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[The Camel]

Strange atmosphere at Anfield.

Never been so quiet.

[Karabiner]

All this pope stuff reminds me of a joke I once heard which sums up punters:

Bill is on holiday in Rome and visits the Vatican and, as a devout Catholic, hopes to see the Pope taking Mass.  Unfortunately the Pope isn't available to take Mass this day and, understandably disappointed, Bill stays behind after Mass to ask the Cardinal who stood in why the Pope wasn't available.  The Cardinal takes him to one side and apologises before informing him that the Pope has been ill for some time and isn't expected to last the next few days.  This gives Bill an idea and as a regular punter when he gets back to the UK he heads straight for Ladbrokes and asks for a price on the Pope dying in the next week and is quoted 66/1.  He has a decent bet and on his way out he spots his mate Bob looking a bit depressed and asks him whats wrong.   "Bill" he says "I've done my bollocks at Crayford and have only got fifty quid of my wages left.  The missus is going to kill me"  Bill thinks for a while and then says"listen mate I have a 66/1 certainty for you" and passes on the info about the Pope.   The next day the Vatican declares the Pope is dead and Bill goes to Laddies to collect his readies.  On his way out he spots Bob again looking just as depressed as he did yesterday and asks him whats wrong and didn't he get on the bet.  Bob says " yeah i did but I put him in a double with the Archibishop of Canterbury"

I remember hearing what I think was the original version of that story in the Hills betting shop on Oxford Street where Willie Tann and quite a few other well known faces were regulars and the double was with Arthur Askey who had a near-fatal heart-attack on the same day c1970 but survived.

It still makes me chuckle.

[TightEnd]

thanks

As I say, pick who you think is decent value/in form as a real Madrid anytime

As for Asian lines yes but its a Bet365 offer so got to find something on there if we intend to try the free bet. We might not, of course.



the central idea being you are going for a free bet negatively correlated with your first bet....


(took me several car trips to formulate this far!!)

Bet365 offer Asian handicaps.

B365 says Under 2.5, 3  2.055  with 1.855 for the over 2.5,3 on the Asian line

this compares to 2.25/1.61 on the straight market

[horseplayer]

jonas now taking it out on his centre back partner

[Rubbish2407]

Not sure why "Peter" is favourite here - Popes refrain from taking this because there is a tradition that only Saint Peter should have that honour?  I'm going to throw some arrows at 50/1 shots  Theodore, Felix and Danyon for no other reason than I fancy a sweat with the evening news.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

Looks like I need to get out to Rome next weekend to watch Wales before the seven hills get destroyed.

[tikay]

All this pope stuff reminds me of a joke I once heard which sums up punters:

Bill is on holiday in Rome and visits the Vatican and, as a devout Catholic, hopes to see the Pope taking Mass.  Unfortunately the Pope isn't available to take Mass this day and, understandably disappointed, Bill stays behind after Mass to ask the Cardinal who stood in why the Pope wasn't available.  The Cardinal takes him to one side and apologises before informing him that the Pope has been ill for some time and isn't expected to last the next few days.  This gives Bill an idea and as a regular punter when he gets back to the UK he heads straight for Ladbrokes and asks for a price on the Pope dying in the next week and is quoted 66/1.  He has a decent bet and on his way out he spots his mate Bob looking a bit depressed and asks him whats wrong.   "Bill" he says "I've done my bollocks at Crayford and have only got fifty quid of my wages left.  The missus is going to kill me"  Bill thinks for a while and then says"listen mate I have a 66/1 certainty for you" and passes on the info about the Pope.   The next day the Vatican declares the Pope is dead and Bill goes to Laddies to collect his readies.  On his way out he spots Bob again looking just as depressed as he did yesterday and asks him whats wrong and didn't he get on the bet.  Bob says " yeah i did but I put him in a double with the Archibishop of Canterbury"

I remember hearing what I think was the original version of that story in the Hills betting shop on Oxford Street where Willie Tann and quite a few other well known faces were regulars and the double was with Arthur Askey who had a near-fatal heart-attack on the same day c1970 but survived.

It still makes me chuckle.

Willie Tann likes a bet?

[tikay]

PS -

[youthnkzR]

The Bet365 Madrid offer

Real Madrid and Man Utd clash in the last 16 of the UEFA Champions League at the Santiago Bernabeu Stadium on Wednesday 13th February - and we’ve got a fantastic free bet offer to add to the excitement.

Place a pre-match bet on this much anticipated fixture and we will give you a free In-Play bet to the same stake on the big match.

To qualify for your free In-Play bet, simply place a bet before kick-off, then once the game starts place another bet on any In-Play market. If your FIRST In-Play bet loses we will refund this stake, up to the same value as your largest pre-match bet (max £50).

I am assuming you'll get on for £50

This might be one of many suggestions you'll get:


It's a first leg.

Man U tactically I think will stick two on Ronaldo. Da Silva with Valencia in front

They will play exclusively on the counter, with Rooney part of a 5 man midfield

Phil Jones man to man on Fellaini at the weekend was an interesting tactical nuance that I wondered might have been a precursor to something similar on Wednesday too


I think 1-1,1-0,0-0 are all very possible..both teams happy to take it to the second leg....

