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My Welsh isn't brilliant but I think it's a commendation from the council for how well you found a space for your vehicle.
"Parking Fine."
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Quote from: RED-DOG on August 29, 2013, 07:56:38 AM
I found this on my windscreen. I'm not absolutely sure, but it looks like I've been booked for a charity event. .
Can someone translate it please?
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Too easy.
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Grand Concert
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Just remember, if you see a door that has PULL on it, do the opposite.
Little English Welsh joke there, language fans...
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Quote from: tikay on August 29, 2013, 08:02:55 AM
Quote from: RED-DOG on August 29, 2013, 07:56:38 AM
I found this on my windscreen. I'm not absolutely sure, but it looks like I've been booked for a charity event. .
Can someone translate it please?
Click to see full-size image.
Too easy.
cyngerdd
is Welshish for "Concert", &
mawreddog
is "majestic".
Effectively,
Grand Concert
Mawreddog means majestic? Surely that can't be coincidence.
Do you think the person who invented that word knows me?
Was it you Dewi?
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Quote from: Tal on August 29, 2013, 08:06:29 AM
Just remember, if you see a door that has PULL on it, do the opposite.
Little English Welsh joke there, language fans...
Lol.
I'm pretending I got it.
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Quote from: RED-DOG on August 29, 2013, 08:10:04 AM
Quote from: Tal on August 29, 2013, 08:06:29 AM
Just remember, if you see a door that has PULL on it, do the opposite.
Little English Welsh joke there, language fans...
Lol.
I'm pretending I got it.
It's a double L gag.
Saw it on an episode of How 2 about twenty years ago.
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Quote from: RED-DOG on August 29, 2013, 06:36:11 AM
Quote from: technolog link=topic=30601.msg1832678#msg1832678, 4#msg1832714 date=1377724411
I got the 'sent to Cov' reference. Problem arose when I assumed Dawn did too. What I didn't get is why Tom might think Dawn's sent him there.
She asked me a question on the 22nd, I answered it, but I felt like it was not really the reply she was hoping for. After that, I didn't hear anything else from her for days.
I thought I had upset the silly mare.
I tend to offend people without meaning to, I can't imagine why.....
Ahhhhhhhhhh, NOW I get it! I appreciated the reply muchly, honest.
Yeah, your answer sucked...because it meant working harder on their training and I just wasn't sure if it was possible to teach them.
Didn't want to report back until we were at wits end or had good news, but we've been working a great deal on it since and as it happens, they're getting better. Long way to go yet, but they're MUCH better than even a couple of weeks ago and I'm starting to see light at the end of the recall tunnel.
Still think that woman is wrong for bringing an aggressive dog to what she knows is an established community dog club play time when she has no interest in working on socialising with her dogs.
That said, my time is better spent working with the boys than trying to fight the rights and wrongs with her.
I really do appreciate your help/advice. Even when it's a pain in the arse sometimes. xx
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Quote from: Laxie, xie on August 29, 2013, 09:45:24 AM
Quote from: RED-DOG on August 29, 2013, 06:36:11 AM
Quote from: technolog link=topic=30601.msg1832678#msg1832678, 4#msg1832714 date=1377724411
I got the 'sent to Cov' reference. Problem arose when I assumed Dawn did too. What I didn't get is why Tom might think Dawn's sent him there.
She asked me a question on the 22nd, I answered it, but I felt like it was not really the reply she was hoping for. After that, I didn't hear anything else from her for days.
I thought I had upset the silly mare.
I tend to offend people without meaning to, I can't imagine why.....
Ahhhhhhhhhh, NOW I get it! I appreciated the reply muchly, honest.
Yeah, your answer sucked...because it meant working harder on their training and I just wasn't sure if it was possible to teach them.
Didn't want to report back until we were at wits end or had good news, but we've been working a great deal on it since and as it happens, they're getting better. Long way to go yet, but they're MUCH better than even a couple of weeks ago and I'm starting to see light at the end of the recall tunnel.
Still think that woman is wrong for bringing an aggressive dog to what she knows is an established community dog club play time when she has no interest in working on socialising with her dogs.
That said, my time is better spent working with the boys than trying to fight the rights and wrongs with her.
I really do appreciate your help/advice. Even when it's a pain in the arse sometimes. xx
Just to labour the point where even further, everyone who has trouble with recall is guilty of calling their dog to see if it will come. That's fine, until the time that it doesn't. At that point, it learns two things. It doesn't have to,come, and you can't make it.
At the risk of sounding immodest, my dog always comes when I call her simply because she doesn't know not coming is an option.
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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Quote from: RED-DOG on August 29, 2013, 10:31:09 AM
Quote from: Laxie, xie on August 29, 2013, 09:45:24 AM
Quote from: RED-DOG on August 29, 2013, 06:36:11 AM
Quote from: technolog link=topic=30601.msg1832678#msg1832678, 4#msg1832714 date=1377724411
I got the 'sent to Cov' reference. Problem arose when I assumed Dawn did too. What I didn't get is why Tom might think Dawn's sent him there.
She asked me a question on the 22nd, I answered it, but I felt like it was not really the reply she was hoping for. After that, I didn't hear anything else from her for days.
