Tips for Tikay

[aaron1867]

It's a forum, we all have different opinions? No?

I really do not mind Adz, not a fanboy or anything. But I really don't understand why people dislike him/what he says so much? (Maybe you/others will say why)

If we have people leaving the forum, then the forum will continue to be on it's back. Whether people agree or not about this forum, if it wasn't for this this thread, this forum would have so little posts a day. So then where would we be?

[Doobs]

Personal again??? Lol seriously can you not just debate the point? Ill leave it as tikay and tighty have asked me to. But the reason i stopped posting here was down to your trolling alone. One day you will scare everyone off. Wp.

Oh dear.

I really don't think anyone has stopped posting because of me.

It would be great to continue this "Battle of Wits" with you Nico, but sadly you have come unarmed.

Well I have pretty much stopped posting on here because of your vitriolic personal attacks after each and every perceived insult.

Ralph.

Very much like Nico, if you start it, don't expect me to lie down and take it. It doesn't work lie that in my world.

I have plenty of messages saying I should ignore your insults, so it's all about which side of the fence you are on really isn't it.

It won't take me long to trawl through to find an insult from you that I react to and you then claim I'm sensitive.

I can't be too sensitive to a compliment now can I?

Prove it.

I have never insulted you personally ever.

Sigh.

With 16k plus posts, I have neither the time or inclination to go through and find examples.

However I recall a couple of weeks ago on the redarmi staking thread, a similar scenario to today, where Nico pops up and slags me off and shortly after you pop up and start suggesting you would love to see me get a whooping from Kmac. Admittedly, not a personal insult, but we get the gist.

Now I read Arbboys synopsis, and I just can't be bothered any more. Punting with the people that "play" on here is no longer fun. Sorry Tighty/Tikay, but I could send you plenty of messages from others who agree, regardless of what the Arbbies may think.
 
Pretty sure if you go across the last 3 years in the golf, racing and TFT threads, there is no one close to producing the results that I have. Sadly because they aren't "perfect" bets, I am obviously a terrible and losing punter. The numbers suggest otherwise, but that doesn't make the story fit does it? You suggest I am "preaching bad bets". There is only one bloke preaching every day, I simply put up fancies, and keep the stakes a lot smaller than I actually bet, as I am aware that they don't fit the perfect profile, but people may actually like to punt a decent priced winner.

There are still plenty of Blondes suggesting non perfect bets on TFT, but they don't get the Arbboy treatment. It probably riles him that year after year I keep producing the long priced wnners, not because I know some maths, but because I do the homework. But according to Arbboy you can't possibly win spending hundreds of hours a months actually watching racing/studying form and having some decent contacts, if you don't use the maths...oh no!! LOL.

I have to laugh at statements like "tries to use the same moves in the big leagues". Is that really what you think this is? You are a very deluded man, but then you do class Redarmi as a close and loyal friend, so that probably speaks more about you than the wisdom you speak on betting.

Then I get blamed for everyone leaving. Just a frigging joke. The only worthwhile person that has left here, that wasn't trying to make a fast buck out of us all, was bobby1, hounded off by same said redarmi and his sidekicks, iirc.     Pretty much every thread on here these days that has aggro in it, has the same person in the middle, but T&T seem oblivious to it, or happy to trade the upset, in exchange for view/post counts.

Anyway, time to take a back step and leave the place to Arbboy, to keep patting himself on the back suggesting inspired bets like Djoc at Wimbledon, and Ando in the Matchplay, and innumerable long odds on shots that 95% of the "big league" wouldn't/couldn't bother with. Soon be time for the Premier League trebles, All hail the hero.

No doubt with me no longer contributing all these "players" will return, or maybe they have gone skint too......?

Its good to know that "I have no problem with adz", because I hate to think of the nice things you would have to say about me if you did.




Anyway, enough already.See you in a few months..maybe.

Please be a man of your word and disappear.  Give the place a chance to get back to how it used to be full of judges who know the game so everyone can get richer long term.  Sorry to say i make it 1/10 we see adz in the next week and 8/1 he sticks to his word!  Maybe the 1/10 is value.  Give it three months if the proper judges don't come back with you away i will leave anyway.  Hopefully your disappearance will, according to my moles, help get tft back to the intelligence levels that used to exist at the start.   You can still be the hero your natural level exists for if you start playing pub poker.  You can get your kicks there. 

I would really like all the posters who tell me what i am saying is what they think but they don't want to rock the boat to actually post it rather than just tell me privately then adz might get the message.  6 punters tonight have all said it.  How many more are needed?

All the best.

I find it quite amazing that you ask people to disappear after your word seems to have maybe cost someone else thousands. I am also quite bored of the foul language used on here too, people have probably been banned for worse.

I like Adz, his bets. As Tikay says, this is just a bit of fun. It's nobody elses thread to tell someone else that they are not welcome, or in fact, are making others post less.

It's quite clear if you Chompy, Doobs, & Co, are getting irate about this thread, then you definitely need a life check.

You never miss an opportunity to put the boot in, but suggest you reread my posts from yesterday.

[TightEnd]

can everyone just draw a line under this now please?

on this thread i am interested in knowing tips, reading analysis, hearing suggestions and most importantly having fun.

I know some people don't get on with some other people, thats inevitable and has been bubbling under with occasional eruptions on the surface for about 18 months now but we (collectively) appear to have lost the capacity for tolerance and turning the other cheek

now is one of those times to regain that capacity please, and we can get back on track

i was mostly ignored late yesterday afternoon, and would rather this gentle message wasn't ignored too.



goodwood/cricket/upcoming football season/rugby world cup/darts/dogs/rugby league/f1/politics even reality tv and the weather..i am all ears and i am sure tikay is too

the other stuff..not all ears!

thanks

[DungBeetle]

Tighty - see my post on Saints and Iron's reply - fear it may have been lost during the rows!

