Manchester United, that didn't last long. Seven up

[booder]

there isn't much creativity in that side considering all the money that's been spent.

You could say the same about Liverpool Keith.

[marcro]

Tikay, you asked why Martial wouldn't play against Liverpool.

I'm more inclined to ask why he would. He's 19, has only played a comparatively small number of games in a very different league. Would you throw him into a game of the stature of this when he's only had a few days to train with his new colleagues?

I'd expect to see the stronger players selected for this.

Something like...

De Gea
Darmian, Smalling, Blind, Shaw
Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger
Mata, Herrera, Fellaini/Rooney
Rooney/Depay

Think Carrick plays instead of one of the Sch's if he has recovered from the knock that kept him out of the England squad.

Me? I'd play him, yes. They paid an arm & a leg for him, best thing since sliced bread, & even with my rudimentary knowledge of football, Man U are desperately in need of someone who can score goals, to assist Rooney & Co.

When Malcolm Macdonald signed for Newcastle he was just 20 or 21 as I recall, & scored a hat trick on his very first game - against, spookily, Liverpool. 

Really, considering what they paid, I'd want him to be in the team from the get go. At that price, he's not supposed to be a work in progress, surely?

Agreed.  It does not make any sense to pay that kind of money and stick him in the reserves or on the bench.  I don't think LVG is thrilled about having him but then not many are thrilled with the job LVG is doing.

[david3103]

Tikay, you asked why Martial wouldn't play against Liverpool.

I'm more inclined to ask why he would. He's 19, has only played a comparatively small number of games in a very different league. Would you throw him into a game of the stature of this when he's only had a few days to train with his new colleagues?

I'd expect to see the stronger players selected for this.

Something like...

De Gea
Darmian, Smalling, Blind, Shaw
Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger
Mata, Herrera, Fellaini/Rooney
Rooney/Depay

Think Carrick plays instead of one of the Sch's if he has recovered from the knock that kept him out of the England squad.

You can see why United fans are unhappy.

With the notable exception of Mata, there isn't much creativity in that side considering all the money that's been spent.

Quite. But in truth we haven't been that creative for quite a while now.

[BorntoBubble]

We have paid an arm an a leg because we are desperate and he is a young talent.

Not that he is the complete package now

[TightEnd]

"I'm delighted to be starting this new chapter in my United career," said De Gea. Read more: http://bit.ly/1VRoS97

4 year contract, option of 5th

[buzzharvey22]

Probably cost Man UTD £3m in extra wages to make sure they get £28m at the end of the season. Fairly clever business.

[david3103]

Probably cost Man UTD £3m in extra wages to make sure they get £28m at the end of the season. Fairly clever business.

Hope for more than just a season, or for more than £28MM.

[tikay]

What did you guys think of the short cameo by Martial?

Can't read too much into 20 minutes, & a goal born of youthful exuberance, but when he scored, it suddenly struck me that very few players try to take a man on these days, especially in the box, it's all tip-tap passes, & it was so good to see.

Anyway, I suspect you may have a live one there, & have a few years fun & buzz ahead.

He seemed like a breath of fresh air.

With Chelsea all over the shop, & Liverpool, to my eye, looking really woeful (where was the spirit, the fight we used to associate with them?), there's more room at the top now.   

[BorntoBubble]

The lack of players running at people is so sad.

Di Maria did it in the first few games then nothing.

Depay has one move, cutting inside and teams have worked this out already.

Young runs at people and made a real difference.

Martial early days but nice to see a bit of pace and movement and players running with the ball.

[david3103]

The lack of players running at people is so sad.

Di Maria did it in the first few games then nothing.

Depay has one move, cutting inside and teams have worked this out already.

Young runs at people and made a real difference.

Martial early days but nice to see a bit of pace and movement and players running with the ball.

I'd like to see the wide players being involved quicker, get them running onto the ball more and delivering balls into the box faster. Obviously to go with that we need to get more than just a lone striker into the areas to capitalise on the crosses or knockdowns.

Martial took his chance well and although he didn't do much else it was an encouraging start.

[BorntoBubble]

He was making lots of runs off the balls and looked sharp, but thats not hard considering he was replacing fellani in that role, my gran would look fast after him.

[Ironside]

sorry watching the aberdeen match just seen upddates on bbc 10 minute delay for an injury to shaw

i hope he is ok and its nothing serious i really rate him as a player

[Ironside]

ok facebook has gone mad now

speedy recovery luke shaw it sounds like it could be a bad one

[rinswun]

There's a nasty pic doing the rounds which I won't post. Safe to say he's broken his leg (potentially dislocated ankle too). Sad for him and for England this summer.

[TightEnd]

looked terrible

hopefully early chatter that it could be a career ender is misplaced.