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[sonour]

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Thank you doubleup

[arbboy]

Having a row with Hills. I wonder if anyone can help.

 I bet the Silver Cup winner Huntsman's Meadow (obv brag post). Part of my bet was placed in a Hills shop on Friday night at approx. 8.30pm each-way at 12/1.

 Hills are saying there is a 15p Rule 4 as Telmeyd was a non-runner and they say they had that at 5/1.

 My understanding is that Telmeyd was officially a non-runner at 6.08am Saturday and therefore if they had a price of 5/1 they would be entitled to take a rule 4. I do not remember there being a price on Telmeyd at any time though. The horse was listed in the WillHill ad (and all the bookmaker ads) as a non-runner. The copy for these ads is sent over at 4pm Friday. The Pricewise table on Saturday does not include Telmeyd and the horse was a non-runner on the racecard.

 I don't like that they can just say 5/1 was their price...why not say we had it 4/9? I didn't see a price on the screen and it definitely was not on oddschecker or in the Betfair market.

 Can anyone remember seeing the price Telmeyd?

 Ladbrokes confirm that they never had a price and have not charged Rule 4 on any bets and they started taking bets on that race at 6pm Friday.

 Hills customer service guy was basically saying tough shit and if you don't like it go to IBAS. When I asked to speak to his supervisor he said he was busy and when I said I would hold he told me it could be several days. I asked if there was a manager there and he said no and I asked his name and he told me he couldn't tell me for security reasons.

While you are at it ask the same unhelpful hills guys how likely they think its going to be 93 degrees in late September and onwards and get on with settling that weather bet!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043617/Britain-bakes-hottest-October-day-100-YEARS--theres-days-sunshine-come.html.  Makes you realise how bad their quote for 33/1 October being the hottest month was.

[sonour]

Having a row with Hills. I wonder if anyone can help.

 I bet the Silver Cup winner Huntsman's Meadow (obv brag post). Part of my bet was placed in a Hills shop on Friday night at approx. 8.30pm each-way at 12/1.

 Hills are saying there is a 15p Rule 4 as Telmeyd was a non-runner and they say they had that at 5/1.

 My understanding is that Telmeyd was officially a non-runner at 6.08am Saturday and therefore if they had a price of 5/1 they would be entitled to take a rule 4. I do not remember there being a price on Telmeyd at any time though. The horse was listed in the WillHill ad (and all the bookmaker ads) as a non-runner. The copy for these ads is sent over at 4pm Friday. The Pricewise table on Saturday does not include Telmeyd and the horse was a non-runner on the racecard.

 I don't like that they can just say 5/1 was their price...why not say we had it 4/9? I didn't see a price on the screen and it definitely was not on oddschecker or in the Betfair market.

 Can anyone remember seeing the price Telmeyd?

 Ladbrokes confirm that they never had a price and have not charged Rule 4 on any bets and they started taking bets on that race at 6pm Friday.

 Hills customer service guy was basically saying tough shit and if you don't like it go to IBAS. When I asked to speak to his supervisor he said he was busy and when I said I would hold he told me it could be several days. I asked if there was a manager there and he said no and I asked his name and he told me he couldn't tell me for security reasons.

While you are at it ask the same unhelpful hills guys how likely they think its going to be 93 degrees in late September and onwards and get on with settling that weather bet!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043617/Britain-bakes-hottest-October-day-100-YEARS--theres-days-sunshine-come.html.  Makes you realise how bad their quote for 33/1 October being the hottest month was.

Talking about WH, I bet Sam Allardyce to still be West Ham manager on 30th June 2014 in the when will Sam Allardyce leave West Ham Market and noticed that the bet hadn't been settled.
I contacted customer services and was told that market won't be settled until he leaves West Ham.

[sonour]

Having a row with Hills. I wonder if anyone can help.

 I bet the Silver Cup winner Huntsman's Meadow (obv brag post). Part of my bet was placed in a Hills shop on Friday night at approx. 8.30pm each-way at 12/1.

 Hills are saying there is a 15p Rule 4 as Telmeyd was a non-runner and they say they had that at 5/1.

