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[DungBeetle]

Well England's bright start has suddenly escalated to a required rate of over 14 !

[arbboy]

Everyone very touchy today on a quiet mudane wednesday afternoon.  Anyone would think we have all bought total sips in the speech at 3.5 for £5k a sip!!!! We had a couple of small budget good things go south and dodged another loser on the tie colour.  Hardly the end of the world and enough to be falling out over esp as every one shortened in price to what we backed it at.

[Nico29]

Yikes.

My mini-post about betting on trivia markets was intended merely in jest. I did not expect a fall-out over it.

Dom, keep putting that sort of stuff up, please.

I'd have got on @ 16/1, but not at 8/1, as you concurred.

Weather's been a lot better today though, don't you think?

Haha I know it was.

And I meant to say that I am that man who bets on the flies up the wall+even frock's!

Personally I like betting on these markets if only because I feel no emotional attachment-something I struggle with in Football and Horse racing for example.

My judgement is often clouded whereas in fly v fly I don't care who wins as long as money is down!

Sorry for the de-rail. I bite too much.

[Marky147]

Adz was larging it in Vegas a couple weeks ago, and then had a few days bowling around Cheltenham with the Western Warhorse raiding party!

Reality has probably set in now, and I'd probably have the hump too

Everyone very touchy today on a quiet mudane wednesday afternoon.  Anyone would think we have all bought total sips in the speech at 3.5 for £5k a sip!!!! We had a couple of small budget good things go south and dodged another loser on the tie colour.  Hardly the end of the world and enough to be falling out over esp as every one shortened in price to what we backed it at.

 

[rfgqqabc]

Did they shorten because the price was wrong or did they shorten because we all backed it? I believe Tal meant it is hard to get much more than a score on in these novelty markets Doobs, rather than the actual stake. Who knows though, he is an enigma!

[BigAdz]

Yes Mark, I have the 'ump.....lol

Tidal Bay.

16-1 for the National which, as a contest, is looking weaker and weaker at every turn. He has been given a major favour in terms of handicapping, and is becoming a racing favourite of many people. Surely he will go off single figures?

If so should we be considering a Chompy back to lay?

[tikay]

Completely understand Tal.

I must confess to finding amusing that several people who probably listen to one political speech a year can make a value statement on a word being used from 16-1 to 8-1. Hardly a bunch of parliamentry experts are we?!

Fred has developed a habit of accepting almost every bet offered these days. When I first joined around two plus, years ago, I had numerous bets knocked back, as did several others, rightly or wrongly, but Fred was profitable as a result then. At the moment he is almost in financial freefall and very little is changing to stop the rot. Not my money, admittedly, and I can choose the stuff I follow, but my  its my favourite read on the net, so I do feel a touch of ownership.

I will be the first to admit I have yet to make a positive contribution this year with none of my few bets winning, but all have been well researched, and I would put them all up again. They ain't just guesses.

I would suggest that a few conclusions can be drawn from that.

No doubt I might have put a few noses out of joint, so excuse me, no harm intended.  


I also say this as one of a few people that backed a 100-1 jobbie in the speech last year .....but I keep my degen stuff off Fred!

I'm not sure that is true, Adzy. For starters, I miss half the bets put up due to time pressure! Others can get or, or not, as they wish though. 7 different Recommends for the Budget Speech were proposed. Fred backed just one of them. Sometimes I have to reject things "silently". No reply can mean thanks but no thanks.....

The idea is that folks put stuff up, & others critique it. If they don't, the decision is left with me. I accept full responsibility for that, & use my own money.
And of course, just because Fred gets on, nobody else is forced to. That's the whole thing, everyone can cherry-pick what they thing is good.

As most know, my workload elsewhere has increased enormously of late, what with UKPC, and what has since taken place because of it's success.   

I've stated several times that it's difficult for me to cope at the moment, & if anyone else wants to take my place, I'd be very grateful, & would assist as much as able.

Tighty has offered, repeatedly, & I don't mind that method, if we all agree, but that has complications - he'd have to use my Accounts, most of which are Restricted now. 

It's all quite a puzzle as to what to do for the best. But if we enjoy the thread enough, we ought to be able to work together & help find the solution, working as a team, with everyone contributing ideas which might assist.

I'm reasonably sure that the last 2 months have just been variance kicking in. We ran outrageously well in 2013. And of course, just because Fred gets on, nobody else is forced to. That's the whole thing, everyone can cherry-pick what they thing is good.

We certainly don't need to do is fall out with each other.

Ps - Well done on the 100/1 winner in last years Budget Speech. How did you get that though without any aftertiming jibes? You don't 'arf run good. 

