"The Downswings of Property and Poker"

[Eso Kral]

Nice read as ever more please. What a hero doing DIY, driving all over for a game of poker, betting on random sports,back to the office with no sleep. How do you fit it all in? I feel come March we can say GG and WP Ritch.                           The Romanian group were very good players but they did take it a bit to seriously for me, I caught the one guy reading super system around the pool.. I called him pigeon he looked confused, he had the last lath finalling in the main event.   Eureka effect/ blonde moment  Herbie flag means Hendon Mob Flag... if this was facebook id click the ILIKE tab.

Cheers Foxy
Yeah Herbie Flag = Hendon Mob after Jason constantly made reference to peoples records.

Ps everyone took it more seriously than you as you were necking the heineken's faster than we could order them although I was vvvv impressed with the early morning run after a late session!

See you in January

[Eso Kral]

Just caught up the last few pages and I'm exhausted, where do you get the energy?

Really excellent diarage.

Cheers Ralph
I guess many late nights means you get used to driving around and burning the candle both ends plus staying fit helps as Petra tells me  "give energy to get energy"

Obv everything that she tells me is correct or at least that is what I let her think 

[Eso Kral]

DOING THE RIGHT THING

Sometimes in our Estate Agency game you do the right thing and it turns round and smacks you in the face and this week it happened to us and has now cost us a £6000 fee to the office 

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This house came on the market about 3 weeks ago for £450'000 and although it is a quieter time of year there are still some motivated viewers out there and after 5 viewings in the first week we were lucky to have 2 competing offers on the property at £440k and £445k respectively.
Client A is sold subject to contract through ourselves and ready to go at 440k
Client B is on the market with us and not sold but comes from a well off family who can help him proceed without selling but his offer at 445k is based upon a sale on his house which is £25k overpriced

After both offers were place the vendors after advice from us decided to accept client A's offer and the process starts, but 72 hours later client B has knocked on the door to see why they were not successful in being accepted to be told that they were not proceedable which they then told the vendor they could proceed by selling the property to his sister who didnt need to sell rendering their offer the better offer.

So naturally as we abide by the Estate Agency act we resubmitted the offer based on this info and told client A that a higher offer had now been made and he was no longer the chosen buyer but could obv raise his offer and we would resubmit it to the vendors, I also took the time to speak with all 3 parties including the vendors to go through the various scenario's of what if and if client A raised to £445 then we should ask both parties to submit "best and final" offers in writing by a deadline of Thursday 5pm.

Client A raised and we went to best and final and waited till 4pm before contacting both clients to be told by client A that - they had now offered on another property as were not prepared to offer  higher than 445k and 3 mins later an email (bottled the phone call) came in from client B saying he was withdrawing his offer due to not wanting to enter into a bartering situation that he felt we had caused and was not proceeding any further.

We tried to get client A to change his mind and even intimated that if he reduced his offer to the previously agreed figure of £440'000 then it may be looked on favourably so as of today I have informed the vendor that having had 2 buyers we now have no buyers due to handling things in the right way instead of telling them to stick with client A and trying to hide the other buyer away 

[Eso Kral]

After receiving a text from Dubai to say WTF with the chosen photo of the birthday boy (cant believe no-one else picked up on it) he informed me he liked T6 in the 9.24 Romford and to have a look at the race and let him know what I thought, which was to have £200 on for me at the best available price of 6/4 as it looked a good thing to lead and if it did would not be picked up and was against a a fast finisher who was vying for favouritism making the market.

So we had £200 on and later in the day decided this looked a really good thing so walked across the road to Ladbrokes and wagered another £200 at 6/4

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As he was out partying the only text he needed was to know it was 2 clear round the first bend and finished 3 1/2 clear meaning a good evening wa shad by all no doubt.

Today I dont rally fancy much but have invested £80 on btts matches with my favs for the weekend being
Burton v Accrington, Rotherham v Gillingham, Ipswich v Millwall, Port Vale v Chesterfield and Bury v Leton O being the cornerstones of my accas

also a cheeky 4 team draw acca for £20 with Villa, Forest, Crawley, Fleetwood

GL to all the PUNTERS out there this weekend!!

Oh and driving up after work to DTD for the £100 today as Petra and Max not back till tomoz so can swing out hoping to make 3 finals in a week of local comps!!