I thought I had upset the silly mare.
I tend to offend people without meaning to, I can't imagine why.....
Ahhhhhhhhhh, NOW I get it! I appreciated the reply muchly, honest.
Yeah, your answer sucked...because it meant working harder on their training and I just wasn't sure if it was possible to teach them.
Didn't want to report back until we were at wits end or had good news, but we've been working a great deal on it since and as it happens, they're getting better. Long way to go yet, but they're MUCH better than even a couple of weeks ago and I'm starting to see light at the end of the recall tunnel.
Still think that woman is wrong for bringing an aggressive dog to what she knows is an established community dog club play time when she has no interest in working on socialising with her dogs.
That said, my time is better spent working with the boys than trying to fight the rights and wrongs with her.
I really do appreciate your help/advice. Even when it's a pain in the arse sometimes. xx
Just to labour the point where even further, everyone who has trouble with recall is guilty of calling their dog to see if it will come. That's fine, until the time that it doesn't. At that point, it learns two things. It doesn't have to,come, and you can't make it.
At the risk of sounding immodest, my dog always comes when I call her simply because she doesn't know not coming is an option.
We've a long way to go, but it was nice to spend a day at the beach where they actually listened to us. We spent a few hours on a patch of our own and just down the way from us was a man with his two small dogs. Every now and then the boys would look over at the other dogs who were playing and barking, we'd get their attention back on us and if need be, use a firm voice. I was delighted with the way they stayed put because there would've been no chance even a month ago. That said (and I really hope I'm wrong) they may have been more inclined to listen because we were in unfamiliar territory?
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Quote from: RED-DOG on August 29, 2013, 07:56:38 AM
I found this on my windscreen. I'm not absolutely sure, but it looks like I've been booked for a charity event. .
Can someone translate it please?
Click to see full-size image.
It's clearly a petition from one of your readers for 'moar red dog'
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Quote from: Laxie on August 29, 2013, 11:07:31 AM
We've a long way to go, but it was nice to spend a day at the beach where they actually listened to us. We spent a few hours on a patch of our own and just down the way from us was a man with his two small dogs. Every now and then the boys would look over at the other dogs who were playing and barking, we'd get their attention back on us and if need be, use a firm voice. I was delighted with the way they stayed put because there would've been no chance even a month ago. That said (and I really hope I'm wrong) they may have been more inclined to listen because we were in unfamiliar territory?
It's really difficult to convey the principles of teaching reliable recall, and I'm afraid I'm failing miserably Dawn. I'm going to keep trying until you tell me to piss off though.
In your post you say you were delighted when your dogs stayed put. You mean they had a choice?
If they had ignored you and run off to play with the other dogs, it would just confirm to them that they don't have to come back until it suits them.
During the training period, every time you give a command that you can't enforce, you risk taking a giant leap backwards.
Sorry.
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Quote from: RED-DOG on August 29, 2013, 03:24:23 PM
Quote from: Laxie on August 29, 2013, 11:07:31 AM
We've a long way to go, but it was nice to spend a day at the beach where they actually listened to us. We spent a few hours on a patch of our own and just down the way from us was a man with his two small dogs. Every now and then the boys would look over at the other dogs who were playing and barking, we'd get their attention back on us and if need be, use a firm voice. I was delighted with the way they stayed put because there would've been no chance even a month ago. That said (and I really hope I'm wrong) they may have been more inclined to listen because we were in unfamiliar territory?
It's really difficult to convey the principles of teaching reliable recall, and I'm afraid I'm failing miserably Dawn. I'm going to keep trying until you tell me to piss off though.
In your post you say you were delighted when your dogs stayed put. You mean they had a choice?
If they had ignored you and run off to play with the other dogs, it would just confirm to them that they don't have to come back until it suits them.
During the training period, every time you give a command that you can't enforce, you risk taking a giant leap backwards.
Sorry.
So do you mean using a long lead or an enclosed space for that training then Red? Or even one of those electric collars (banned in Wales but not the rest of UK).
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Long lead when necessary Rod, but don't just tow the dog back to you when he ignores your call, instead use it to correct him, give it a jerk when he's moving away, and switch immediately to praise when he's coming back.
By far the best thing is to only call him when you KNOW he will COME, i.e. when his dinner is ready, when you're about to go out for a walk, or, (and this one is a doozy) when he's already coming to you anyway.
The worst possible time to call your dog during the training period is when he's distracted by something else or heading away from you. Which is exactly the time when most people do it.
Go out on to any common and you will hear people calling their dog's name over and over. What? I Do they think he didn't hear them the first time?
All they are doing is reassuring him that daddy/mummy is still nearby and teaching him that it's ok not to come when he's called.
Don't ever call your dog in training when it's obvious he doesn't want to come, instead, only call him when he does want to come. Aim for a 100% success rate.
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This bloke could do with a little help Tom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmpONxJ7JSw
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Quote from: bookiebasher on August 29, 2013, 04:58:55 PM
This bloke could do with a little help Tom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmpONxJ7JSw
Lol. It's one of my favourite clips.
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