Manchester United, that didn't last long. Seven up

[Jon MW]

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I'll try to be a little less aggressive sounding, but come on it's a football discussion, they're kinda aggressive by nature no?...

There's nothing naturally aggressive about talking about football, just as there's nothing naturally aggressive about talking about rugby, or golf, or snooker or any other game or sport. Just because so many football fans make it aggressive - doesn't make it natural.

[jackinbeat]

Baron and Jon, I hear and understand what you are both saying, but you're mistaking aggression for mindless violence. Football always has been tribal, tribal rituals can be aggressive sounding, banging drums, etc, like the all blacks and their haka, it might seem aggressive to some, but at heart it's just a display of manliness, and the aggression doesn't necessarily develop to violence.

Baron, ok, I wasn't getting personal as such, just commenting on the fact that football teams need local football fans to support their local teams. Being a United fan, I have some good friends from Liverpool who I enjoy some great football discussions with, and we all sigh at fans from out of town, sorry if you think it's personal, but it's not.

[77dave]

Baron and Jon, I hear and understand what you are both saying, but you're mistaking aggression for mindless violence. Football always has been tribal, tribal rituals can be aggressive sounding, banging drums, etc, like the all blacks and their haka, it might seem aggressive to some, but at heart it's just a display of manliness, and the aggression doesn't necessarily develop to violence.

Baron, ok, I wasn't getting personal as such, just commenting on the fact that football teams need local football fans to support their local teams. Being a United fan, I have some good friends from Liverpool who I enjoy some great football discussions with, and we all sigh at fans from out of town, sorry if you think it's personal, but it's not.

Do you know where Baron is from?

[jackinbeat]

Baron and Jon, I hear and understand what you are both saying, but you're mistaking aggression for mindless violence. Football always has been tribal, tribal rituals can be aggressive sounding, banging drums, etc, like the all blacks and their haka, it might seem aggressive to some, but at heart it's just a display of manliness, and the aggression doesn't necessarily develop to violence.

Baron, ok, I wasn't getting personal as such, just commenting on the fact that football teams need local football fans to support their local teams. Being a United fan, I have some good friends from Liverpool who I enjoy some great football discussions with, and we all sigh at fans from out of town, sorry if you think it's personal, but it's not.

Do you know where Baron is from?

Milton Keynes unless his profile is wrong, i see the 52off on your posts, gutshot old boy by any chance?

[smashedagain]

9 points clear in Feb and Mankini already conceding that City will need to win every game. Still wont be enough will it ?

[jackinbeat]

9 points clear in Feb and Mankini already conceding that City will need to win every game. Still wont be enough will it ?

He'll never out mind game Fergie, way too early to start thinking this way, give it a month, maybe we'll start playing some half decent football by then. 

[George2Loose]

He out minded him last year

[sweet potata!]

He out minded him last year

Exactly

[david3103]

He out minded him last year

Exactly

debatable

[jackinbeat]

He out minded him last year

Really, last year the mind games didn't really factor imho, although SAF is not as sharp as he once was. Liked his one hand on the trophy bit last week though.

[jackinbeat]

He out minded him last year

Exactly

debatable

Would be good to debate, sometimes there's a lot a bold statements here without any facts or even thoughts to back them up, realise i'm guilty of that too, well occasionally.

[George2Loose]

Mancini was saying we were favourites even going into the last game. Think it took a lot of pressure off city

[LeKnave]

Mancini was saying we were favourites even going into the last game. Think it took a lot of pressure off city

lol gimme a break mate

[George2Loose]

Mancini was saying we were favourites even going into the last game. Think it took a lot of pressure off city

lol gimme a break mate

Fergie has been the master when it comes to mind games. Can't dismiss the same when another manager finds a way to motivate his side.

In the grand scheme of things they probably don't have a huge impact but to ignore the impact would be wrong IMO.

Think united will clinch it now- probably gonna be a twist somewhere down the line tho

[jackinbeat]

Mancini was saying we were favourites even going into the last game. Think it took a lot of pressure off city

Nothing to do with QPR hearing they were safe, and just deciding to stop playing then. You a United fan George?