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« Reply #102045 on: June 01, 2015, 02:54:42 PM »

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didn't confirm it on the thread in time, just launched an event and lots going on, but tikay was on at 7/4
He still got his account?
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« Reply #102046 on: June 01, 2015, 02:56:06 PM »

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didn't confirm it on the thread in time, just launched an event and lots going on, but tikay was on at 7/4
He still got his account?

I would be amazed if anyone got their account closed by having £50 ew or £100 ew on an even money shot.  Would be amazed if most lol traders would even see the bet and most would just assume it was a win only bet on their bet slip viewer.

Races like that are worth ruining an account for if you max it out on both the front two ew and arb them.  Probably nicking the best part of a grand in cash with no risk (a lot more if the bog goes massively for you like it did there) if you have max ew bets on a new 365 account in that race.  A new account would get bog as well.  Then the account gets closed obviously.  If you wait for a sexy enough race like that.
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« Reply #102047 on: June 01, 2015, 02:56:44 PM »

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didn't confirm it on the thread in time, just launched an event and lots going on, but tikay was on at 7/4
He still got his account?

well i doubt he will be checking his emails in san diego, so i expect i will find out when placing a bet soon enough........
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« Reply #102048 on: June 01, 2015, 03:05:03 PM »

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didn't confirm it on the thread in time, just launched an event and lots going on, but tikay was on at 7/4
He still got his account?

I would be amazed if anyone got their account closed by having £50 ew or £100 ew on an even money shot.  Would be amazed if most lol traders would even see the bet and most would just assume it was a win only bet on their bet slip viewer.

Races like that are worth ruining an account for if you max it out on both the front two ew and arb them.  Probably nicking the best part of a grand in cash with no risk (a lot more if the bog goes massively for you like it did there) if you have max ew bets on a new 365 account in that race.  A new account would get bog as well.  Then the account gets closed obviously.  If you wait for a sexy enough race like that.


Nice spot Arb.

Still don't buy into this account closed on the back of one bet like this. Sure, if you go mad on it and its your only bet for a while like it, then, maybe, but surely only fools do that?!

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« Reply #102049 on: June 01, 2015, 03:26:18 PM »

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didn't confirm it on the thread in time, just launched an event and lots going on, but tikay was on at 7/4
He still got his account?

I would be amazed if anyone got their account closed by having £50 ew or £100 ew on an even money shot.  Would be amazed if most lol traders would even see the bet and most would just assume it was a win only bet on their bet slip viewer.

Races like that are worth ruining an account for if you max it out on both the front two ew and arb them.  Probably nicking the best part of a grand in cash with no risk (a lot more if the bog goes massively for you like it did there) if you have max ew bets on a new 365 account in that race.  A new account would get bog as well.  Then the account gets closed obviously.  If you wait for a sexy enough race like that.


Nice spot Arb.

Still don't buy into this account closed on the back of one bet like this. Sure, if you go mad on it and its your only bet for a while like it, then, maybe, but surely only fools do that?!



Why take the chance though?  That race was a fairly classic dirty each way (2 short ones rather than one but meh), so it doesn't take much thinking for a bookie to mark that race.  Do they distinguish between Falsify and Point The Star?  I don't know. 

I wouldn't like to be thinking they are all loltraders, when computerising this kind of thing seems really easy to me.  And if I was setting something up, I'd be much happier targetting e/w punters in races like this than e/w punters in the big handicaps on Saturday.  I think the ratio of smart money to mug money ratio in the different type of races is going to be entirely different.   

Maybe I credit them with too much intelligence?  Given all the smart accounts that get closed/restricted from people who post here, then I wouldn't be so relaxed about it.
   
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« Reply #102050 on: June 01, 2015, 03:29:13 PM »

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didn't confirm it on the thread in time, just launched an event and lots going on, but tikay was on at 7/4
He still got his account?

I would be amazed if anyone got their account closed by having £50 ew or £100 ew on an even money shot.  Would be amazed if most lol traders would even see the bet and most would just assume it was a win only bet on their bet slip viewer.

Races like that are worth ruining an account for if you max it out on both the front two ew and arb them.  Probably nicking the best part of a grand in cash with no risk (a lot more if the bog goes massively for you like it did there) if you have max ew bets on a new 365 account in that race.  A new account would get bog as well.  Then the account gets closed obviously.  If you wait for a sexy enough race like that.


