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« Reply #8835 on: June 15, 2012, 10:18:58 PM »

Fred's golf book iks a thing of beauty, it must be said

Exciting


and the thread is now in profit this month before the golf?
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« Reply #8836 on: June 15, 2012, 10:19:10 PM »

Is it too early to start greening out on the golf? Smiley

It depends who you are on and at what prices.
Player Odds Amount
Woods   10/1   25
Colsaerts   220   5
Rose   28/1   10
Furyk   33/1   5
Kuchar   28/1   10
McDowell e/w   80/1   10
Zhang   6/1   10
Harrington   80/1   10
Watney   140   5



I don't normally like to green out for someone I've bet at a decent price like McDowell or Colsaerts in your list until they are a single-figure price as I always like to give myself a chance of a decent win having picked a big-priced runner.

Colsaerts I might be looking to take some out @ 11 although I might save my stake @ 21, McDowell 9 perhaps, Tiger maybe save my stake @ 2.5.

I tend to save my stake for one or all of my runners with my first green-out if it's a big price, and then hope to get close to evens or odds-on to take a profit, leaving a decent amount for the win.

That's just roughly what I would be looking at, my style of playing BF if you like.
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« Reply #8837 on: June 15, 2012, 10:19:53 PM »

Why are they playing film noir jazz movie scores as background music on the golf?

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« Reply #8838 on: June 15, 2012, 10:21:42 PM »

Fred's golf book iks a thing of beauty, it must be said

Exciting


and the thread is now in profit this month before the golf?

No, £15 down, (I'll take that after our recent travails), Ashley Cole was Billy Let Down, he failed to get booked for the Banzai..
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« Reply #8839 on: June 15, 2012, 10:23:21 PM »

Is it too early to start greening out on the golf? Smiley

It depends who you are on and at what prices.
Player Odds Amount
Woods   10/1   25
Colsaerts   220   5
Rose   28/1   10
Furyk   33/1   5
Kuchar   28/1   10
McDowell e/w   80/1   10
Zhang   6/1   10
Harrington   80/1   10
Watney   140   5



I don't normally like to green out for someone I've bet at a decent price like McDowell or Colsaerts in your list until they are a single-figure price as I always like to give myself a chance of a decent win having picked a big-priced runner.

Colsaerts I might be looking to take some out @ 11 although I might save my stake @ 21, McDowell 9 perhaps, Tiger maybe save my stake @ 2.5.

I tend to save my stake for one or all of my runners with my first green-out if it's a big price, and then hope to get close to evens or odds-on to take a profit, leaving a decent amount for the win.

That's just roughly what I would be looking at, my style of playing BF if you like.

I think that's really interesting, Ralph, thanks.
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« Reply #8840 on: June 15, 2012, 10:24:24 PM »

Is it too early to start greening out on the golf? Smiley

It depends who you are on and at what prices.
Player Odds Amount
Woods   10/1   25
Colsaerts   220   5
Rose   28/1   10
Furyk   33/1   5
Kuchar   28/1   10
McDowell e/w   80/1   10
Zhang   6/1   10
Harrington   80/1   10
Watney   140   5



I don't normally like to green out for someone I've bet at a decent price like McDowell or Colsaerts in your list until they are a single-figure price as I always like to give myself a chance of a decent win having picked a big-priced runner.

Colsaerts I might be looking to take some out @ 11 although I might save my stake @ 21, McDowell 9 perhaps, Tiger maybe save my stake @ 2.5.

I tend to save my stake for one or all of my runners with my first green-out if it's a big price, and then hope to get close to evens or odds-on to take a profit, leaving a decent amount for the win.

That's just roughly what I would be looking at, my style of playing BF if you like.

You green out the good bets and are stuck with the bad bets.

Makes zero sense to me.

You back a player because you think he'll do well, why when he's doing well do you no longer want to be with him?
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« Reply #8841 on: June 15, 2012, 10:24:54 PM »

Is it too early to start greening out on the golf? Smiley

It depends who you are on and at what prices.
Player Odds Amount
Woods   10/1   25
Colsaerts   220   5
Rose   28/1   10
Furyk   33/1   5
Kuchar   28/1   10
McDowell e/w   80/1   10
Zhang   6/1   10 (cut)
Harrington   80/1   10
Watney   140   5

Woods can be laid @ 7
Colsaerts can be laid @ 140
Rose can be laid @ 34
Furyk  can be laid @ 55
Kuchar can be laid @ 44
McDowell can be laid @ 48
Harrington can be laid @ 44
Watney can be laid @ 80

Woods can be laid @ 2.82
Colsaerts can be laid @ 32
Rose can be laid @ 65
Furyk  can be laid @ 6.6
Kuchar can be laid @ 36
McDowell can be laid @ 18
Harrington can be laid @ 150
Watney can be laid @ 170

Slight mis-calculation earlier. Smiley

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« Reply #8842 on: June 15, 2012, 10:28:08 PM »

With the time delay of pictures, you put up say, 2.8 Woods.

