Tips for Tikay

[TightEnd]

PP best price on Sri Lanka if you want a shot at the free £100 bet.

sorry you'll have to explain

what £100 free bet?

sri lanka to win the world cup?

to win their quarter?

why?

[Larry David]

Sorry,thought you were all over these type of bets. Sri Lanka to beat SA 15/8. 8/15 in a few other places (was 8/13 an hour ago). If the match is decided in the last over they refund all losing match bets.  Good offer as you get a lot of tight games.  Shot to nothinh for free, It has been running all competition,two have come up so far.

[Larry David]

100 max refund.

[exstream]

Chompy said this

Teixeiro 7-4 top Seagulls scorer, Garner 6-4 L1 Golden boot.

Bamford would need to get injured or run particularly badly not to bink. Texeiro is already top of the charts and is pursued in the betting by a defender and Sam Baldock, who's done for the season after doing a knee.

I'm on phone so havent looked at anything but isn't texeiro itself a Max?

[Tonji]

The season Mikaela Shriffin bet can be marked as a loss.

http://www.fis-ski.com/alpine-skiing/leader-board/giant-slalom/

With one race to go & in third place it's not possible to catch Fenniger.

Click to see full-size image.

 
The season graph tells some of the story. A decent block of pre season training in GS paid off with a top spot in the first race. But an unexpected slow start & equipment problems in slalom, her preferred discipline, meant her focus on GS suffered as a switch to longer slalom training blocks was needed to get back on the pace.

Truth is Fenniger is pure class, consistent & fast. Even if Shiffrin had been able to maintain form & focus this season in GS she still would have been second best.

[TightEnd]

which reminds me

there have been a few comments along the lines of "i said x would win" and because we have a few newer posters i wanted to put into writing how we try to operate

I am not wanting to be too precious, but rather go back to the roots of what the thread was about

the idea in part in jan 2012 was that people well versed in betting and very knowledgeable about various sports (sometimes, as we know, these are mutually exclusive) shared their thoughts and wrote up some suggested bets for tikay

tikay was a self confessed "punter" back in the old days, with no (self confessed) cognisance of value and The Camel probably didn't know what he was starting, but 30 months later here we are....


what we have always said was that we would try and stay as true as possible to the original idea. Yes its a tips thread but its not a "punting" thread by which i mean the following....

in practical terms, and i am going to use two recent examples not as criticisms of the individuals (who, after all, have backed winners in each instance) but because they are fresh in my mind

the one sentences were along the lines of 

"On the fringe will win"

"I am on Next sensation"

and then they've won and the "told you so" quotes come up

a) We very very rarely place bets on anything without at least some reasoning.

We do have some instances where a tipster who has a long winning record comes on and says "quick this won't last" and we act, but they are quite rare

Apart from those instances, we don't need "war and peace" but a line or two on the angle, or the value or whatever it is that has been spotted is necessary

b) We're not interested in "My girlfriend's hairdresser's sister in law lives next to Mark Hughes and he's off to West Ham next season"

c) if bets get put up very shortly before an event, we're likely to miss them

d) no interest in someone posting "i didn't say it but i knew his bet would lose" afterwards or anything similar. All in the same boat

e) some bets will get missed.


So, wherever possible

- the event

- the idea

- the reasoning

- strength of conviction...you can put up a monetary amount or a subjective thought ("small bet" "like this a lot") this really helps the person placing the bet on here

- post in good time before an event. recognise this isn't always possible

for long term bets

- keep us in touch with how it is doing. (again people come and go so it can be impractial, but ideally a recommender follows the bet from start to finish)


for some newer guys, I hope that all makes sense

[TightEnd]

Sorry,thought you were all over these type of bets. Sri Lanka to beat SA 15/8. 8/15 in a few other places (was 8/13 an hour ago). If the match is decided in the last over they refund all losing match bets.  Good offer as you get a lot of tight games.  Shot to nothinh for free, It has been running all competition,two have come up so far.

ok thanks

on the first post of this thread there is a list of bookmakers we can and can't use

there is also a coupe of very useful explanations on using free bets etc for max ev


tikay does not have

Pinnacle
Betdaq
888
Unibet
Winner
betbright
32 red

not funded

racebets
betway


closed/can't use

boylesports
stan james
sky bet

almost totally restricted/no go

bet365
paddy power

some restrictions, can be ok but generally ok to at least get on in part

ladbrokes
betfred
coral
sportingbet
totesport

all good

bwin
bet victor
william hill
betfair
betfairsportsbook


so when you put up paddy power or skybet etc please bear in mind that the thread won't be able to get on (unless we are helped)

by all means post it, as others will be able to, but betting life isn't as simple for the thread as it was £5,000 ago

[TightEnd]

and here is the spreadsheet where every bet is recorded

month by month, spoort by sport, bookmaker by bookmaker

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aia1Hxq-NDNWdFk3UmlTSXMzTjRBTVNfOWRndVFsZHc&usp=drive_web#gid=24

if you are new-ish worth a look

[aaron1867]

I think you might be slightly contradicting yourself there Tighty.

