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Topic: Manchester United, that didn't last long. Seven up (Read 496323 times)
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Re: Manchester United FC
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Quote from: Tal on December 05, 2015, 12:29:25 AM
Quote from: George2Loose on December 05, 2015, 12:22:20 AM
Not really. Fans and supporters as a general population are dumb
Sure, but this is a poker forum, where people are supposed to understand this stuff. Not the blokes on Soccer Saturday declaring a manager in trouble after two losses and mocking Brentford for using numbers to run a football club.
"Not for me, Jeff"
I think modern society prefers to be negative rather than positive, criticise rather than praise, it's easier.
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Re: Manchester United FC
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Quote from: Tal on December 05, 2015, 12:13:06 AM
Quote from: George2Loose on December 05, 2015, 12:08:17 AM
Lots of criticism and negativity for LVG. Would we prefer a more entertaining team in 8th place?
Incredible, isn't it?
Not really.
United fans want to be entertained, that's what they are accustomed to and that it what they expect.
Of the teams in the bottom half, I bet the fans of Bournemouth are enjoying this season the most.
their team play attacking, entertaining football and there are lots of goals in their games.
I'd rather support them than almost all of the other teams in the Premier League.
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December 05, 2015, 12:50:04 AM »
If the richest team in the country, packed with players who cost 8 figures and are earning 7 figures annually, can't entertain on Saturday afternoon, it is a pretty sad state of affairs isn't it?
Teams I enjoy watching this season:
Leicester
Bournemouth
Liverpool
Arsenal
Man City
Chelsea (for different reasons!)
That's it.
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Football isn't a short term game. The job LVG is doing to steady the ship is being underplayed hugely. Maybe that's because of Fergie and our history, maybe because Klopp has had such a huge impact at Liverpool or maybe because LVG is a very tough character to like but the bottom line he is delivering. If in the short term that means we are boring whilst we lock up a top 4 spot so be it.
I'd love to see a little more ambition in cup games- that's the only "criticism" I'd have if any
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December 05, 2015, 12:52:08 AM »
Quote from: The Camel on December 05, 2015, 12:50:04 AM
If the richest team in the country, packed with players who cost 8 figures and are earning 7 figures annually, can't entertain on Saturday afternoon, it is a pretty sad state of affairs isn't it?
Teams I enjoy watching this season:
Leicester
Bournemouth
Liverpool
Arsenal
Man City
Chelsea (for different reasons!)
That's it.
Liverpool are a pretty late addition tho?
EDIT! Didn't see Man City there!
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December 05, 2015, 12:54:13 AM »
Quote from: George2Loose on December 05, 2015, 12:52:08 AM
Quote from: The Camel on December 05, 2015, 12:50:04 AM
If the richest team in the country, packed with players who cost 8 figures and are earning 7 figures annually, can't entertain on Saturday afternoon, it is a pretty sad state of affairs isn't it?
Teams I enjoy watching this season:
Leicester
Bournemouth
Liverpool
Arsenal
Man City
Chelsea (for different reasons!)
That's it.
Liverpool are a pretty late addition tho?
EDIT! Didn't see Man City there!
Yep, Liverpool wouldn't have made this list a month ago.
I only want to watch City when my man Silva is playing.
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If City hadn't been without Silva, Aguero and Kompany I think they'd be running away with it.
More madness too- how the fuck is Gary Monk under pressure at Swansea?
And Clarke turns down Fulham, two weeks later he's sacked.
I despair sometimes.
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Quote from: tikay on December 05, 2015, 12:47:10 AM
Quote from: Tal on December 05, 2015, 12:29:25 AM
Quote from: George2Loose on December 05, 2015, 12:22:20 AM
Not really. Fans and supporters as a general population are dumb
Sure, but this is a poker forum, where people are supposed to understand this stuff. Not the blokes on Soccer Saturday declaring a manager in trouble after two losses and mocking Brentford for using numbers to run a football club.
"Not for me, Jeff"
I think modern society prefers to be negative rather than positive, criticise rather than praise, it's easier.
Horse manure
So many more happy positive people today than 30-40 years ago
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Re: Manchester United FC
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December 05, 2015, 01:38:53 AM »
Quote from: The Camel on December 05, 2015, 12:47:38 AM
Quote from: Tal on December 05, 2015, 12:13:06 AM
Quote from: George2Loose on December 05, 2015, 12:08:17 AM
Lots of criticism and negativity for LVG. Would we prefer a more entertaining team in 8th place?
Incredible, isn't it?
Not really.
United fans want to be entertained, that's what they are accustomed to and that it what they expect.
Of the teams in the bottom half, I bet the fans of Bournemouth are enjoying this season the most.
their team play attacking, entertaining football and there are lots of goals in their games.
I'd rather support them than almost all of the other teams in the Premier League.
No they want to be entertained and win. If it's one or the other ask Moyes what the fans want more.
Bournemouth have scored 3 less than United and conceded 3x as many. Ask them how entertaining the Championship is next season.
Neither team has the players to play great attacking, winning football. It's one or the other, and it seems only one of them understands this.
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Re: Manchester United FC
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December 05, 2015, 02:03:52 AM »
Quote from: POWWWWWWWW on December 05, 2015, 01:38:53 AM
Quote from: The Camel on December 05, 2015, 12:47:38 AM
Quote from: Tal on December 05, 2015, 12:13:06 AM
Quote from: George2Loose on December 05, 2015, 12:08:17 AM
Lots of criticism and negativity for LVG. Would we prefer a more entertaining team in 8th place?
Incredible, isn't it?
Not really.
United fans want to be entertained, that's what they are accustomed to and that it what they expect.
Of the teams in the bottom half, I bet the fans of Bournemouth are enjoying this season the most.
their team play attacking, entertaining football and there are lots of goals in their games.
I'd rather support them than almost all of the other teams in the Premier League.
No they want to be entertained and win. If it's one or the other ask Moyes what the fans want more.
Bournemouth have scored 3 less than United and conceded 3x as many. Ask them how entertaining the Championship is next season.
Neither team has the players to play great attacking, winning football
. It's one or the other, and it seems only one of them understands this.
That's bananas.
To add to England's captain and record goalscorer, United have recently purchased:
Depay £25m
Martial £35m
Herrera £27m
Fellani £27.5m
Mata £37.1m
Add to that the money spent on defensive midfielders and the back line.
Bournemouth did spend £23m this summer...on eight players. The stat gets better: since the 92/93 season, Bournemouth have spent (gross) £31.5m on players in.
The fans of United should be able to expect results from elite players and an elite coach. They have no right to expect anything else, much as they would love to see a more free-flowing style of play.
I've spent season after season hearing nonsense from Spurs fans saying we should play "the Spurs way", which I have come to misinterpret as meaning
flatter to deceive
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Win, dominate and then worry about getting standing ovations afterwards.
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Re: Manchester United FC
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Quote from: George2Loose on December 05, 2015, 12:08:17 AM
Lots of criticism and negativity for LVG. Would we prefer a more entertaining team in 8th place?
Why would the more entertaining team be in 8th?
Would you prefer to win the title 1-0?
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December 05, 2015, 10:44:37 AM »
If u offered me the title LVG way I'd take it.
And it's clearly one way or the other at this moment in time. We were in disarray at the back last year. He has come and in and organised the team which is no mean feat.
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December 05, 2015, 06:26:51 PM »
Has anyone got a price for man Utd and Chelsea both not making the top 4?
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Re: Manchester United FC
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Quote from: 77dave on December 05, 2015, 06:26:51 PM
Has anyone got a price for man Utd and Chelsea both not making the top 4?
around 9/1?
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