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« Reply #103140 on: June 23, 2015, 01:11:39 PM »

I suggested this a few weeks ago Omm.

If you betting is driven by purely sourcing bets from these sorts of races, I suspect you may well lose you account.

If you have a nice balance of stuff, and feed in the odd dirty bet, it goes unnoticed.

I am sure even bad punters must stumble across winning ew bet in these races sometimes. It can't result in auto closure, or the bookmaking industry would have shut up shop years ago.

makes sense to me, we don't all bet in hundreds all the time and im particularly aware of the pro and cons of dirty each way races and adjust accordingly. Always nice to spread the love around the bookies as well. Im certain there risk department have bigger fish to fry than those of us that are small time.
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« Reply #103141 on: June 23, 2015, 01:20:48 PM »

disclaimer: don't watch much women's football


however watching the england game last night they flicked up the draw for the tournament


we are one game away from the last 8

germany v france and usa v china..winners play each other in the semis. usa and germany are the favourites for the title

england v canada and australia v japan/netherlands in the other half


the market

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/womens-international/world-cup/womens-world-cup-2015/winner

and

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/womens-international/world-cup/womens-world-cup-2015/to-reach-final


Japan topped their group conceding one goal, three wins out of 3

they won this in 2011 beating the US in the final

they got the silver medal in the 12 olympics

they won the asia cup last year, ahead of australia and china


tonight they play the netherlands a 3rd place qualifier, for which they are 8/11

their route to the final misses usa, germany and france and goes through australia then england or canada

fifa world ranked 4, clearly the best team in their half


we can't use bwin but they are 7/2 japan to reach the final. strikes me as a cracking price.

10/1 outright 1/3 1,2 in a couple of places. probably go 7/1 if they win tonight

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« Reply #103142 on: June 23, 2015, 01:28:18 PM »

I suggested this a few weeks ago Omm.

If you betting is driven by purely sourcing bets from these sorts of races, I suspect you may well lose you account.

If you have a nice balance of stuff, and feed in the odd dirty bet, it goes unnoticed.

I am sure even bad punters must stumble across winning ew bet in these races sometimes. It can't result in auto closure, or the bookmaking industry would have shut up shop years ago.

makes sense to me, we don't all bet in hundreds all the time and im particularly aware of the pro and cons of dirty each way races and adjust accordingly. Always nice to spread the love around the bookies as well. Im certain there risk department have bigger fish to fry than those of us that are small time.

Let's just agree to disagree.  I have probably only had 3 dirty each way bets at small tracks since this thread started.  Boils wouldn't let me place any bet on horse racing after.  The other was one Neil put up and several of us got emails saying we had lost best price guarantee etc from Victor.  Neither was close to big stakes.  I accept if you do a lot of bad bets and the odd good one they shouldn't be closing you (though not sure paddies, boils and shy get this).

As I said, the races are still good, which was the main point.  If people want to bet they can.  Just warning people of the possible consequences and for anyone who bets regularly on horses losing a beteveryday account is really negative EV.  I'd say losing any more accounts for the thread could be the end of the thread.

FWIW love Beverley was my first ever track.  

Edit.  The 9/4 and 7/2 have both gone on the 2nd favourites in the first 2 races.  The bets are probably no good anymore.
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« Reply #103143 on: June 23, 2015, 01:46:33 PM »

disclaimer: don't watch much women's football


however watching the england game last night they flicked up the draw for the tournament


we are one game away from the last 8

germany v france and usa v china..winners play each other in the semis. usa and germany are the favourites for the title

england v canada and australia v japan/netherlands in the other half


the market

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/womens-international/world-cup/womens-world-cup-2015/winner

and

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/womens-international/world-cup/womens-world-cup-2015/to-reach-final


Japan topped their group conceding one goal, three wins out of 3

they won this in 2011 beating the US in the final

they got the silver medal in the 12 olympics

they won the asia cup last year, ahead of australia and china


tonight they play the netherlands a 3rd place qualifier, for which they are 8/11

their route to the final misses usa, germany and france and goes through australia then england or canada

fifa world ranked 4, clearly the best team in their half


we can't use bwin but they are 7/2 japan to reach the final. strikes me as a cracking price.

10/1 outright 1/3 1,2 in a couple of places. probably go 7/1 if they win tonight



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« Reply #103144 on: June 23, 2015, 01:54:10 PM »

not yet thanks. needs some confirmation

just something i spotted but not claiming any detailed knowledge of the women's game beyond a look at the draw and some recent history
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« Reply #103145 on: June 23, 2015, 05:30:01 PM »

dirty EW alert

again it all depends on any NRs but sailsbury first and last race tomorrow both look dirty to me

but i could be wrong as i am new to looking for dirty bets

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« Reply #103146 on: June 23, 2015, 05:31:29 PM »

http://www.oddschecker.com/awards/sports-personality-of-the-year/overseas-sports-personality-of-the-year

Spieth buying money?
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« Reply #103147 on: June 23, 2015, 05:35:11 PM »

dirty EW alert

again it all depends on any NRs but sailsbury first and last race tomorrow both look dirty to me

but i could be wrong as i am new to looking for dirty bets


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its sailsbury not carlise
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« Reply #103148 on: June 23, 2015, 10:31:18 PM »

arsenal 5/1 with lads and coral, 5.6 betfair, cant go off bigger can it

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« Reply #103149 on: June 23, 2015, 10:39:03 PM »

arsenal 5/1 with lads and coral, 5.6 betfair, cant go off bigger can it

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Fred already has a ton on @ 13/2.
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« Reply #103150 on: June 24, 2015, 11:35:04 AM »

Wimbledon Seedings

draw on friday

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/articles/2015-06-24/seeding_for_the_championships_2015.html

Djokovic 1
Tsonga 13

Lisicki 18

for our current bets

markets

http://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/wimbledon/mens/winner

if murray gets djokovic's half again then it is going to be another lopsided draw


http://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/wimbledon/womens/winner
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« Reply #103151 on: June 24, 2015, 11:57:05 AM »

dirty EW alert

again it all depends on any NRs but sailsbury first and last race tomorrow both look dirty to me

but i could be wrong as i am new to looking for dirty bets


FMP

its sailsbury not carlise

both 7 runners.  Worcester 3.55 is better than either if you must.
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« Reply #103152 on: June 24, 2015, 12:40:45 PM »

Only been checking cards for past couple of days  and noticed a lot of over night non runners is this the norm?
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« Reply #103153 on: June 24, 2015, 12:52:02 PM »

Following on from previous comments, Ironsides daily trawl for the dirty ew races, are the quickest way to get your accounts closed/restricted, IMHO.
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« Reply #103154 on: June 24, 2015, 03:53:43 PM »

Following on from previous comments, Ironsides daily trawl for the dirty ew races, are the quickest way to get your accounts closed/restricted, IMHO.

Yes, you can get away with it at the big meetings in the big races but if you want to do it on a daily basis you need to do it in shops and get banned from shops instead lol
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