[pokerfan]

Ha, just read this after posting on birthday thread.

[Eso Kral]

Ha, just read this after posting on birthday thread.

Comma day on the footie today will give deets on Monday and now at DTD although donated 30% of my stack around the table so far.

[Eso Kral]

Nice read as ever more please. What a hero doing DIY, driving all over for a game of poker, betting on random sports,back to the office with no sleep. How do you fit it all in? I feel come March we can say GG and WP Ritch.                           The Romanian group were very good players but they did take it a bit to seriously for me, I caught the one guy reading super system around the pool.. I called him pigeon he looked confused, he had the last lath finalling in the main event.   Eureka effect/ blonde moment  Herbie flag means Hendon Mob Flag... if this was facebook id click the ILIKE tab.

Obv reading works Foxy as I have just seen he went onto win the ME in St.Maarten for 110k euro the week after we left St.Kitts

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=110229

[david3103]

Was he the guy sat to my left on Day 3?

No fold button?

[Eso Kral]

Was he the guy sat to my left on Day 3?

No fold button?

Just a thin I made day3 brag imo 

Think so he was fairly tall and skinny unlike the other Romanians who looked like rugby players

[david3103]

Was he the guy sat to my left on Day 3?

No fold button?

Just a thin I made day3 brag imo 

Think so he was fairly tall and skinny unlike the other Romanians who looked like rugby players

Every chance I get 

[blueace]

DOING THE RIGHT THING

Sometimes in our Estate Agency game you do the right thing and it turns round and smacks you in the face and this week it happened to us and has now cost us a £6000 fee to the office 

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3586/dsc0028qi.jpg[/img]]

Click to see full-size image.

This house came on the market about 3 weeks ago for £450'000 and although it is a quieter time of year there are still some motivated viewers out there and after 5 viewings in the first week we were lucky to have 2 competing offers on the property at £440k and £445k respectively.
Client A is sold subject to contract through ourselves and ready to go at 440k
Client B is on the market with us and not sold but comes from a well off family who can help him proceed without selling but his offer at 445k is based upon a sale on his house which is £25k overpriced

After both offers were place the vendors after advice from us decided to accept client A's offer and the process starts, but 72 hours later client B has knocked on the door to see why they were not successful in being accepted to be told that they were not proceedable which they then told the vendor they could proceed by selling the property to his sister who didnt need to sell rendering their offer the better offer.

So naturally as we abide by the Estate Agency act we resubmitted the offer based on this info and told client A that a higher offer had now been made and he was no longer the chosen buyer but could obv raise his offer and we would resubmit it to the vendors, I also took the time to speak with all 3 parties including the vendors to go through the various scenario's of what if and if client A raised to £445 then we should ask both parties to submit "best and final" offers in writing by a deadline of Thursday 5pm.

Client A raised and we went to best and final and waited till 4pm before contacting both clients to be told by client A that - they had now offered on another property as were not prepared to offer  higher than 445k and 3 mins later an email (bottled the phone call) came in from client B saying he was withdrawing his offer due to not wanting to enter into a bartering situation that he felt we had caused and was not proceeding any further.

We tried to get client A to change his mind and even intimated that if he reduced his offer to the previously agreed figure of £440'000 then it may be looked on favourably so as of today I have informed the vendor that having had 2 buyers we now have no buyers due to handling things in the right way instead of telling them to stick with client A and trying to hide the other buyer away 

Its dealing with this sort of shit and getting nothing out of it but bad feeling that the public dont understand.

[Eso Kral]

DOING THE RIGHT THING

Sometimes in our Estate Agency game you do the right thing and it turns round and smacks you in the face and this week it happened to us and has now cost us a £6000 fee to the office 

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3586/dsc0028qi.jpg[/img]]

Click to see full-size image.

This house came on the market about 3 weeks ago for £450'000 and although it is a quieter time of year there are still some motivated viewers out there and after 5 viewings in the first week we were lucky to have 2 competing offers on the property at £440k and £445k respectively.
Client A is sold subject to contract through ourselves and ready to go at 440k
Client B is on the market with us and not sold but comes from a well off family who can help him proceed without selling but his offer at 445k is based upon a sale on his house which is £25k overpriced

After both offers were place the vendors after advice from us decided to accept client A's offer and the process starts, but 72 hours later client B has knocked on the door to see why they were not successful in being accepted to be told that they were not proceedable which they then told the vendor they could proceed by selling the property to his sister who didnt need to sell rendering their offer the better offer.