Bet365 are 5/4 Under 2.5 8/13 over

I suggest £50 on the under, which is decent value imo


If the under goes south, the reasonable possibility is that one of Higuain and Benzama, anytime goalscorer at 5/4 is better value than a double marked or man marked Ronaldo at 4/6

As the game starts, stick the free £50 on Benzema (or insert player of your choice) anytime

as the Unders bet and the anytime goalscorer bet amongst the best Madrid goalscoring bets are negatively correlated.



Happy to hear better suggestions!

Personally for this I think we should limit our own risk as much as possible and just whack the free 50 token on some decent sweat.

E.g. £50 no own goal @ 1.05 / no red card - and then use our free token on someone like Paul Scholes to FGS @28/1 or no goals corer @14/1.

Means were effectively free-rolling a big return sweat. (As close to a free-roll as we're going to get).

Anybody got any views on this?

[MahoganyVic]

Pretty sure Fred wont get the freebet as they send you an email saying no promotions once stakes get limited

[TightEnd]

Tom that bet isn't a freeroll anyway. your 1.05 shot needs to lose for the sweat bet to be live

Negative Correlation is the thing, not picking a sure thing with the first bet for no return

[The Camel]

thanks

As I say, pick who you think is decent value/in form as a real Madrid anytime

As for Asian lines yes but its a Bet365 offer so got to find something on there if we intend to try the free bet. We might not, of course.



the central idea being you are going for a free bet negatively correlated with your first bet....


(took me several car trips to formulate this far!!)

Bet365 offer Asian handicaps.

B365 says Under 2.5, 3  2.055  with 1.855 for the over 2.5,3 on the Asian line

this compares to 2.25/1.61 on the straight market

Yes, but you get half your money back if the total finishes at 3.

Much better than taking 6/5 2 or less.

[TightEnd]

thanks

As I say, pick who you think is decent value/in form as a real Madrid anytime

As for Asian lines yes but its a Bet365 offer so got to find something on there if we intend to try the free bet. We might not, of course.



the central idea being you are going for a free bet negatively correlated with your first bet....


(took me several car trips to formulate this far!!)

Bet365 offer Asian handicaps.

B365 says Under 2.5, 3  2.055  with 1.855 for the over 2.5,3 on the Asian line

this compares to 2.25/1.61 on the straight market

Yes, but you get half your money back if the total finishes at 3.

Much better than taking 6/5 2 or less.

thanks

I wasn't criticising, just putting the figures up.

[tikay]

Love that Negative Thingy, if only we could find the right bet.

Fred can't get on, of course, but still a great idea.

[The Camel]

thanks

As I say, pick who you think is decent value/in form as a real Madrid anytime

As for Asian lines yes but its a Bet365 offer so got to find something on there if we intend to try the free bet. We might not, of course.



the central idea being you are going for a free bet negatively correlated with your first bet....


(took me several car trips to formulate this far!!)

Bet365 offer Asian handicaps.

B365 says Under 2.5, 3  2.055  with 1.855 for the over 2.5,3 on the Asian line

this compares to 2.25/1.61 on the straight market

Yes, but you get half your money back if the total finishes at 3.

Much better than taking 6/5 2 or less.

thanks

I wasn't criticising, just putting the figures up.

Depending on the t and cs of the free bet though.. your suggestion might be better.

If getting half you money back counts as a return, you might not get the free bet.

[The Camel]

All this pope stuff reminds me of a joke I once heard which sums up punters:

Bill is on holiday in Rome and visits the Vatican and, as a devout Catholic, hopes to see the Pope taking Mass.  Unfortunately the Pope isn't available to take Mass this day and, understandably disappointed, Bill stays behind after Mass to ask the Cardinal who stood in why the Pope wasn't available.  The Cardinal takes him to one side and apologises before informing him that the Pope has been ill for some time and isn't expected to last the next few days.  This gives Bill an idea and as a regular punter when he gets back to the UK he heads straight for Ladbrokes and asks for a price on the Pope dying in the next week and is quoted 66/1.  He has a decent bet and on his way out he spots his mate Bob looking a bit depressed and asks him whats wrong.   "Bill" he says "I've done my bollocks at Crayford and have only got fifty quid of my wages left.  The missus is going to kill me"  Bill thinks for a while and then says"listen mate I have a 66/1 certainty for you" and passes on the info about the Pope.   The next day the Vatican declares the Pope is dead and Bill goes to Laddies to collect his readies.  On his way out he spots Bob again looking just as depressed as he did yesterday and asks him whats wrong and didn't he get on the bet.  Bob says " yeah i did but I put him in a double with the Archibishop of Canterbury"

I remember hearing what I think was the original version of that story in the Hills betting shop on Oxford Street where Willie Tann and quite a few other well known faces were regulars and the double was with Arthur Askey who had a near-fatal heart-attack on the same day c1970 but survived.

It still makes me chuckle.

Willie Tann likes a bet?

One of my friends was in a death pool and one of the participants had Arthur Askey one year.

He had both legs amputated and the guy tried to claim half the pool