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November 27, 2013, 10:32:15 AM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 27, 2013, 10:26:44 AM
This question has been occupying me for a while.
Why do atheists try to avoid death?
Because he's such bad company?
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Cos they got no where to go
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Quote from: atdc21 on November 27, 2013, 10:52:48 AM
Cos they got no where to go
Would have thought that was pretty obvious
The whole point of an afterlife is to give people hope - particularly when you're a religious leader trying to get people to die for the cause; if there's no afterlife it's a lot harder to convince people to sacrifice theirs
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Quote from: Jon MW on November 27, 2013, 11:15:45 AM
Quote from: atdc21 on November 27, 2013, 10:52:48 AM
Cos they got no where to go
Would have thought that was pretty obvious
The whole point of an afterlife is to give people hope - particularly when you're a religious leader trying to get people to die for the cause; if there's no afterlife it's a lot harder to convince people to sacrifice theirs
But why care about not existing when you won't know that you don't exist?
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November 27, 2013, 12:15:15 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 27, 2013, 11:39:22 AM
Quote from: Jon MW on November 27, 2013, 11:15:45 AM
Quote from: atdc21 on November 27, 2013, 10:52:48 AM
Cos they got no where to go
Would have thought that was pretty obvious
The whole point of an afterlife is to give people hope - particularly when you're a religious leader trying to get people to die for the cause; if there's no afterlife it's a lot harder to convince people to sacrifice theirs
But why care about not existing when you won't know that you don't exist?
I kind of like existing, not existing would suck. Admittedly it wouldn't concern me after I died, but why shouldn't it concern me now?
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Quote from: RED-DOG on November 27, 2013, 11:39:22 AM
Quote from: Jon MW on November 27, 2013, 11:15:45 AM
Quote from: atdc21 on November 27, 2013, 10:52:48 AM
Cos they got no where to go
Would have thought that was pretty obvious
The whole point of an afterlife is to give people hope - particularly when you're a religious leader trying to get people to die for the cause; if there's no afterlife it's a lot harder to convince people to sacrifice theirs
But why care about not existing when you won't know that you don't exist?
That's a reason not to worry about it after you don't exist - not before
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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November 27, 2013, 01:48:26 PM »
Quote from: Jon MW on November 27, 2013, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 27, 2013, 11:39:22 AM
Quote from: Jon MW on November 27, 2013, 11:15:45 AM
Quote from: atdc21 on November 27, 2013, 10:52:48 AM
Cos they got no where to go
Would have thought that was pretty obvious
The whole point of an afterlife is to give people hope - particularly when you're a religious leader trying to get people to die for the cause; if there's no afterlife it's a lot harder to convince people to sacrifice theirs
But why care about not existing when you won't know that you don't exist?
That's a reason not to worry about it after you don't exist - not before
You will always exist in space-time.
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Quote from: RED-DOG on November 27, 2013, 10:26:44 AM
This question has been occupying me for a while.
Why do atheists try to avoid death?
Because our time here is all we have so dying, although ultimatley unavoidable, is something to be put off as long as possible.
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Quote from: RED-DOG on November 27, 2013, 10:26:44 AM
This question has been occupying me for a while.
Why do atheists try to avoid death?
Surely the opposite question is more appropriate - if heaven is so great, why don't religious people kill themselves so they go to heaven today?
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Quote from: Mohican on November 27, 2013, 02:09:46 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 27, 2013, 10:26:44 AM
This question has been occupying me for a while.
Why do atheists try to avoid death?
Because our time here is all we have so dying, although ultimatley unavoidable, is something to be put off as long as possible.
That's the crux of the issue. The instant death happens, it doesn't matter, so why put it off?
The minute you have the slightest problem, why not just step in front of a train. Problem solved.
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Quote from: AndrewT on November 27, 2013, 02:46:27 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 27, 2013, 10:26:44 AM
This question has been occupying me for a while.
Why do atheists try to avoid death?
Surely the opposite question is more appropriate - if heaven is so great, why don't religious people kill themselves so they go to heaven today?
I think I'm tending towards Andrew's perspective more than yours Red
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Quote from: Jon MW on November 27, 2013, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: AndrewT on November 27, 2013, 02:46:27 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 27, 2013, 10:26:44 AM
This question has been occupying me for a while.
Why do atheists try to avoid death?
Surely the opposite question is more appropriate - if heaven is so great, why don't religious people kill themselves so they go to heaven today?
I think I'm tending towards Andrew's perspective more than yours Red
Lol. It's a fair question, but it isn't an answer.
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Quote from: RED-DOG on November 27, 2013, 03:03:04 PM
Quote from: Mohican on November 27, 2013, 02:09:46 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 27, 2013, 10:26:44 AM
This question has been occupying me for a while.
Why do atheists try to avoid death?
Because our time here is all we have so dying, although ultimatley unavoidable, is something to be put off as long as possible.
That's the crux of the issue. The instant death happens, it doesn't matter, so why put it off?
The minute you have the slightest problem, why not just step in front of a train. Problem solved.
That makes sense if an indeterminate length of time of 'bad' is worse than everlasting nothingness
It doesn't make sense when bad is still better than nothing
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Re: Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary
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November 27, 2013, 04:17:48 PM »
Quote from: Jon MW on November 27, 2013, 04:11:54 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 27, 2013, 03:03:04 PM
Quote from: Mohican on November 27, 2013, 02:09:46 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 27, 2013, 10:26:44 AM
This question has been occupying me for a while.
Why do atheists try to avoid death?
Because our time here is all we have so dying, although ultimatley unavoidable, is something to be put off as long as possible.
That's the crux of the issue. The instant death happens, it doesn't matter, so why put it off?
The minute you have the slightest problem, why not just step in front of a train. Problem solved.
That makes sense if an indeterminate length of time of 'bad' is worse than everlasting nothingness
It doesn't make sense when bad is still better than nothing
But surely the term "better than nothing" is only relevant while you're alive.
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Quote from: RED-DOG on November 27, 2013, 04:17:48 PM
Quote from: Jon MW on November 27, 2013, 04:11:54 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 27, 2013, 03:03:04 PM
Quote from: Mohican on November 27, 2013, 02:09:46 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 27, 2013, 10:26:44 AM
This question has been occupying me for a while.
Why do atheists try to avoid death?
Because our time here is all we have so dying, although ultimatley unavoidable, is something to be put off as long as possible.
That's the crux of the issue. The instant death happens, it doesn't matter, so why put it off?
The minute you have the slightest problem, why not just step in front of a train. Problem solved.
That makes sense if an indeterminate length of time of 'bad' is worse than everlasting nothingness
It doesn't make sense when bad is still better than nothing
But surely the term "better than nothing" is only relevant while you're alive.
And that is the state we currently find ourselves in...
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