So naturally as we abide by the Estate Agency act we resubmitted the offer based on this info and told client A that a higher offer had now been made and he was no longer the chosen buyer but could obv raise his offer and we would resubmit it to the vendors, I also took the time to speak with all 3 parties including the vendors to go through the various scenario's of what if and if client A raised to £445 then we should ask both parties to submit "best and final" offers in writing by a deadline of Thursday 5pm.

Client A raised and we went to best and final and waited till 4pm before contacting both clients to be told by client A that - they had now offered on another property as were not prepared to offer  higher than 445k and 3 mins later an email (bottled the phone call) came in from client B saying he was withdrawing his offer due to not wanting to enter into a bartering situation that he felt we had caused and was not proceeding any further.

We tried to get client A to change his mind and even intimated that if he reduced his offer to the previously agreed figure of £440'000 then it may be looked on favourably so as of today I have informed the vendor that having had 2 buyers we now have no buyers due to handling things in the right way instead of telling them to stick with client A and trying to hide the other buyer away 

Its dealing with this sort of shit and getting nothing out of it but bad feeling that the public dont understand.

I knew I would find some support from a former fellow agent 

[bobAlike]

Rich isn't this like the gazumping which was rife in the 80's/90's. It does seem to be out of order, not by you obv.
This reminded me of my father in law who was a top consultant radiologist for 30 years. He worked for the NHS at the same hospital for pretty much all of his career and also worked privately. About 10 years ago he was approached by a hospital which was opening a new specialised unit dealing with breast cancers and they asked him if he'd like to head it. They offered him a big increase to his annual salary and the promise of contributing another to his pension pot. He accepted and for openess his new employer asked him to let his existing employer what was going on.
He told his existing hospital and they immediately offered him more money to stay. He turned this down as he wasn't trying to get more money and that he had already accepted the new position.

The following day the new hospital withdrew their offer because the old hospital had called them to say my father in law was playing them off against each other. This off course was untrue. So with the new job out of the window he went back to his employer and told them unless they honour the counter offer they made he was handing his notice in and going to retire. They gave him the money but after 2 years he had had enough and retired taking himself off the medical register 6 months later because they kept hassling him to come back.

[Acidmouse]

Some estate agents are bottom of the food chain in terms of how they act. We had 4-5 well established agents trying to steal our business when we were moving. Very naughty, even shit talking the place we went with.

[Eso Kral]

Rich isn't this like the gazumping which was rife in the 80's/90's. It does seem to be out of order, not by you obv.
This reminded me of my father in law who was a top consultant radiologist for 30 years. He worked for the NHS at the same hospital for pretty much all of his career and also worked privately. About 10 years ago he was approached by a hospital which was opening a new specialised unit dealing with breast cancers and they asked him if he'd like to head it. They offered him a big increase to his annual salary and the promise of contributing another to his pension pot. He accepted and for openess his new employer asked him to let his existing employer what was going on.
He told his existing hospital and they immediately offered him more money to stay. He turned this down as he wasn't trying to get more money and that he had already accepted the new position.

The following day the new hospital withdrew their offer because the old hospital had called them to say my father in law was playing them off against each other. This off course was untrue. So with the new job out of the window he went back to his employer and told them unless they honour the counter offer they made he was handing his notice in and going to retire. They gave him the money but after 2 years he had had enough and retired taking himself off the medical register 6 months later because they kept hassling him to come back.

Wow great story, with employment I have always been a great believer that once you have decided to go then you should and never try to reneg with your current employer as if they felt you were worth it why didnt they give you that ££ in the first place plus if you say you are going then stay I always think the company feel they own you a little more as they "gave you a rise"  just my opinion obv.

Gazumping well yes it is close to it but the other chap changed his situation and re-inforced his offer so it's not quite the same as he didnt offer higher just to get the property his offer was that anyway it just sucks that we were more confident with buyer A but could not hide offer B and then you have to do the right thing...

Sounds like your father in law was well respected in that field.