There are some people who are fantastic contributors to this thread & you seem to get on with the suggestion straight away, without reasons, yes a long term record and ROI+, but you had already lost a better price and in fact it turned out that the SP went off bigger.

I put a suggestion up for use of free bet as it was a very good bet & best priced on Hills, we didn't bet. Someone else posted "back x it's best price with Hills", you of course got on straight away. Along with my own personal comments and comparison to others, I see this with many other posters & I can see why people choose not to post reasoning or go into detail because reading some of the horse bets placed at Cheltenham, they must have thought "why Should I?"

The thread has just picked up of course and great to see some elders back, but there are some great bets being missed out there

[Larry David]

No problem Tighty.  Wasn't aware of which book you were restricted on,it is there however if anyone can get on with both.

Take your point on reasoning which I would have covered in more detail if you hadn't already had a tip for that race.  I probably won't put up a lot of reasoning for horses as you never know who is viewing this thread.  Point taken though on the other things.

[TightEnd]

I think you might be slightly contradicting yourself there Tighty.

There are some people who are fantastic contributors to this thread & you seem to get on with the suggestion straight away, without reasons, yes a long term record and ROI+, but you had already lost a better price and in fact it turned out that the SP went off bigger.

I put a suggestion up for use of free bet as it was a very good bet & best priced on Hills, we didn't bet. Someone else posted "back x it's best price with Hills", you of course got on straight away. Along with my own personal comments and comparison to others, I see this with many other posters & I can see why people choose not to post reasoning or go into detail because reading some of the horse bets placed at Cheltenham, they must have thought "why Should I?"

The thread has just picked up of course and great to see some elders back, but there are some great bets being missed out there

Cheltenham is a mad week, it never stops. when its really busy i know the auto bet guys off a 30 month track record in some cases over many hundreds of bets who i know have thought it all through

with the best will in the world, because you post infrequently and when you do the attitude is pretty chippy on occasions, you aren't in that category. Don't mean to offend but thats being straight.

i don't think there are many great bets put up that are missed at all. Inevitably there are a few

the general point is that the reasoning is important, particularly (for me) from newer/infrequent posters who i don't know are possibly auto bet posters 

[TightEnd]

No problem Tighty.  Wasn't aware of which book you were restricted on,it is there however if anyone can get on with both.

Take your point on reasoning which I would have covered in more detail if you hadn't already had a tip for that race.  I probably won't put up a lot of reasoning for horses as you never know who is viewing this thread.  Point taken though on the other things.

the reason that "you don't know who is viewing this thread" is much over-stated imo

never proven and often mooted, these guys have thousands of bets per second going through at peak times. they aren't checking on here 

[horseplayer]

No problem Tighty.  Wasn't aware of which book you were restricted on,it is there however if anyone can get on with both.

Take your point on reasoning which I would have covered in more detail if you hadn't already had a tip for that race.  I probably won't put up a lot of reasoning for horses as you never know who is viewing this thread.  Point taken though on the other things.

the reason that "you don't know who is viewing this thread" is much over-stated imo

never proven and often mooted, these guys have thousands of bets per second going through at peak times. they aren't checking on here 

On a  very niche sport or something with one or two firms up it is fair enough

Not the case with racing though if you beat sp regularly or even semi regularly you will be closed /restricted quickly. That won't have anything to do with putting three lines of reasoning on here

[Larry David]

Auto-bet posters?  Apologies,never heard this term but at a guess, betting on the next race/sports market available?

[TightEnd]

No problem Tighty.  Wasn't aware of which book you were restricted on,it is there however if anyone can get on with both.

Take your point on reasoning which I would have covered in more detail if you hadn't already had a tip for that race.  I probably won't put up a lot of reasoning for horses as you never know who is viewing this thread.  Point taken though on the other things.

the reason that "you don't know who is viewing this thread" is much over-stated imo

never proven and often mooted, these guys have thousands of bets per second going through at peak times. they aren't checking on here 

On a  very niche sport or something with one or two firms up it is fair enough

Not the case with racing though if you beat sp regularly or even semi regularly you will be closed /restricted quickly. That won't have anything to do with putting three lines of reasoning on here

in the smaller markets

and i totally accept as valid that if someone wants to get on something and is worried that the price will go then of course they should look after their own bets, get on etc etc

no one expects anyone to post and spoil their own price

if after that point they want to share because there is still something to go for, then fantastic