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« Reply #9015 on: June 17, 2012, 01:10:25 PM »

sporting index have the game in for 11.75 corners. (spreadex 11.55 midpoint)
dunno if that makes the 10/11 >11 a bet tho

in the germany game they are big favs in the corner supremecy market (2.75)

not posting for/against any bet,just that i think the spread firms are quite good at pricing these markets.
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« Reply #9016 on: June 17, 2012, 01:19:24 PM »

What about portugal more than 4 corners at 5/6 bet victor?

11 and 6 so far and against a team that has conceded 4.5 per game.

Couldn't put you off that's for sure.

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« Reply #9017 on: June 17, 2012, 01:33:08 PM »

Looks like the following applies which is a nonsense


Accidental Fouls

1.   If an accidental foul causes an injury severe enough for the referee to stop the bout immediately, the bout will result in a TECHNICAL DRAW if stopped before four (4) completed rounds.  Four (4) rounds are complete when the bell rings signifying the end of the fourth round.


In America and in any world title fight it is declared a no contest if 4 rounds haven't been completed which seems fair to me, after that they go to the cards.  Well done to those who backed the draw I guess.

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Interesting view on Betfair forum that as fight was for WBA interim title and the WBA don't have a technical draw in their rules it should have been declared no contest.  What a farce.

Here's the WBA's rules

b) ACCIDENTAL BLOWS: If the referee sees, or after consulting with
the doctor he concludes that a boxer has been injured in an accidental
manner, and as a consequence of this wound, the boxer is not able to
continue the fight, he shall IMMEDIATELY notify the Local
Commission representatives, the fight supervisor who represents the
World Boxing Association, and the judges of the fight, that the fight has
ended.
Should under the same circumstances (intentional unfair blow), the fight
could be resumed the referee shall notified the above mentioned
persons that the wound was produced by an accidental blow, for if the
wound gets worse in subsequent rounds and the suspension of the fight
would be deemed necessary, the decision to call shall be as follows:

NO DECISION: In case that both boxers are in a draw in the judges
scorecards, or in case that no more than four (4) rounds have passed
at the time he stopped the fight.

TECHNICAL DECISION: In favor of the boxer that is in advantage in the judges’ scorecards.

Complete and utter incompetence behind this being called a TD.  I've no doubt it will be changed to a NC in due course.  I don't fancy my chances of getting my stake back though.  I'd rather Munroe got sparked in the first than this which has put me on life tilt.  Chambers decision didn't help either.  Boxing just keeps shooting itself in the foot.
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« Reply #9018 on: June 17, 2012, 02:03:40 PM »

What about portugal more than 4 corners at 5/6 bet victor?

11 and 6 so far and against a team that has conceded 4.5 per game.

Couldn't put you off that's for sure.

Sandy

A lot of it depends how Portugal play.
They are naturally a team that gets a lot of corners (average over 8 in last 2 years, in competitive games - excluding games vs really weak teams).

The odds setters have marked them down as playing conservatively, as they have Holland as favourites in corner supremacy, and have Portugal getting less than 5.
The variables are whether Holland score early, and how the other game is going.
The real danger is Portugal locking up a draw in the last 20 minutes, and showing no ambition.

I think >4 at 5/6 is a bet, but isn't massive value, and could be a frustrating one.
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« Reply #9019 on: June 17, 2012, 02:58:56 PM »

Anyone having trouble using Betfair today? Keep getting a swhirly loading thing.
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« Reply #9020 on: June 17, 2012, 03:03:01 PM »

Anyone having trouble using Betfair today? Keep getting a swhirly loading thing.

I did first thing until i rebooted then firefox installed it's latest updates and it's now fine with a new floaty/scrolly thing.
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« Reply #9021 on: June 17, 2012, 03:05:13 PM »

Anyone having trouble using Betfair today? Keep getting a swhirly loading thing.

I did first thing until i rebooted then firefox installed it's latest updates and it's now fine with a new floaty/scrolly thing.

Yea, i stopped using chrome, loaded up mozilla and now all is fine. Cheers.
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« Reply #9022 on: June 17, 2012, 04:06:51 PM »

Six group games left and there may be some mileage in the Half Time / Full Time markets.

To back both options of Team A / Team B and also Team B / Team A - you are looking at odds of around 33s and 33s, or 33s and 40s, or 33s and 50s depending on who is playing.


In the Group Stages of the 2008 Euros there were 3.
In the Group Stages of the 2004 Euros there were 4.
In the Group Stages of the 2012 Euros there have been 0.

Due to the nature of these remaining games, I hope to hit one. I've done it in the last couple of games but with no success, although if the cards fall right you can 'make'.