IF he plays a great shot you'll get matched. If if puts one in the heavy rough and looks like dropping a shot or two you won't get matched.

The only time I don't absolutely detest greening out on golf is between rounds when it's a level playing field.
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« Reply #8843 on: June 15, 2012, 10:31:18 PM »

The only ones that are probably lays are the ones you wouldn't consider laying IMO- Watney and Harrington. You have the winner anyway in Mr Woods
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« Reply #8844 on: June 15, 2012, 10:32:17 PM »

Is it too early to start greening out on the golf? Smiley

It depends who you are on and at what prices.
Player Odds Amount
Woods   10/1   25
Colsaerts   220   5
Rose   28/1   10
Furyk   33/1   5
Kuchar   28/1   10
McDowell e/w   80/1   10
Zhang   6/1   10
Harrington   80/1   10
Watney   140   5



I don't normally like to green out for someone I've bet at a decent price like McDowell or Colsaerts in your list until they are a single-figure price as I always like to give myself a chance of a decent win having picked a big-priced runner.

Colsaerts I might be looking to take some out @ 11 although I might save my stake @ 21, McDowell 9 perhaps, Tiger maybe save my stake @ 2.5.

I tend to save my stake for one or all of my runners with my first green-out if it's a big price, and then hope to get close to evens or odds-on to take a profit, leaving a decent amount for the win.

That's just roughly what I would be looking at, my style of playing BF if you like.

You green out the good bets and are stuck with the bad bets.

Makes zero sense to me.

You back a player because you think he'll do well, why when he's doing well do you no longer want to be with him?

Why do you say that?

Taking a few quid out of someone that you have bet in the win market @ 150 for instance is simply making it an EW bet.

If I bet £20 Colsaerts @ 150 for instance and then lay £50 @ 11, I still have £2500 for the win and some place money secured. I'm not going to lay @ 11 unless I think I've got the value which goes for any of my bets.
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« Reply #8845 on: June 15, 2012, 10:33:51 PM »

With the time delay of pictures, you put up say, 2.8 Woods.

IF he plays a great shot you'll get matched. If if puts one in the heavy rough and looks like dropping a shot or two you won't get matched.

The only time I don't absolutely detest greening out on golf is between rounds when it's a level playing field.

Who said anything about greening out in-running?
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« Reply #8846 on: June 15, 2012, 10:35:24 PM »

Is it too early to start greening out on the golf? Smiley

It depends who you are on and at what prices.
Player Odds Amount
Woods   10/1   25
Colsaerts   220   5
Rose   28/1   10
Furyk   33/1   5
Kuchar   28/1   10
McDowell e/w   80/1   10
Zhang   6/1   10
Harrington   80/1   10
Watney   140   5



I don't normally like to green out for someone I've bet at a decent price like McDowell or Colsaerts in your list until they are a single-figure price as I always like to give myself a chance of a decent win having picked a big-priced runner.

Colsaerts I might be looking to take some out @ 11 although I might save my stake @ 21, McDowell 9 perhaps, Tiger maybe save my stake @ 2.5.

I tend to save my stake for one or all of my runners with my first green-out if it's a big price, and then hope to get close to evens or odds-on to take a profit, leaving a decent amount for the win.

That's just roughly what I would be looking at, my style of playing BF if you like.

You green out the good bets and are stuck with the bad bets.

Makes zero sense to me.

You back a player because you think he'll do well, why when he's doing well do you no longer want to be with him?

Why do you say that?

Taking a few quid out of someone that you have bet in the win market @ 150 for instance is simply making it an EW bet.

If I bet £20 Colsaerts @ 150 for instance and then lay £50 @ 11, I still have £2500 for the win and some place money secured. I'm not going to lay @ 11 unless I think I've got the value which goes for any of my bets.

But it isn't one bet on Colsaerts is it?

You have a portfolio of bets, which is essentially one bet on one of your team to win.

You green out on your players who shorten, but if a player drifts you can't get out on him, can you?

Hence it devalues the value of your team as a whole.
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« Reply #8847 on: June 15, 2012, 10:35:33 PM »

With the time delay of pictures, you put up say, 2.8 Woods.

IF he plays a great shot you'll get matched. If if puts one in the heavy rough and looks like dropping a shot or two you won't get matched.

The only time I don't absolutely detest greening out on golf is between rounds when it's a level playing field.

But no-one watching TV would put up 2.8 if 2.82 is available to lay?
The time delay between shots means that TV coverage gives you plenty of time to make a decision.
You take the existing odds if you like them or you wait - you never post odds hoping to have them taken?

I'm VERY happy to be educated.

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« Reply #8848 on: June 15, 2012, 10:38:02 PM »

I feel for you Mr Tikay with your greening out conundrums. But it's a nice one to have.
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« Reply #8849 on: June 15, 2012, 10:38:56 PM »

I feel for you Mr Tikay with your greening out conundrums. But it's a nice one to have.

He's asleep, he doesn't care.
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