Nice spot Arb.

Still don't buy into this account closed on the back of one bet like this. Sure, if you go mad on it and its your only bet for a while like it, then, maybe, but surely only fools do that?!



Why take the chance though?  That race was a fairly classic dirty each way (2 short ones rather than one but meh), so it doesn't take much thinking for a bookie to mark that race.  Do they distinguish between Falsify and Point The Star?  I don't know. 

I wouldn't like to be thinking they are all loltraders, when computerising this kind of thing seems really easy to me.  And if I was setting something up, I'd be much happier targetting e/w punters in races like this than e/w punters in the big handicaps on Saturday.  I think the ratio of smart money to mug money ratio in the different type of races is going to be entirely different.   

Maybe I credit them with too much intelligence?  Given all the smart accounts that get closed/restricted from people who post here, then I wouldn't be so relaxed about it.
   

You do believe me for £100 ew bets on even money shots.
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« Reply #102051 on: June 01, 2015, 04:07:50 PM »

Don't we just wait for the Derby, hope for a few outsiders and 4 places?

I don't understand what you mean? Are you talking about the dog?


No he meant the proper Derby mate. Wink

This, sorry, quoting fail earlier.  Tighty was asking about the (horse) Derby earlier today.

15 runners in the Derby so think we are out of look.  The Coronation has 7 too.  Forget those ideas.
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« Reply #102052 on: June 01, 2015, 06:48:26 PM »

Getting ready to run for cover......

Surely southampton are too big at 33s.

Were definitely a surprise package this year and next year the following factors are in place.

Could get figured out. Certainly some evidence of this towards the end of this season.
European football
Some more names out of the door again.

Much bigger than the price this time last year and possibly value?

Now that Southampton have got the rigours of a Europa campaign, Sneiderlin is most likely off and the 33's that I quoted before is the worst price available, surely the 66s with ladies represents value

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« Reply #102053 on: June 01, 2015, 07:04:15 PM »

Getting ready to run for cover......

Surely southampton are too big at 33s.

Were definitely a surprise package this year and next year the following factors are in place.

Could get figured out. Certainly some evidence of this towards the end of this season.
European football
Some more names out of the door again.

Much bigger than the price this time last year and possibly value?

Now that Southampton have got the rigours of a Europa campaign, Sneiderlin is most likely off and the 33's that I quoted before is the worst price available, surely the 66s with ladies represents value

recc £15

I was looking at the 66/1 and the 100/1 everton to go down given how many 'big' clubs stayed up last year and the 3 'small' clubs went down.  Don't think there is much between Everton and Soton and the other solid mid team sides like Stoke yet the prices are massively different to go down.  Couldn't put you off at the prices.  I think the key to the bet is whether you think the 3 coming up have a real shot at staying up.
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« Reply #102054 on: June 01, 2015, 07:19:54 PM »

Getting ready to run for cover......

Surely southampton are too big at 33s.

Were definitely a surprise package this year and next year the following factors are in place.

Could get figured out. Certainly some evidence of this towards the end of this season.
European football
Some more names out of the door again.

Much bigger than the price this time last year and possibly value?

Now that Southampton have got the rigours of a Europa campaign, Sneiderlin is most likely off and the 33's that I quoted before is the worst price available, surely the 66s with ladies represents value

recc £15

I was looking at the 66/1 and the 100/1 everton to go down given how many 'big' clubs stayed up last year and the 3 'small' clubs went down.  Don't think there is much between Everton and Soton and the other solid mid team sides like Stoke yet the prices are massively different to go down.  Couldn't put you off at the prices.  I think the key to the bet is whether you think the 3 coming up have a real shot at staying up.

as i said before i would wait till we see the fixture list saints could get off to a flyer with team back in training and getting matches before anyone else and be upto 250-1 after first 3-4 games its only then that the extra games will be kicking in and saints form will dip and the odds will shrink as we get into a dogfight in the bottom half of the table
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« Reply #102055 on: June 01, 2015, 07:24:46 PM »

Getting ready to run for cover......

Surely southampton are too big at 33s.

Were definitely a surprise package this year and next year the following factors are in place.

Could get figured out. Certainly some evidence of this towards the end of this season.
European football
Some more names out of the door again.

Much bigger than the price this time last year and possibly value?

