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« Reply #5085 on: May 01, 2012, 06:33:17 PM »

Question RE: Sporting Bet. Are they still charging for deposits?
If so are you accounting for this? Not sure if you deposit for each bet or have money in a few accounts now but if you are being charged for a deposit it should be noted as essentially you aren't getting the advertised odds.

Not really sure, to be honest. When I accessed Sporting Bet for the purposes of this thread, I found I still had money in there my my time with them as their, umm, Poker Pro/Ambassador.

I know, I know, you can't make these things up. I was monsta, I had Flags & everything.   

They charge for deposits under £250
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« Reply #5086 on: May 01, 2012, 06:33:53 PM »

I'll tell you what really would be an interesting geeky stat (esp after a longer sample size).

Which bookmakers do you win most from and which do you lose most to.

Based upon the current small sample size, that is easy to work out - on the spreadsheet every bet is ascribed to whatever bookmaker was used on the spready. Might take me a while to work out, though Mere can probably press a button to get the answer.

You were less than religious about recording which bookmaker you used in the early days of the thread.
Despite this, I present the following for the geeks:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aia1Hxq-NDNWdFk3UmlTSXMzTjRBTVNfOWRndVFsZHc#gid=7

Great stuff.

After a year, I bet we are winning from S*ybet, Paddy and Chandlers.

Break even with Bet365 and Laddies.

Losing on Pinny and Betfair.

"After a year". You seriously think I'll still be doing this in a year, & I'm re-addicted to wagering with Turf Accountants?

More seriously, why do you take that view as to those bookies, Keith? Are you a conspiracy theorist? If not, what is your logic?
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« Reply #5087 on: May 01, 2012, 06:34:46 PM »

Question RE: Sporting Bet. Are they still charging for deposits?
If so are you accounting for this? Not sure if you deposit for each bet or have money in a few accounts now but if you are being charged for a deposit it should be noted as essentially you aren't getting the advertised odds.

Not really sure, to be honest. When I accessed Sporting Bet for the purposes of this thread, I found I still had money in there my my time with them as their, umm, Poker Pro/Ambassador.

I know, I know, you can't make these things up. I was monsta, I had Flags & everything.   

They charge for deposits under £250

Well as it happens, when, routinely, I open an account, or re-deposit, I always deposit £250.
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« Reply #5088 on: May 01, 2012, 06:38:07 PM »

I see Everton are being backed to win at Stoke this evening and have moved from being slight dogs to decent favs. Which isn't that surprising given that Everton have lost just 2 of 15, unbeaten in their last 6 and have scored 4 goals in each of their last three.
But Stoke are decent at home and have only lost 1 of their 6 home matches with the current top 6 sides (1-3 vs Newcastle).
The value on Everton is probably gone but what about a small bet on Nicky Jelavic @ 5/1 (generally) to be first goalscorer? He has scored 9 in his last 7.
Maybe just £10 for the sweat.

Thanks Dazzy.

We have £10 with Paddy Power @ 5/1. We only got 4/1 on him v Man Utd @ Old Trafford, as I recall!

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Premier League Matches Stoke v Everton
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N Jelavic @ 5/1
 
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Single: N Jelavic @ 5/1
1 line at £10.00 per line
Total stake for this bet: £10.00
Potential returns: £60.00
No: O/23146337/0000024

 
Total stake: £10.00
Free bets voucher: £0.00
Total Cost: £10.00
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« Reply #5089 on: May 01, 2012, 06:39:05 PM »


Does anyone know how to look up which ref officiates at specific Premier League games, please? Is there a site that lists these?
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« Reply #5090 on: May 01, 2012, 06:40:37 PM »


The result of the Bish Bash Bosh WWE Cricket was........


Deccan Chargers vs Pune Warriors


Deccan Chargers won by 13 runs


So we losted.
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« Reply #5091 on: May 01, 2012, 06:42:36 PM »


Does anyone know how to look up which ref officiates at specific Premier League games, please? Is there a site that lists these?
I follow the premier league on twitter, they seem to annnounce them routinely, I skip over them tbh....must be on the Premier League site somewhere
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« Reply #5092 on: May 01, 2012, 06:45:33 PM »

Hughton is NAILED on for WBA job , you can get 7/1.. Get on it tikay!
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« Reply #5093 on: May 01, 2012, 06:46:33 PM »


Does anyone know how to look up which ref officiates at specific Premier League games, please? Is there a site that lists these?