 My understanding is that Telmeyd was officially a non-runner at 6.08am Saturday and therefore if they had a price of 5/1 they would be entitled to take a rule 4. I do not remember there being a price on Telmeyd at any time though. The horse was listed in the WillHill ad (and all the bookmaker ads) as a non-runner. The copy for these ads is sent over at 4pm Friday. The Pricewise table on Saturday does not include Telmeyd and the horse was a non-runner on the racecard.

 I don't like that they can just say 5/1 was their price...why not say we had it 4/9? I didn't see a price on the screen and it definitely was not on oddschecker or in the Betfair market.

 Can anyone remember seeing the price Telmeyd?

 Ladbrokes confirm that they never had a price and have not charged Rule 4 on any bets and they started taking bets on that race at 6pm Friday.

 Hills customer service guy was basically saying tough shit and if you don't like it go to IBAS. When I asked to speak to his supervisor he said he was busy and when I said I would hold he told me it could be several days. I asked if there was a manager there and he said no and I asked his name and he told me he couldn't tell me for security reasons.

While you are at it ask the same unhelpful hills guys how likely they think its going to be 93 degrees in late September and onwards and get on with settling that weather bet!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043617/Britain-bakes-hottest-October-day-100-YEARS--theres-days-sunshine-come.html.  Makes you realise how bad their quote for 33/1 October being the hottest month was.

Arbboy,

Is that market settled at the end of October or end of December please ?

[Tal]

Having a row with Hills. I wonder if anyone can help.

 I bet the Silver Cup winner Huntsman's Meadow (obv brag post). Part of my bet was placed in a Hills shop on Friday night at approx. 8.30pm each-way at 12/1.

 Hills are saying there is a 15p Rule 4 as Telmeyd was a non-runner and they say they had that at 5/1.

 My understanding is that Telmeyd was officially a non-runner at 6.08am Saturday and therefore if they had a price of 5/1 they would be entitled to take a rule 4. I do not remember there being a price on Telmeyd at any time though. The horse was listed in the WillHill ad (and all the bookmaker ads) as a non-runner. The copy for these ads is sent over at 4pm Friday. The Pricewise table on Saturday does not include Telmeyd and the horse was a non-runner on the racecard.

 I don't like that they can just say 5/1 was their price...why not say we had it 4/9? I didn't see a price on the screen and it definitely was not on oddschecker or in the Betfair market.

 Can anyone remember seeing the price Telmeyd?

 Ladbrokes confirm that they never had a price and have not charged Rule 4 on any bets and they started taking bets on that race at 6pm Friday.

 Hills customer service guy was basically saying tough shit and if you don't like it go to IBAS. When I asked to speak to his supervisor he said he was busy and when I said I would hold he told me it could be several days. I asked if there was a manager there and he said no and I asked his name and he told me he couldn't tell me for security reasons.

While you are at it ask the same unhelpful hills guys how likely they think its going to be 93 degrees in late September and onwards and get on with settling that weather bet!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043617/Britain-bakes-hottest-October-day-100-YEARS--theres-days-sunshine-come.html.  Makes you realise how bad their quote for 33/1 October being the hottest month was.

Talking about WH, I bet Sam Allardyce to still be West Ham manager on 30th June 2014 in the when will Sam Allardyce leave West Ham Market and noticed that the bet hadn't been settled.
I contacted customer services and was told that market won't be settled until he leaves West Ham.

Who's working for them? Steven Hawking?!

"Hello. I bet a thing not to happen by 30 June 2014. It's now 20 September 2014 and it still hasn't happened. I'd like my money, please."

"Ahh. I see what you've done there, madam. You've assumed time is a linear constant. We're a bit above that sort of behaviour at William Hill."

[RickBFA]

All this nonsense from the bookmakers increases the incentive to smash them whenever possible.

It was a nice day today on the correct score front in the Man City Chelsea game from our friends at Sadblokes.

I have a feeling Sonour's husbands may be making various visits tomorrow too.

[arbboy]

Having a row with Hills. I wonder if anyone can help.

 I bet the Silver Cup winner Huntsman's Meadow (obv brag post). Part of my bet was placed in a Hills shop on Friday night at approx. 8.30pm each-way at 12/1.

 Hills are saying there is a 15p Rule 4 as Telmeyd was a non-runner and they say they had that at 5/1.