I am not sure what to suggest stakewise for this bet? and you could easily argue that the previous sample size was a bit low? however could be a fun split small stakes bet for the remainder of the group games?

Tempting though this is, I don't think that I can preach about snipers and machine-gunners and then adopt this strategy.
Is there any specific game where you think this is likely to happen and in which order? For instance, is there a high-scoring team that is susceptible to conceding early goals yet needs to win to qualify?
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« Reply #9023 on: June 17, 2012, 04:23:33 PM »

Anyone having trouble using Betfair today? Keep getting a swhirly loading thing.

not from me, but really wish i did have them issues today, wudda saved me a mint
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« Reply #9024 on: June 17, 2012, 04:26:12 PM »

Thanks for all the thoughts on corners for Netherlands v Portugal.
I'm not really a football buff so please bear with me while I think out loud.

These are the circumstances:
In a bog standard match both teams are likely to obtain a high number of corners.
Netherlands need to win by two goals and hope Germany beat Denmark to qualify so they should be in attacking mode (if they are logical). They have indicated that they are picking an attacking team.
Portugal need to do better than Denmark to qualify.
Both games are played concurrently so it may be a risky strategy for Portugal to play for a draw.
Our biggest risk is that Germany go ahead early against Denmark and Portugal are aware of this.

Is this right?

StanJames are evens for > 11.5 corners. Is this the best number to go for?
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« Reply #9025 on: June 17, 2012, 04:35:25 PM »

StanJames are evens for > 11.5 corners. Is this the best number to go for?


I think it's an ok bet for interest, but not necessarily huge value.
Feels like it's priced up about right to me at evens or just under.
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« Reply #9026 on: June 17, 2012, 04:38:21 PM »

also don't think the value is there, but boyles are 11/8 for over 12....slightly more value, but need the extra 1 corner.

certainly wouldn't go mad on it
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« Reply #9027 on: June 17, 2012, 05:06:36 PM »

also don't think the value is there, but boyles are 11/8 for over 12....slightly more value, but need the extra 1 corner.

certainly wouldn't go mad on it

My current thinking is £40 on this.
I'll await a response from gainsayers before placing the bet.
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« Reply #9028 on: June 17, 2012, 05:16:53 PM »

Six group games left and there may be some mileage in the Half Time / Full Time markets.

To back both options of Team A / Team B and also Team B / Team A - you are looking at odds of around 33s and 33s, or 33s and 40s, or 33s and 50s depending on who is playing.


In the Group Stages of the 2008 Euros there were 3.
In the Group Stages of the 2004 Euros there were 4.
In the Group Stages of the 2012 Euros there have been 0.

Due to the nature of these remaining games, I hope to hit one. I've done it in the last couple of games but with no success, although if the cards fall right you can 'make'.

I am not sure what to suggest stakewise for this bet? and you could easily argue that the previous sample size was a bit low? however could be a fun split small stakes bet for the remainder of the group games?

Tempting though this is, I don't think that I can preach about snipers and machine-gunners and then adopt this strategy.
Is there any specific game where you think this is likely to happen and in which order? For instance, is there a high-scoring team that is susceptible to conceding early goals yet needs to win to qualify?


thats fair enough mere pretty hard to pinpoint the games were it may happen personally im throwing a few quid on the rest of the games but accept if the thread money doesnt
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« Reply #9029 on: June 17, 2012, 05:19:28 PM »

Six group games left and there may be some mileage in the Half Time / Full Time markets.

To back both options of Team A / Team B and also Team B / Team A - you are looking at odds of around 33s and 33s, or 33s and 40s, or 33s and 50s depending on who is playing.


In the Group Stages of the 2008 Euros there were 3.
In the Group Stages of the 2004 Euros there were 4.
In the Group Stages of the 2012 Euros there have been 0.

Due to the nature of these remaining games, I hope to hit one. I've done it in the last couple of games but with no success, although if the cards fall right you can 'make'.

I am not sure what to suggest stakewise for this bet? and you could easily argue that the previous sample size was a bit low? however could be a fun split small stakes bet for the remainder of the group games?

Tempting though this is, I don't think that I can preach about snipers and machine-gunners and then adopt this strategy.
Is there any specific game where you think this is likely to happen and in which order? For instance, is there a high-scoring team that is susceptible to conceding early goals yet needs to win to qualify?


thats fair enough mere pretty hard to pinpoint the games were it may happen personally im throwing a few quid on the rest of the games but accept if the thread money doesnt

Good luck.
I look forward to hearing how it works out. The odds do seem large.
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