If you are looking for historical data, you can use this site:

http://www.football-lineups.com/referee/282/

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« Reply #5094 on: May 01, 2012, 06:47:35 PM »


Does anyone know how to look up which ref officiates at specific Premier League games, please? Is there a site that lists these?

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news.html

Sandy
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« Reply #5095 on: May 01, 2012, 06:48:01 PM »

I see Everton are being backed to win at Stoke this evening and have moved from being slight dogs to decent favs. Which isn't that surprising given that Everton have lost just 2 of 15, unbeaten in their last 6 and have scored 4 goals in each of their last three.
But Stoke are decent at home and have only lost 1 of their 6 home matches with the current top 6 sides (1-3 vs Newcastle).
The value on Everton is probably gone but what about a small bet on Nicky Jelavic @ 5/1 (generally) to be first goalscorer? He has scored 9 in his last 7.
Maybe just £10 for the sweat.

Thanks Dazzy.

We have £10 with Paddy Power @ 5/1. We only got 4/1 on him v Man Utd @ Old Trafford, as I recall!

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Premier League Matches Stoke v Everton
01-05-2012 19:45
First Goalscorer
N Jelavic @ 5/1
 
Your Bets Win
Single: N Jelavic @ 5/1
1 line at £10.00 per line
Total stake for this bet: £10.00
Potential returns: £60.00
No: O/23146337/0000024

 
Total stake: £10.00
Free bets voucher: £0.00
Total Cost: £10.00


The 4/1 was for "anytime goalscorer"; this is for "first goalscorer".
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« Reply #5096 on: May 01, 2012, 06:48:49 PM »

Hughton is NAILED on for WBA job , you can get 7/1.. Get on it tikay!

Suprised it would be nailed on for a Birmingham manager to go to one of there rivals ? Esp after how it's gone at Villa this season, plus the fact he might get Brummies promoted.
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« Reply #5097 on: May 01, 2012, 06:49:36 PM »

I'll tell you what really would be an interesting geeky stat (esp after a longer sample size).

Which bookmakers do you win most from and which do you lose most to.

Based upon the current small sample size, that is easy to work out - on the spreadsheet every bet is ascribed to whatever bookmaker was used on the spready. Might take me a while to work out, though Mere can probably press a button to get the answer.

You were less than religious about recording which bookmaker you used in the early days of the thread.
Despite this, I present the following for the geeks:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aia1Hxq-NDNWdFk3UmlTSXMzTjRBTVNfOWRndVFsZHc#gid=7

Great stuff.

After a year, I bet we are winning from S*ybet, Paddy and Chandlers.

Break even with Bet365 and Laddies.

Losing on Pinny and Betfair.

"After a year". You seriously think I'll still be doing this in a year, & I'm re-addicted to wagering with Turf Accountants?

More seriously, why do you take that view as to those bookies, Keith? Are you a conspiracy theorist? If not, what is your logic?

Because the odds compilers at the top 3 we'll be winning from are totally useless. There's at least 10 punters on this forum more clued up than them. That's why they are the quickest to restrict winning punters. The bookmakers know they can't beat the shrewdies so they stop taking their bets. You can add Coral and Betbaldie to that list.

Bet365 and Ladbrokes are much sharper. You can beat them, but you have to be good. My guess is break even long term. That's why they are much slower restricting punters.

Pinny and Betfair are another kettle of fish. Their price is more or less the correct price and we will be beaten up by the juice. Only very very few punters can win on Pinny or Betfair.

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« Reply #5098 on: May 01, 2012, 06:52:59 PM »


Fascinating explanation, Keith!
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« Reply #5099 on: May 01, 2012, 06:57:18 PM »


Does anyone know how to look up which ref officiates at specific Premier League games, please? Is there a site that lists these?

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news.html

Sandy

Perfect, thanks.
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