Now that Southampton have got the rigours of a Europa campaign, Sneiderlin is most likely off and the 33's that I quoted before is the worst price available, surely the 66s with ladies represents value

recc £15

I was looking at the 66/1 and the 100/1 everton to go down given how many 'big' clubs stayed up last year and the 3 'small' clubs went down.  Don't think there is much between Everton and Soton and the other solid mid team sides like Stoke yet the prices are massively different to go down.  Couldn't put you off at the prices.  I think the key to the bet is whether you think the 3 coming up have a real shot at staying up.

as i said before i would wait till we see the fixture list saints could get off to a flyer with team back in training and getting matches before anyone else and be upto 250-1 after first 3-4 games its only then that the extra games will be kicking in and saints form will dip and the odds will shrink as we get into a dogfight in the bottom half of the table

That is a fair angle actually the edge Soton will have the first couple of games in fitness and being match sharp.
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« Reply #102056 on: June 01, 2015, 08:51:31 PM »

Getting ready to run for cover......

Surely southampton are too big at 33s.

Were definitely a surprise package this year and next year the following factors are in place.

Could get figured out. Certainly some evidence of this towards the end of this season.
European football
Some more names out of the door again.

Much bigger than the price this time last year and possibly value?

Now that Southampton have got the rigours of a Europa campaign, Sneiderlin is most likely off and the 33's that I quoted before is the worst price available, surely the 66s with ladies represents value

recc £15

I was looking at the 66/1 and the 100/1 everton to go down given how many 'big' clubs stayed up last year and the 3 'small' clubs went down.  Don't think there is much between Everton and Soton and the other solid mid team sides like Stoke yet the prices are massively different to go down.  Couldn't put you off at the prices.  I think the key to the bet is whether you think the 3 coming up have a real shot at staying up.

The sage on Talksport last night was waxing lyrical about all the promoted sides last night Arbs.  Said Sunderland are nailed on for the drop due to the quality coming up.  Wink  Watford signed Austrian international Prodl from Werder Bremen today who is apparently slow but a colossus in the air.  So an economy version of Mertasacker it would seem.
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« Reply #102057 on: June 02, 2015, 10:37:14 AM »

Daily Report

Profit on Month £30.77

Outstanding Bets £1753.12

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eCEvN9MELsUxB81rHuWrfoX3zwIMPQQ205Lcjm3kbgU/edit#gid=25


no bets completed yesterday


Murray beat Chardy in 4 sets to advance to a quarter final against Ferrer

Djokovic beat Gasquet in straight sets. Nadal awaits him in the quarters

odds for the quarters and outright at http://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/french-open/mens


current county cricket matches have been rain affected

in div 1 our two teams are meeting as middlesex put warwickshire in, whos cored 340 and middlesex are 30-1 in reply with two days to go

Lancashire put surrey in in div 2, had them in trouble at 70-4 but a hundred before lunch, in a single session, from jason roy got surrey up to 400+

derbyshire are 77-2 replying to gloucestershire's 329

amongst player bets, our batsmen all failed yesterday. vince 2 peters 5 newton 0..the perils of batting in poor weather against the red ball


legatissimo has 3-1 favourite and shortening further for the oaks on friday http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/the-oaks/winner

 

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« Reply #102058 on: June 02, 2015, 10:49:46 AM »

Getting ready to run for cover......

Surely southampton are too big at 33s.

Were definitely a surprise package this year and next year the following factors are in place.

Could get figured out. Certainly some evidence of this towards the end of this season.
European football
Some more names out of the door again.

Much bigger than the price this time last year and possibly value?

Now that Southampton have got the rigours of a Europa campaign, Sneiderlin is most likely off and the 33's that I quoted before is the worst price available, surely the 66s with ladies represents value

recc £15

I was looking at the 66/1 and the 100/1 everton to go down given how many 'big' clubs stayed up last year and the 3 'small' clubs went down.  Don't think there is much between Everton and Soton and the other solid mid team sides like Stoke yet the prices are massively different to go down.  Couldn't put you off at the prices.  I think the key to the bet is whether you think the 3 coming up have a real shot at staying up.

Everton had Europa this season, without that for next season I think they will be fine
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« Reply #102059 on: June 02, 2015, 06:16:28 PM »

wawrinka beats federer

tsonga 2-0 up on nishikori...

that bottom half!
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