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« Reply #5460 on: November 29, 2011, 04:15:05 PM »

yeah ok, 4 handed you can flick it in pre and then defo raise flop, bet turn, call.

if the 5 was a bit prettier you can justify 3betting pre as well.
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« Reply #5461 on: November 29, 2011, 04:25:56 PM »

yeah ok, 4 handed you can flick it in pre and then defo raise flop, bet turn, call.

if the 5 was a bit prettier you can justify 3betting pre as well.

Nah, you can choose almost any card you like bar another Queen and I'm pretty much always flatting rather than 3b here
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« Reply #5462 on: November 29, 2011, 04:59:13 PM »


think you can even fold turn because there are 0 good rivers vs his range like you say. or maybe flat turn.


Is this a joke?

You know we've got the nuts right?

Admittedly it could become the non nuts but at the moment with my limited PLO knowledge I think folding would be a mistake.
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« Reply #5463 on: November 29, 2011, 04:59:41 PM »

yeah ok, 4 handed you can flick it in pre and then defo raise flop, bet turn, call.

if the 5 was a bit prettier you can justify 3betting pre as well.

Nah, you can choose almost any card you like bar another Queen and I'm pretty much always flatting rather than 3b here

4 handed? also I assume that stato and alex have history and dynamic as well. I'm prolly 3betting anything that's a 9upwards
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« Reply #5464 on: November 29, 2011, 05:01:45 PM »


think you can even fold turn because there are 0 good rivers vs his range like you say. or maybe flat turn.


Is this a joke?

You know we've got the nuts right?

Admittedly it could become the non nuts but at the moment with my limited PLO knowledge I think folding would be a mistake.

i don't think that folding would be particularly horrible because against any hand that he bets three streets with, we don't have the nuts on like 80% of rivers.

folding is prolly a mistake, but not a huge one (also, this is when I thought we were 9 handed, 4 handed ofc you can't fold the turn and must just get it in)
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« Reply #5465 on: November 29, 2011, 05:04:22 PM »

cant think of many ahnds he shoves turn with
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« Reply #5466 on: November 29, 2011, 05:08:48 PM »

cant think of many ahnds he shoves turn with
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there's a few. AKQJhh 789xhh etc etc
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« Reply #5467 on: November 29, 2011, 05:44:26 PM »

Lol. Just lol 4 handed playing stato
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« Reply #5468 on: November 29, 2011, 05:47:59 PM »

The game last night was awesome. We played £1/1 ROE.

One round of Holdem based games, Irish, Pineapple, Texas (all No Limit)

One round of 4/5/6 PLO

Pure sickness. 5 card no limit irish was incred!
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« Reply #5469 on: November 29, 2011, 05:59:03 PM »

The game last night was awesome. We played £1/1 ROE.

One round of Holdem based games, Irish, Pineapple, Texas (all No Limit)

One round of 4/5/6 PLO

Pure sickness. 5 card no limit irish was incred!

Irish = Pineapple, no?
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« Reply #5470 on: November 29, 2011, 05:59:48 PM »

The game last night was awesome. We played £1/1 ROE.

One round of Holdem based games, Irish, Pineapple, Texas (all No Limit)

One round of 4/5/6 PLO

Pure sickness. 5 card no limit irish was incred!

Irish = Pineapple, no?

Pineapple you discard preflop, irish after the flop.
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« Reply #5471 on: November 29, 2011, 07:12:40 PM »

The game last night was awesome. We played £1/1 ROE.

One round of Holdem based games, Irish, Pineapple, Texas (all No Limit)

One round of 4/5/6 PLO

Pure sickness. 5 card no limit irish was incred!

Irish = Pineapple, no?

Pineapple you discard preflop, irish after the flop.

Irish = crazy pineapple
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« Reply #5472 on: November 29, 2011, 07:29:20 PM »


think you can even fold turn because there are 0 good rivers vs his range like you say. or maybe flat turn.


Is this a joke?

You know we've got the nuts right?

Admittedly it could become the non nuts but at the moment with my limited PLO knowledge I think folding would be a mistake.

i don't think that folding would be particularly horrible because against any hand that he bets three streets with, we don't have the nuts on like 80% of rivers.

folding is prolly a mistake, but not a huge one (also, this is when I thought we were 9 handed, 4 handed ofc you can't fold the turn and must just get it in)

You could say that for pretty much any PLO hand though to be fair.

Assume oppo has the absolute killer wrap 789Q.

He's still only got 20 outs which is less than half the deck. Add the hearts if you like being pessimistic gives him another 3 which makes us slightly less than 50 50.

I may or may not have worked this out correctly but it's somewhere there or there abouts.

Even 9 handed folding the turn would be pretty terrible.

Waiting til the river to get it in is pretty bad as you are then hardly ever going to have the nuts and when the board pairs you probably don't get paid.

There's plenty in there on the turn so same as Cos I'd be hitting the pot button pretty quick.

Would play differently deeper but by potting the turn we can't really go wrong.

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« Reply #5473 on: November 29, 2011, 07:34:00 PM »

Irish is a terrible poker game.

The worst part of Omaha is that everyone is (should be) scared of whatever the nuts is on the flop. The best part is that it is possible to have a massive draw against the flopped nuts. This leads to lots of action.

The worst part of hold'em is that no-one ever has a really massive draw (excepting open-ended straight flush draws, but these are still mere pipple compared to big draws in omaha). The best part is that no-one ever has anything so there is a ton of bluffing/thin value betting possible. This leads to lots of action.

Irish removes the best part of each game and leaves the worst part. e.g Everyone should be scared of whatever the nuts is on the flop since all players start with lots of cards; yet no-one can ever have a big wrap plus flush draw against the nuts since they have to throw most of it away before the turn.

It should really be an actionless game because of this. The fact that it sometimes isn't is more to do with the novelty aspect amongst players who don't play it much.

As regards the PLO hand... folding the nuts is NOT a good idea here. There are times in PLO when it is correct to fold the current nuts, but this is not close to being one of them. Also, raise the flop, don't trap... this is not no limit hold'em!
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« Reply #5474 on: November 29, 2011, 07:51:12 PM »

' There are times in PLO when it is correct to fold the current nuts, but this is not close to being one of them. Also, raise the flop, don't trap... this is not no limit hold'em! '

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