoes does e still equal mc²?  Is it an actual relationship between e and m or does it just mean there's a feckin unbelievable amount of e in m btw?

e = energy
m = mass

the equation shows that they are actually the same thing, just in a different form.  In other words, you can take energy and make mass; you can take mass and make energy.

I know its energy and mass - my point was - is it joules and kg and doesn't work with rages and potatoes or is it just a general statement that there's a lot of energy in things with mass

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalence#Practical_examples

Is that what you mean?

yes - the formula seems to require relationships between several units of measurement when these units of measurement were invented completely independently. 

[kinboshi]

All of that stuff fascinates me. Muons are the ones that can go through anything. They were the ones that caused all the trouble with whether e still equalled mc²

the thing i don't understand is if e is in units of badbeat rage and m is in units of baked potatoes does e still equal mc²?  Is it an actual relationship between e and m or does it just mean there's a feckin unbelievable amount of e in m btw?

e = energy
m = mass

the equation shows that they are actually the same thing, just in a different form.  In other words, you can take energy and make mass; you can take mass and make energy.

I know its energy and mass - my point was - is it joules and kg and doesn't work with rages and potatoes or is it just a general statement that there's a lot of energy in things with mass

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalence#Practical_examples

Is that what you mean?

yes - the formula seems to require relationships between several units of measurement when these units of measurement were invented completely independently. 

Is that not true with other physical equations?  E=½mv² works as the equation for working out kinetic energy even if you use 'potatoes' for the mass and 'usains' for the velocity.  It just gives you an amount of energy, in 'units'.

[doubleup]

All of that stuff fascinates me. Muons are the ones that can go through anything. They were the ones that caused all the trouble with whether e still equalled mc²

the thing i don't understand is if e is in units of badbeat rage and m is in units of baked potatoes does e still equal mc²?  Is it an actual relationship between e and m or does it just mean there's a feckin unbelievable amount of e in m btw?

e = energy
m = mass

the equation shows that they are actually the same thing, just in a different form.  In other words, you can take energy and make mass; you can take mass and make energy.

I know its energy and mass - my point was - is it joules and kg and doesn't work with rages and potatoes or is it just a general statement that there's a lot of energy in things with mass

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalence#Practical_examples

Is that what you mean?

yes - the formula seems to require relationships between several units of measurement when these units of measurement were invented completely independently. 

Is that not true with other physical equations?  E=½mv² works as the equation for working out kinetic energy even if you use 'potatoes' for the mass and 'usains' for the velocity.  It just gives you an amount of energy, in 'units'.

from your wiki article

In the SI system (expressing the ratio E / m in joules per kilogram using the value of c in meters per second)

If rather than meters per second, I use miles per second, I get a different answer for "e" in joules.  If using meters gives the "correct" answer, doesn't that mean there is a link between the units of measurement?



   

[kinboshi]

All of that stuff fascinates me. Muons are the ones that can go through anything. They were the ones that caused all the trouble with whether e still equalled mc²

the thing i don't understand is if e is in units of badbeat rage and m is in units of baked potatoes does e still equal mc²?  Is it an actual relationship between e and m or does it just mean there's a feckin unbelievable amount of e in m btw?

e = energy
m = mass

the equation shows that they are actually the same thing, just in a different form.  In other words, you can take energy and make mass; you can take mass and make energy.

I know its energy and mass - my point was - is it joules and kg and doesn't work with rages and potatoes or is it just a general statement that there's a lot of energy in things with mass

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalence#Practical_examples

Is that what you mean?

yes - the formula seems to require relationships between several units of measurement when these units of measurement were invented completely independently. 

Is that not true with other physical equations?  E=½mv² works as the equation for working out kinetic energy even if you use 'potatoes' for the mass and 'usains' for the velocity.  It just gives you an amount of energy, in 'units'.

from your wiki article

In the SI system (expressing the ratio E / m in joules per kilogram using the value of c in meters per second)

If rather than meters per second, I use miles per second, I get a different answer for "e" in joules.  If using meters gives the "correct" answer, doesn't that mean there is a link between the units of measurement?



   

If you use miles rather than metres, the answer for the energy isn't in joules. Same if you replaced metres with miles in the kinetic energy equation.

Simplified further, speed/velocity is distance travelled in a specific time. SI units are metres and seconds, but these can be replaced with any units that measure time and distance, such as feet and minutes, or double-decker buses and heartbeats. The number produced by the equation will be different, as the units have a different relationship.

There are other examples on that page of units used in the equation as well as the SI units.

[kinboshi]

Actually, I think I understand your point now. Joules aren't an arbitrary unit, they are related to other SI units such as the metre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joule

[Redsgirl]

All of that stuff fascinates me. Muons are the ones that can go through anything. They were the ones that caused all the trouble with whether e still equalled mc²

the thing i don't understand is if e is in units of badbeat rage and m is in units of baked potatoes does e still equal mc²?  Is it an actual relationship between e and m or does it just mean there's a feckin unbelievable amount of e in m btw?

e = energy
m = mass

the equation shows that they are actually the same thing, just in a different form.  In other words, you can take energy and make mass; you can take mass and make energy.

I know its energy and mass - my point was - is it joules and kg and doesn't work with rages and potatoes or is it just a general statement that there's lots of energy in things with mass

[Redsgirl]

Had to look up a word I hadn't come across before today, Homophone, which I now know means words which sound the same but have different meaning, like muscle and mussel or tire and tyre.

Inordinately pleased with this little gem of information, and I like this little homophone poem so much I thought I'd share it.


    His death, which happen'd in his berth,
    At forty-odd befell:
    They went and told the sexton, and
    The sexton toll'd the bell.

[Tal]

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Love that.

There are also homonyms, which are spelt and sound the same but mean different things:

"Your Majesty! The peasants are revolting!"
"I know that, but what are they doing?"

[Tal]

Mr Dog, I know this is spam, but I can't be bothered to write it all out again and I know you like old stuff, so here you go:

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=58441.msg1812996#msg1812996

[TightEnd]

reckon this belongs here (for the finer daily pictures)

This Walrus is taking a nap on a submarine in the Bering straits

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