 My understanding is that Telmeyd was officially a non-runner at 6.08am Saturday and therefore if they had a price of 5/1 they would be entitled to take a rule 4. I do not remember there being a price on Telmeyd at any time though. The horse was listed in the WillHill ad (and all the bookmaker ads) as a non-runner. The copy for these ads is sent over at 4pm Friday. The Pricewise table on Saturday does not include Telmeyd and the horse was a non-runner on the racecard.

 I don't like that they can just say 5/1 was their price...why not say we had it 4/9? I didn't see a price on the screen and it definitely was not on oddschecker or in the Betfair market.

 Can anyone remember seeing the price Telmeyd?

 Ladbrokes confirm that they never had a price and have not charged Rule 4 on any bets and they started taking bets on that race at 6pm Friday.

 Hills customer service guy was basically saying tough shit and if you don't like it go to IBAS. When I asked to speak to his supervisor he said he was busy and when I said I would hold he told me it could be several days. I asked if there was a manager there and he said no and I asked his name and he told me he couldn't tell me for security reasons.

While you are at it ask the same unhelpful hills guys how likely they think its going to be 93 degrees in late September and onwards and get on with settling that weather bet!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043617/Britain-bakes-hottest-October-day-100-YEARS--theres-days-sunshine-come.html.  Makes you realise how bad their quote for 33/1 October being the hottest month was.

Arbboy,

Is that market settled at the end of October or end of December please ?

I assume it will be the end of October as they didn't quote Nov and Dec.  Given how much these bookies pay out early on things that can actually happen i find it comical how they don't pay out on things like this early which literally can't lose and give the customer the money back to reinvest with them asap.  You don't get 20% tax free in the bank though in 5 months so even if they take til Jan 1 2015 to pay out it's still money for old rope.  I will actually write to the Racing Post letters page for the first time in history if they actually wait until xmas to pay out on this bet.

[arbboy]

Having a row with Hills. I wonder if anyone can help.

 I bet the Silver Cup winner Huntsman's Meadow (obv brag post). Part of my bet was placed in a Hills shop on Friday night at approx. 8.30pm each-way at 12/1.

 Hills are saying there is a 15p Rule 4 as Telmeyd was a non-runner and they say they had that at 5/1.

 My understanding is that Telmeyd was officially a non-runner at 6.08am Saturday and therefore if they had a price of 5/1 they would be entitled to take a rule 4. I do not remember there being a price on Telmeyd at any time though. The horse was listed in the WillHill ad (and all the bookmaker ads) as a non-runner. The copy for these ads is sent over at 4pm Friday. The Pricewise table on Saturday does not include Telmeyd and the horse was a non-runner on the racecard.

 I don't like that they can just say 5/1 was their price...why not say we had it 4/9? I didn't see a price on the screen and it definitely was not on oddschecker or in the Betfair market.

 Can anyone remember seeing the price Telmeyd?

 Ladbrokes confirm that they never had a price and have not charged Rule 4 on any bets and they started taking bets on that race at 6pm Friday.

 Hills customer service guy was basically saying tough shit and if you don't like it go to IBAS. When I asked to speak to his supervisor he said he was busy and when I said I would hold he told me it could be several days. I asked if there was a manager there and he said no and I asked his name and he told me he couldn't tell me for security reasons.

While you are at it ask the same unhelpful hills guys how likely they think its going to be 93 degrees in late September and onwards and get on with settling that weather bet!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043617/Britain-bakes-hottest-October-day-100-YEARS--theres-days-sunshine-come.html.  Makes you realise how bad their quote for 33/1 October being the hottest month was.

Talking about WH, I bet Sam Allardyce to still be West Ham manager on 30th June 2014 in the when will Sam Allardyce leave West Ham Market and noticed that the bet hadn't been settled.
I contacted customer services and was told that market won't be settled until he leaves West Ham.

This just shows how clueless the vast majority of staff are at these bookmakers nowadays.  I find dealing with any customer service people painful beyond belief and its just a copy and paste exercise from them from hundreds of corporate answers.

Even when you ask to speak to their call centre boss they are just as clueless yet you can never ever ever speak to a loltrader who actually makes the decisions.

[Chompy]

Having a row with Hills. I wonder if anyone can help.

 I bet the Silver Cup winner Huntsman's Meadow (obv brag post). Part of my bet was placed in a Hills shop on Friday night at approx. 8.30pm each-way at 12/1.

