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« Reply #2535 on: May 23, 2016, 09:51:12 PM » |
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Lukaku isn't top grade or consistent enough. Agree partly tho because he would be ideal to deputise for Costa.
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« Reply #2536 on: May 23, 2016, 09:55:04 PM » |
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He' s arguably the best manager in the world so him being at the biggest clubs with the biggest wage bills is hardly a surprise
Why is he? Expand please. You don't think it is possible that he is "arguably the best manager in the world" I don't have a list but he has had success of some degree at every club he has managed And a huge wage bill is not a guarantee of success as many mangers have proved I think managing the highest profile players must have its own distinct issues and it could be argued that managing poorer players would be easier,ie. More room for improvement ,less egos etc.... |
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« Reply #2537 on: May 23, 2016, 09:55:48 PM » |
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Lukaku isn't top grade or consistent enough. Agree partly tho because he would be ideal to deputise for Costa.
lolzzzzzzzzzzzzz rumoured to be on the block for circa £60m this summer. Average service at Everton and scores for fun in a shit team. He would have started every game for Chelski last season without a shadow of doubt. Yep would deffo have him ahead of Costa all day long. Will score (even) more in the right team with better players behind him. |
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« Reply #2538 on: May 23, 2016, 09:57:56 PM » |
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He' s arguably the best manager in the world so him being at the biggest clubs with the biggest wage bills is hardly a surprise
Why is he? Expand please. You don't think it is possible that he is "arguably the best manager in the world" I don't have a list but he has had success of some degree at every club he has managed And a huge wage bill is not a guarantee of success as many mangers have proved I think managing the highest profile players must have its own distinct issues and it could be argued that managing poorer players would be easier,ie. More room for improvement ,less egos etc.... No manager in that level of praise with a wage bill he had last year would have had struggled the way he did. He doesn't over achieve generally with the money he spends. The years he is 'successful' he does pretty much what he should with the insane amount of cash he spends. The years he doesn't he looks bang average to me. Truely great managers develop players and give youth a chance as well not just rely on the chequebook year after year. Correlation between wage bill and success is massively strong generally. |
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« Reply #2539 on: May 23, 2016, 10:02:41 PM » |
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So you can't compare other managers with a high wage bill because they don't get as much praise???!
Do you not think attracting the top(highest paid) players to your club is a management skill?
Or do all players just take the highest wage offer?
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« Reply #2540 on: May 23, 2016, 10:03:26 PM » |
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BTW no one is offering or buying Lukaku for £65mill
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« Reply #2541 on: May 23, 2016, 10:04:51 PM » |
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So you can't compare other managers with a high wage bill because they don't get as much praise???!
Do you not think attracting the top(highest paid) players to your club is a management skill?
Or do all players just take the highest wage offer?
The two biggest factors in signing a player in most cases nowadays imo are the ability to offer champions league football and the level of salary/contract. The gaffer is way down the list of most players imo. You think Sterling signed for City for £180k a week or the gaffer who is no longer there? Do me a favour. |
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« Reply #2542 on: May 23, 2016, 10:05:13 PM » |
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He' s arguably the best manager in the world so him being at the biggest clubs with the biggest wage bills is hardly a surprise
Why is he? Expand please. You don't think it is possible that he is "arguably the best manager in the world" I don't have a list but he has had success of some degree at every club he has managed And a huge wage bill is not a guarantee of success as many mangers have proved I think managing the highest profile players must have its own distinct issues and it could be argued that managing poorer players would be easier,ie. More room for improvement ,less egos etc.... No manager in that level of praise with a wage bill he had last year would have had struggled the way he did. He doesn't over achieve generally with the money he spends. The years he is 'successful' he does pretty much what he should with the insane amount of cash he spends. The years he doesn't he looks bang average to me. Truely great managers develop players and give youth a chance as well not just rely on the chequebook year after year. Correlation between wage bill and success is massively strong generally. This is all well and good but someone saying he is arguably the best coach in the world isn't a stretch. If it's so easy why does the manager matter at all? Just give me a massive wage bill and pay me 10 times less. Also your splitting hairs with the transfer market argument. Again he has a pretty decent record of signing players and selling those for a pretty decent wedge |
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« Reply #2543 on: May 23, 2016, 10:05:47 PM » |
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BTW no one is offering or buying Lukaku for £65mill
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« Reply #2544 on: May 23, 2016, 10:06:44 PM » |
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Where has £65m come from?
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« Reply #2545 on: May 23, 2016, 10:08:16 PM » |
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Where has £65m come from?
Circa 60 guess he's taken that as 65 |
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« Reply #2546 on: May 23, 2016, 10:09:09 PM » |
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I think if I'm one of the top players in the world with a choice of clubs how the manager impresses me or lays out his plans for me would definitely play some part in my decision
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« Reply #2547 on: May 23, 2016, 10:10:20 PM » |
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The rumour I saw was £65 mil I just guessed you had mis read  |
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« Reply #2548 on: May 23, 2016, 10:10:54 PM » |
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So you can't compare other managers with a high wage bill because they don't get as much praise???!
Do you not think attracting the top(highest paid) players to your club is a management skill?
Or do all players just take the highest wage offer?
The two biggest factors in signing a player in most cases nowadays imo are the ability to offer champions league football and the level of salary/contract. The gaffer is way down the list of most players imo. You think Sterling signed for City for £180k a week or the gaffer who is no longer there? Do me a favour. Your plucking out singular examples to prove your point. Jose and United will still be able to attract a decent calibre of player albeit it'll be tougher next year without CL footie. Be interesting to see if we can get Zlatan despite not being in the CL |
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« Reply #2549 on: May 23, 2016, 10:12:52 PM » |
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Maybe Sterling knew his limitations and thought it best to take the highest offer  |
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