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« on: November 03, 2005, 09:51:07 AM »

OK so you called with your in the small blind by tossing a 1000 chip into the pot without giving it much thought and the big blind checked.

15000 in the pot you are 6 handed and everyone has chips over the 120k mark except the button who has 50k.

and the flop is...............................................................................



 


How do you feel? What are you thinking?

Is this a good flop or a bad one?

Are you betting or checking?

If betting how much do you bet?
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2005, 10:01:21 AM »

and there's the reason why i folded preflop - now your stuck in a multiway pot with a drawing hand where even if you hit there's every possibility your drawing dead.
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2005, 10:05:56 AM »

I'm thinking a variety of things on this flop

-it could have been a lot worse
-but it's not the perfect flop I really needed
- i could get into a lot of toruble chasing a flush against a higher draw...proceed with caution
- but then again I do have a double belly buster straight flush draw
I'm against 5 opponents out of position, I can't bet because there is likely a decent K in someone's hand...he will bet for me (intending to chase away flush draws)

The flop is both good and bad

I'm checking, with a view to having a decsion to make if there is action before it gets back to me...I'm expecting someone to bet with a K and a call by flush/straight draws because of the likelihood of decent pot odds. If I bet, I'm building a pot with something extremely marginal (apart from hitting running miracle cards) and potentially committing to the hand further down the line.

Thinking a couple of steps ahead, my implied odds are enormous, but my reverse implied odds are growing

I'll wait and see.Check
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2005, 10:08:53 AM »

How do I feel and what am I thinking ?

A bit queasy and oh shit !

Is this a good or bad flop ?

Not sure

What would I do ?

Fire out 5k and look confident
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2005, 10:09:11 AM »

- but then again I do have a double belly buster straight flush draw


where? you need to hit runner runner for the straight flush (10h & or & )
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2005, 10:12:29 AM »

For me my first reaction is 'ooooh straight flush draw!'. I'm wary that someone has perhaps limped with a king, perhaps even king 9, so I check in the hopes of someone firing out a small bet where I have the odds to call.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2005, 10:13:14 AM »

- but then again I do have a double belly buster straight flush draw


where? you need to hit runner runner for the straight flush (10h & or & )

Thats what he meant by "double belly buster" - in other words, runner runner...
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2005, 10:15:00 AM »

i thought a double belly buster meant there are two possible cards to give him a straight on the next card (eg if you hold J-9 on a K-10-7 flop then both the Q and the 8 give you the straight)
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2005, 10:17:08 AM »

i thought a double belly buster meant there are two possible cards to give him a straight on the next card (eg if you hold J-9 on a K-10-7 flop then both the Q and the 8 give you the straight)

i need runner runner for the straight flush...


whatever it's called, i don't mind, but I've got a small chance of hitting it

Matt...leave me alone!  Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2005, 10:18:17 AM »

i thought a double belly buster meant there are two possible cards to give him a straight on the next card (eg if you hold J-9 on a K-10-7 flop then both the Q and the 8 give you the straight)

Fair enough.... this would be a variation on the theme Cheesy, the and the would be required, or a and a
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2005, 10:20:07 AM »

the & combination does not give you a straight flush
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2005, 10:22:55 AM »

the chance of you hitting your straight flush is about just over 400 to 1 (provided the and 10h are still live), i dont think at any point in this hand are you going to be offered those kind of pot odds, implied or otherwise.

If i were in this hand i would just check and see what happened with the rest of the table
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2005, 10:23:00 AM »

the & combination does not give you a straight flush

No, but it makes me think i've hit it and therefore any bet I make is with the upmost confidence that I have the nuts and because I can be read like a book everyones going to fold and I will win with **** all!  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2005, 10:24:55 AM »

ok, we've got one person betting 5k and three checkers.....and are about to go round in circles on straight flushes!!


anyone else?
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2005, 10:25:17 AM »

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