Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading

[The_nun]

Simon

Payback is a really difficult issue for me. I am inclined to say that the smallest stakers should get there's first just to reduce the list! How many stakers are less than 200?

I know the guys in deep won't appreciate this sentiment, but blatch must be able to get a semi good paying job. Then if you get rid of the small stakers, then the guys who are in deep can come to some sort of arrangement. Just a thought.

An administration style payback for everyone would be the fair way, but I'm sure everyone would agree that getting back 20 quid a month is pointless

I came to my senses that it isn't a wind up thread, I am not involved although have wished many times in the past I was. But...... I do not think that that would be the best repay option. I think that possibly percentage of investment per payout would be better. My reasons being.... whether one has invested £10 or £10k it has the same monetary value ( wrong words), financial loss to that person as one, like we all say, should only gamble what they can afford to lose.

[vegaslover]

Just reading this threat is gut wrenching, must be unbearable for those who invested. I'm just glad my bank changed it's transfers policy and I just said, next time, instead of going in to get the transfer done.

from reading this thread it just seems that Neil is nothing but a grimming *****, and a very calculated one at that

[fivebetjam]

Reading between the lines grimmer was busto when set  up this staking thread and was using it as personal bankroll.

Text book living beyond means and an epic grim.

going on holiday, throwing wads of twenties at the roulette wheel and setting up a 2nd grim all whilst in a 70k hole, smacks of arrogance beyond belief.

someone should call the police as the 2nd grim is fraud .

[GreekStein]

I was going to try and act as mediator but after a long think on the long bus journey home from work I just can't do it. Whole thing has made me feel a sick that someone who was my friend as well as my staker could do this to me. Neil was supposed to be my friend.

Fuck knows how it's going to affect my relationship at home when I tell my dad as well as ruining my dream of going to Vegas in a few months that I'd worked hard on and off the table for a while to pay for.

I'm not going on a hate Neil campaign, a part of me wants to but I still feel a bit sorry for him and I will still be posing questions and trying to get answers from the thread.

[thetank]

There's not much to say in Blatch's favour.

It looks like he hasn't come clean here, he's just run out time and imagination. If it were possible to tell another lie or defraud another person to buy a little more breathing space then that's what he would be doing right now.

Will be surprised if arbboy is unbanned. Mods gave him plenty chance to have s say, and when tighty decided enough was enough, gave him about a dozen warnings and arbboy ignored them all. Felt like the banning was a last resort, and definately not  clique thing to protect Blatch.
Blatch being guilty of all sorts of things and arbboy being a massive dousche are seperate issues.  Creating duplicate account not going to help him, just a further example that he has no inntention of ever respecting the rules around here.

[byronkincaid]

I was going to try and act as mediator but after a long think on the long bus journey home from work I just can't do it. Whole thing has made me feel a sick that someone who was my friend as well as my staker could do this to me. Neil was supposed to be my friend.

Fuck knows how it's going to affect my relationship at home when I tell my dad as well as ruining my dream of going to Vegas in a few months that I'd worked hard on and off the table for a while to pay for.

I'm not going on a hate Neil campaign, a part of me wants to but I still feel a bit sorry for him and I will still be posing questions and trying to get answers from the thread.

where he get the money from to stake you?

[fivebetjam]

Grimmer has made fools of u all right up until today he was willing to take even more money.

ur never see a penny. it would take years to even dent the debt.

grimmer will sink beneath the surface like the snake he is and revert to playing on line and sports betting with peanuts, all the while fooling himself and prob others at some point he knows what he is doing.

fantasy life
fantasy life
paid for by u GG WP

[a.sparrow]

greekstein, do you know anything about the house blatch said he was hopefully completing on that i posted up on the previous page?  I'm guessing it was a lie but its a weird thing to make up, then again the whole situation is fked up.

[fivebetjam]

prob wendy house from toys r us ...50p secures...was last 50p in stake money

[GreekStein]

I was going to try and act as mediator but after a long think on the long bus journey home from work I just can't do it. Whole thing has made me feel a sick that someone who was my friend as well as my staker could do this to me. Neil was supposed to be my friend.

Fuck knows how it's going to affect my relationship at home when I tell my dad as well as ruining my dream of going to Vegas in a few months that I'd worked hard on and off the table for a while to pay for.

I'm not going on a hate Neil campaign, a part of me wants to but I still feel a bit sorry for him and I will still be posing questions and trying to get answers from the thread.

where he get the money from to stake you?

why are you asking me this?

[outragous76]

I think we all need to be realistic and realise he has told a lot of different lies to different people in the last few months

[Madone]

How can anyone feel sorry for a grimmer is a beyond me....they have no respect for anyone and themselves!

[kinboshi]

Sick, that's how I feel.

Was concerned something was wrong, but never expected the entire staking roll to have gone.

Having spoken to Neil over the past few weeks, I actually felt reassured that my worst fears wouldn't be realised.  However, they were merely more lies, as I now know.

I've lost more than beer money from this.  I've lost my roll for Vegas, so the trip I've been looking forward to for a year will be no more.  It's money I could afford to lose, but I'd have rather have lost it myself whilst in Vegas.

Of course the investment wasn't guaranteed, but I expected that if half of the pot had gone, Neil would have been a man enough to give people a chance to cut their losses. 

I considered Blatch a mate, and that's why it hurts more.  He was telling me about his mate Kev losing some of his and George's money and how upset he was about it.  When he was telling me this, he'd already started grimming me (and everyone else of course).

If people seriously think they're going to get their money back, then I think you're deluded.  £70K+ is a lot of money for someone to earn on top of earning enough to live on.

I'd suggest Neil gets some help with his gambling problem, stops playing poker, stops sports trading, stops playing roulette, and has a long and hard think about what he's done to his mates and others who trusted him to at least not lie to them, and of course not abuse the staking money they invested in good faith.

[GreekStein]

greekstein, do you know anything about the house blatch said he was hopefully completing on that i posted up on the previous page?  I'm guessing it was a lie but its a weird thing to make up, then again the whole situation is fked up.

No, about 6 months ago I was told by Neil that he was having to tie most of his cash and roll up in his new flat in Leicester, because as a trader he couldn't get a mortgage. This is why we never really questioned him when he was a little short on cash and would take a while to pay us back.

There are at least 5 members of his 'stable' who post on blonde that could probably confirm this.

[treefella]

 so all the monies been used to stake these 5 players ?