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« Reply #9405 on: June 22, 2012, 03:31:52 PM »

Figured I would put this here to see if anyone can help me out in understanding a few things!

European GP - Qual/Winner Double
Lay (Bet against) Any Other Combination - 4.5

The combinations listed consist of these drivers: Vettel/Hamilton/Alonso/Rosberg/Raikkonen/Grosjean

So if we lay the bet we are betting that one of the above will get pole because if they dont we end up paying out!
Am I correct in thinking we are in essence backing one of the above drivers to get pole @ 1.285?

Have I worked this out correctly?
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« Reply #9406 on: June 22, 2012, 03:52:30 PM »

Figured I would put this here to see if anyone can help me out in understanding a few things!

European GP - Qual/Winner Double
Lay (Bet against) Any Other Combination - 4.5

The combinations listed consist of these drivers: Vettel/Hamilton/Alonso/Rosberg/Raikkonen/Grosjean

So if we lay the bet we are betting that one of the above will get pole because if they dont we end up paying out!
Am I correct in thinking we are in essence backing one of the above drivers to get pole @ 1.285?

Have I worked this out correctly?

No - they have to get pole and win the race but your 1.28 calculation is basically correct although bear in mind the effect of commission on betfair.
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« Reply #9407 on: June 22, 2012, 04:08:44 PM »

Bet365 has another of those £50 free in running bets for the England Italy quarter final on Sunday.
I know Tikay didn't really like the 1st one we did (Spain vs Italy) cos we didn't take enough time in deciding which side to take and in the end picked the wrong 'un. As I see it, it doesn't matter what side you take. If we accept that the prices are roughly correct then the only decision we needed to take was low variance (Spain @ 3/4), medium variance (draw @ 12/5) or high variance (Italy @ 4/1). We chose the 'wrong' one with Spain cos it lost but it was the right one cos Fred wanted lower variance due to recent losses. Right bet, wrong result. It happens.
Onto the England Italy match. 7/4 England, 2/1 draw, 15/8 Italy. Personally I'd flip England and Italys price but meh, maybe the prices are rock solid correct. So pick whatever you like and then have your stake doubled. You've got a great bet, whatever you choose.
As £50 is a large bet for my bankroll I did the very low variance of under 2.5 goals in the Spain Italy game @ 1/2, which just squeeked home. In this match I'll be taking Italy + 0.5 @ 1.475 but for Fred with his limitless bankroll Smiley I'd advise the draw which ties in with Pulleins 42% draws in knockout games.

Recommendation: £50 draw @ 2/1 + £50 draw in running.
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« Reply #9408 on: June 22, 2012, 04:12:32 PM »

Bet365 has another of those £50 free in running bets for the England Italy quarter final on Sunday.
I know Tikay didn't really like the 1st one we did (Spain vs Italy) cos we didn't take enough time in deciding which side to take and in the end picked the wrong 'un. As I see it, it doesn't matter what side you take. If we accept that the prices are roughly correct then the only decision we needed to take was low variance (Spain @ 3/4), medium variance (draw @ 12/5) or high variance (Italy @ 4/1). We chose the 'wrong' one with Spain cos it lost but it was the right one cos Fred wanted lower variance due to recent losses. Right bet, wrong result. It happens.
Onto the England Italy match. 7/4 England, 2/1 draw, 15/8 Italy. Personally I'd flip England and Italys price but meh, maybe the prices are rock solid correct. So pick whatever you like and then have your stake doubled. You've got a great bet, whatever you choose.
As £50 is a large bet for my bankroll I did the very low variance of under 2.5 goals in the Spain Italy game @ 1/2, which just squeeked home. In this match I'll be taking Italy + 0.5 @ 1.475 but for Fred with his limitless bankroll Smiley I'd advise the draw which ties in with Pulleins 42% draws in knockout games.

Recommendation: £50 draw @ 2/1 + £50 draw in running.

Thanks for posting in plenty of time.
Fred will definitely be going £50 + £50.
We just need to decide which bet now.
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« Reply #9409 on: June 22, 2012, 04:16:58 PM »

Agree on draw rec for the £50+50
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« Reply #9410 on: June 22, 2012, 04:37:56 PM »

For the angle shooters amongst us - victor have the 'draw (germany +3)' on their handicap betting market priced incorrectly at 100/1. It will get voided but hey ho, you never know.
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« Reply #9411 on: June 22, 2012, 04:46:18 PM »

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« Reply #9412 on: June 22, 2012, 05:16:18 PM »

I think we should back Andre Schurrle to score first in the Germany v Greece game - 9/1 with VC.

scored 7 in 16 app for the national team, decent record at club level.

Should be more like podolski 11/2 kind of price.

He looks likely to start by the way unless its a big bluff, if he doesn't start i doubt he gets on the pitch unless they've already scored.
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« Reply #9413 on: June 22, 2012, 05:18:06 PM »

I just told someone to take the 14/1 with Stan James.  I think that is value.  It is close at 9/1 imo but probably just about value.
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« Reply #9414 on: June 22, 2012, 05:18:24 PM »

So far our most solid recommendation is < 2.5 goals.
Current best price of 1.95.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/internationals/euro-2012/germany-v-greece/over-under-2.5

Any gainsayers?
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« Reply #9415 on: June 22, 2012, 05:23:23 PM »

Greece +1.5 1.98>Schurle @ 14/1 >Klose @ 9/2 fgs>Under 2.5 @ 1.95 for me.
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« Reply #9416 on: June 22, 2012, 05:24:47 PM »

raphael honigstein ‏@honigstein
unconfirmed GER: Neuer - Boateng, Hummels, Badstuber, Lahm - Schweini, Khedira - Reus, Özil, Schürrle - Klose

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« Reply #9417 on: June 22, 2012, 05:27:26 PM »

raphael honigstein ‏@honigstein
unconfirmed GER: Neuer - Boateng, Hummels, Badstuber, Lahm - Schweini, Khedira - Reus, Özil, Schürrle - Klose



Given the sources (Bild etc) i would bet 1/25 that is the team.........
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« Reply #9418 on: June 22, 2012, 05:27:49 PM »

reus first scorer my only play here
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« Reply #9419 on: June 22, 2012, 05:28:18 PM »

raphael honigstein ‏@honigstein
unconfirmed GER: Neuer - Boateng, Hummels, Badstuber, Lahm - Schweini, Khedira - Reus, Özil, Schürrle - Klose



Given the sources (Bild etc) i would bet 1/25 that is the team.........

so would i raph is a good egg
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