 Hills are saying there is a 15p Rule 4 as Telmeyd was a non-runner and they say they had that at 5/1.

 My understanding is that Telmeyd was officially a non-runner at 6.08am Saturday and therefore if they had a price of 5/1 they would be entitled to take a rule 4. I do not remember there being a price on Telmeyd at any time though. The horse was listed in the WillHill ad (and all the bookmaker ads) as a non-runner. The copy for these ads is sent over at 4pm Friday. The Pricewise table on Saturday does not include Telmeyd and the horse was a non-runner on the racecard.

 I don't like that they can just say 5/1 was their price...why not say we had it 4/9? I didn't see a price on the screen and it definitely was not on oddschecker or in the Betfair market.

 Can anyone remember seeing the price Telmeyd?

 Ladbrokes confirm that they never had a price and have not charged Rule 4 on any bets and they started taking bets on that race at 6pm Friday.

 Hills customer service guy was basically saying tough shit and if you don't like it go to IBAS. When I asked to speak to his supervisor he said he was busy and when I said I would hold he told me it could be several days. I asked if there was a manager there and he said no and I asked his name and he told me he couldn't tell me for security reasons.

This seems to be the flavour of the month. Somehow Baldfred managed to slap a 20p Rule 4 on Earth Drummer yesterday for 2 x 14-1 shots and a 25-1 shot coming out.

[Bad Beat]

 Hills have a definite policy of keeping horses that are likely to be pulled out at less than 14/1 even when they are trading at 25/1 and more on Betfair. This was different though, this horse was never a runner I think. The problem is it's now up to me to prove it. Surely if they sent their adds over with NR in them then I can't be r4'd for a bet placed at 8.30pm?

[Chompy]

Neil, you have PM.

[Marky147]

Hills have a definite policy of keeping horses that are likely to be pulled out at less than 14/1 even when they are trading at 25/1 and more on Betfair. This was different though, this horse was never a runner I think. The problem is it's now up to me to prove it. Surely if they sent their adds over with NR in them then I can't be r4'd for a bet placed at 8.30pm?

I noticed that Telmeyd was kept in on oddschecker Friday night, despite there being no price for it with most of the bookies.

My mate had Bogart/Blaine in an e/w double with 365 and didn't get R4d fwiw  (placed on Friday night)

[sonour]

Having a row with Hills. I wonder if anyone can help.

 I bet the Silver Cup winner Huntsman's Meadow (obv brag post). Part of my bet was placed in a Hills shop on Friday night at approx. 8.30pm each-way at 12/1.

 Hills are saying there is a 15p Rule 4 as Telmeyd was a non-runner and they say they had that at 5/1.

 My understanding is that Telmeyd was officially a non-runner at 6.08am Saturday and therefore if they had a price of 5/1 they would be entitled to take a rule 4. I do not remember there being a price on Telmeyd at any time though. The horse was listed in the WillHill ad (and all the bookmaker ads) as a non-runner. The copy for these ads is sent over at 4pm Friday. The Pricewise table on Saturday does not include Telmeyd and the horse was a non-runner on the racecard.

 I don't like that they can just say 5/1 was their price...why not say we had it 4/9? I didn't see a price on the screen and it definitely was not on oddschecker or in the Betfair market.

 Can anyone remember seeing the price Telmeyd?

 Ladbrokes confirm that they never had a price and have not charged Rule 4 on any bets and they started taking bets on that race at 6pm Friday.

 Hills customer service guy was basically saying tough shit and if you don't like it go to IBAS. When I asked to speak to his supervisor he said he was busy and when I said I would hold he told me it could be several days. I asked if there was a manager there and he said no and I asked his name and he told me he couldn't tell me for security reasons.

This seems to be the flavour of the month. Somehow Baldfred managed to slap a 20p Rule 4 on Earth Drummer yesterday for 2 x 14-1 shots and a 25-1 shot coming out.

There was no R4 on Earth Drummer at  Sky, PP and 888. At Baldfred I had 10p R4.

[Chompy]

Had two bets with them, one on an account, one in a shop, 10p and 20p respectively.

[sonour]

My 10p one was online. I've got two shop ones to be collected. Are you fighting the 20p shop one ?