[tikay]

Yes Mark, I have the 'ump.....lol

Tidal Bay.

16-1 for the National which, as a contest, is looking weaker and weaker at every turn. He has been given a major favour in terms of handicapping, and is becoming a racing favourite of many people. Surely he will go off single figures?

If so should we be considering a Chompy back to lay?

Thanks Adzy.

Here's the market.


http://www.oddschecker.com/grand-national/winner

Back to Lay?

I'll do whatever, but I need someone to seriously hold my hand on Betfair Laying, I get in a bit of a 2 & 8 with it, so you need to spell it out, & use short words please.

[tikay]

Everyone very touchy today on a quiet mudane wednesday afternoon.  Anyone would think we have all bought total sips in the speech at 3.5 for £5k a sip!!!! We had a couple of small budget good things go south and dodged another loser on the tie colour.  Hardly the end of the world and enough to be falling out over esp as every one shortened in price to what we backed it at.

Yup - & on Tal's Birthday, too!

Big happy Birthday to our Chess, Frock & Dancing Corry, Mr Posh Bloke & Resident Spurs Fan, Mr Tal.

[horseplayer]

If some bets that were accepted had been confirmed then the spreadsheet would be looking fine

not having a go as it was not intentional but that alone explains alot of the downswing

[Doobs]

Yes Mark, I have the 'ump.....lol

Tidal Bay.

16-1 for the National which, as a contest, is looking weaker and weaker at every turn. He has been given a major favour in terms of handicapping, and is becoming a racing favourite of many people. Surely he will go off single figures?

If so should we be considering a Chompy back to lay?

Thanks Adzy.

Here's the market.


http://www.oddschecker.com/grand-national/winner

Back to Lay?

I'll do whatever, but I need someone to seriously hold my hand on Betfair Laying, I get in a bit of a 2 & 8 with it, so you need to spell it out, & use short words please.

If you going to back to lay, do we do the back on Betfair?  Assume we miss NRNB, but it simplifies things.

I don't know about racing favourite of many, sure as many still think it is a dog

[tikay]

If some bets that were accepted had been confirmed then the spreadsheet would be looking fine

not having a go as it was not intentional but that alone explains alot of the downswing

Ha!

Also true.

Over £450 last week alone. 

[tikay]

Yes Mark, I have the 'ump.....lol

Tidal Bay.

16-1 for the National which, as a contest, is looking weaker and weaker at every turn. He has been given a major favour in terms of handicapping, and is becoming a racing favourite of many people. Surely he will go off single figures?

If so should we be considering a Chompy back to lay?

Thanks Adzy.

Here's the market.


http://www.oddschecker.com/grand-national/winner

Back to Lay?

I'll do whatever, but I need someone to seriously hold my hand on Betfair Laying, I get in a bit of a 2 & 8 with it, so you need to spell it out, & use short words please.

If you going to back to lay, do we do the back on Betfair?  Assume we miss NRNB, but it simplifies things.

I don't know about racing favourite of many, sure as many still think it is a dog

Honestly, I've no idea. That is why I Posted the Oddschecker link, & asked for a bit of help.

I'm all ears.

[Doobs]

Did they shorten because the price was wrong or did they shorten because we all backed it? I believe Tal meant it is hard to get much more than a score on in these novelty markets Doobs, rather than the actual stake. Who knows though, he is an enigma!

Agree on the reason for the price shortening.

Think in novelty markets, it really depends on the bookie/market.  I had thousands on Strictly overall, you can do the same on Big Brother and hundreds was easy enough on Splash.  If you are betting with Ladbrokes in a market only they offer prices, tenner max isn't a surprise.

[Doobs]

Yes Mark, I have the 'ump.....lol

Tidal Bay.

16-1 for the National which, as a contest, is looking weaker and weaker at every turn. He has been given a major favour in terms of handicapping, and is becoming a racing favourite of many people. Surely he will go off single figures?

If so should we be considering a Chompy back to lay?

Thanks Adzy.

Here's the market.


http://www.oddschecker.com/grand-national/winner

Back to Lay?

I'll do whatever, but I need someone to seriously hold my hand on Betfair Laying, I get in a bit of a 2 & 8 with it, so you need to spell it out, & use short words please.

If you going to back to lay, do we do the back on Betfair?  Assume we miss NRNB, but it simplifies things.

I don't know about racing favourite of many, sure as many still think it is a dog

Honestly, I've no idea. That is why I Posted the Oddschecker link, & asked for a bit of help.

I'm all ears.

I am asking Adz really, it is probably what I'd do if I believed what he believes on his horse.