Harry Demetriou
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« on: November 03, 2005, 09:51:07 AM » |
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OK so you called with your in the small blind by tossing a 1000 chip into the pot without giving it much thought and the big blind checked. 15000 in the pot you are 6 handed and everyone has chips over the 120k mark except the button who has 50k. and the flop is............................................................................... How do you feel? What are you thinking? Is this a good flop or a bad one? Are you betting or checking? If betting how much do you bet?
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matt674
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2005, 10:01:21 AM » |
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and there's the reason why i folded preflop - now your stuck in a multiway pot with a drawing hand where even if you hit there's every possibility your drawing dead.
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TightEnd
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2005, 10:05:56 AM » |
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I'm thinking a variety of things on this flop
-it could have been a lot worse -but it's not the perfect flop I really needed - i could get into a lot of toruble chasing a flush against a higher draw...proceed with caution - but then again I do have a double belly buster straight flush draw I'm against 5 opponents out of position, I can't bet because there is likely a decent K in someone's hand...he will bet for me (intending to chase away flush draws)
The flop is both good and bad
I'm checking, with a view to having a decsion to make if there is action before it gets back to me...I'm expecting someone to bet with a K and a call by flush/straight draws because of the likelihood of decent pot odds. If I bet, I'm building a pot with something extremely marginal (apart from hitting running miracle cards) and potentially committing to the hand further down the line.
Thinking a couple of steps ahead, my implied odds are enormous, but my reverse implied odds are growing
I'll wait and see.Check
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Karabiner
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2005, 10:08:53 AM » |
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How do I feel and what am I thinking ?
A bit queasy and oh shit !
Is this a good or bad flop ?
Not sure
What would I do ?
Fire out 5k and look confident
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matt674
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2005, 10:09:11 AM » |
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- but then again I do have a double belly buster straight flush draw
where? you need to hit runner runner for the straight flush (10h & or & )
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mikkyT
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2005, 10:12:29 AM » |
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For me my first reaction is 'ooooh straight flush draw!'. I'm wary that someone has perhaps limped with a king, perhaps even king 9, so I check in the hopes of someone firing out a small bet where I have the odds to call.
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mikkyT
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2005, 10:13:14 AM » |
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- but then again I do have a double belly buster straight flush draw
where? you need to hit runner runner for the straight flush (10h & or & ) Thats what he meant by "double belly buster" - in other words, runner runner...
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matt674
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2005, 10:15:00 AM » |
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i thought a double belly buster meant there are two possible cards to give him a straight on the next card (eg if you hold J-9 on a K-10-7 flop then both the Q and the 8 give you the straight)
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TightEnd
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2005, 10:17:08 AM » |
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i thought a double belly buster meant there are two possible cards to give him a straight on the next card (eg if you hold J-9 on a K-10-7 flop then both the Q and the 8 give you the straight)
i need runner runner for the straight flush... whatever it's called, i don't mind, but I've got a small chance of hitting it Matt...leave me alone!
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mikkyT
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2005, 10:18:17 AM » |
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i thought a double belly buster meant there are two possible cards to give him a straight on the next card (eg if you hold J-9 on a K-10-7 flop then both the Q and the 8 give you the straight)
Fair enough.... this would be a variation on the theme , the and the would be required, or a and a
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matt674
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2005, 10:20:07 AM » |
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the & combination does not give you a straight flush
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matt674
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2005, 10:22:55 AM » |
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the chance of you hitting your straight flush is about just over 400 to 1 (provided the and 10h are still live), i dont think at any point in this hand are you going to be offered those kind of pot odds, implied or otherwise. If i were in this hand i would just check and see what happened with the rest of the table
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2005, 10:23:00 AM » |
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the & combination does not give you a straight flush No, but it makes me think i've hit it and therefore any bet I make is with the upmost confidence that I have the nuts and because I can be read like a book everyones going to fold and I will win with **** all! :rolleyes:
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TightEnd
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2005, 10:24:55 AM » |
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ok, we've got one person betting 5k and three checkers.....and are about to go round in circles on straight flushes!!
anyone else?
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2005, 10:25:17 AM » |
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