Let me know your thoughs.

[TightEnd]

Tighty - see my post on Saints and Iron's reply - fear it may have been lost during the rows!

Let me know your thoughs.

yes i saw it, sorry

last season they got 60 points so some modest regression is built in at 56

Schneiderlin is a big though expected loss. i am racking my brains i saw a piece on their points/performances with him and Wanyama playing together last season compared to when one was missing. of course i can't remember where it was now

we can do a fiver a point if you wish.

i don't see them at 40 points, and probably not 65 so i'm not too excited about it really, tbh. loomks a fair enough quote

[Omm]

Tighty - see my post on Saints and Iron's reply - fear it may have been lost during the rows!

Let me know your thoughs.

Look like some interesting spots yo have put up recently Dung, I haven't done spread betting before so sorry if this question is very stupid but I'll ask it anyway, when I place the bet (spread) do I have to have the funds in the account to cover the worse possible outcome or is it done on credit?

[aaron1867]

can everyone just draw a line under this now please?

Should you not be taking control of it? You are the moderator after all, but let you seem to let one user, as it would seem, to be bullied off the forum. Yet you also seem to allow the continuous poor language be used on the forum too, yes we are all adults, but some of us don't like to see it.

It's not only this matter either, you just seem to let other users get antagonised/patronised, but let it go

I could go on, but the longer you ignore it, the more likely it will just boil over again and again

it's a forum, arboy, chompy, etc, they are not in charge, but it would seem like it

[DungBeetle]

Tighty - see my post on Saints and Iron's reply - fear it may have been lost during the rows!

Let me know your thoughs.

yes i saw it, sorry

last season they got 60 points so some modest regression is built in at 56

Schneiderlin is a big though expected loss. i am racking my brains i saw a piece on their points/performances with him and Wanyama playing together last season compared to when one was missing. of course i can't remember where it was now

we can do a fiver a point if you wish.

i don't see them at 40 points, and probably not 65 so i'm not too excited about it really, tbh. loomks a fair enough quote

My position is much smaller than the Watford one, so I'll leave it up to you.  If you're not excited might be worth Fred leaving it for the admin.  Anyone -consider me on call for any spread positions fred might want to take.

[DungBeetle]

Tighty - see my post on Saints and Iron's reply - fear it may have been lost during the rows!

Let me know your thoughs.

Look like some interesting spots yo have put up recently Dung, I haven't done spread betting before so sorry if this question is very stupid but I'll ask it anyway, when I place the bet (spread) do I have to have the funds in the account to cover the worse possible outcome or is it done on credit?

I think it varies hugely account to account.  If you want an official "credit" account then you need to show proof of funds 4x the credit limit you want.  Deposit accounts vary between needing to cover max loss, to needing to cover a percentage of loss, to just need enough in the account to cover your open position value.  I think it depends how well they know you are your capacity for settling losses.  Peter might be better to ask as he just opened a fresh account and made a chunky F1 bet so will know the terms on new accounts.

I've had my account since the mid 90s, so they pretty much leave me to my own devices.  I used to punt like a merryman in my younger days and racked up some outrageous losses and I always settled promptly so I think I have an unoffical triple A credit line even though it's a deposit account.  I always came up with good trades, but it was my weakness for wanting to bet on every market that got me in trouble (a leak I have mostly removed but still occasionally happens if I'm watching a big sporting event and the beer is flowing!)

[Omm]

Tighty - see my post on Saints and Iron's reply - fear it may have been lost during the rows!

Let me know your thoughs.

Look like some interesting spots yo have put up recently Dung, I haven't done spread betting before so sorry if this question is very stupid but I'll ask it anyway, when I place the bet (spread) do I have to have the funds in the account to cover the worse possible outcome or is it done on credit?

I think it varies hugely account to account.  If you want an official "credit" account then you need to show proof of funds 4x the credit limit you want.  Deposit accounts vary between needing to cover max loss, to needing to cover a percentage of loss, to just need enough in the account to cover your open position value.  I think it depends how well they know you are your capacity for settling losses.  Peter might be better to ask as he just opened a fresh account and made a chunky F1 bet so will know the terms on new accounts.

I've had my account since the mid 90s, so they pretty much leave me to my own devices.  I used to punt like a merryman in my younger days and racked up some outrageous losses and I always settled promptly so I think I have an unoffical triple A credit line even though it's a deposit account.  I always came up with good trades, but it was my weakness for wanting to bet on every market that got me in trouble (a leak I have mostly removed but still occasionally happens if I'm watching a big sporting event and the beer is flowing!)

Would you say your default betting strategy is to do spreads over conventional betting, can there be more value to be had? Is it quite specialist?

[TightEnd]

can everyone just draw a line under this now please?

Should you not be taking control of it? You are the moderator after all, but let you seem to let one user, as it would seem, to be bullied off the forum. Yet you also seem to allow the continuous poor language be used on the forum too, yes we are all adults, but some of us don't like to see it.

It's not only this matter either, you just seem to let other users get antagonised/patronised, but let it go

I could go on, but the longer you ignore it, the more likely it will just boil over again and again

it's a forum, arboy, chompy, etc, they are not in charge, but it would seem like it

In a no win situation

I know to my cost that when i have got involved with some of the characters involved...sending PMs, deleting posts etc, dealing with every bit of bad language, trying to keep the peace, mediate etc i have had to write off whole days dealing with the aftermath. i just can't do that i have too much going on, and i am sure no other moderator has the appetite for it either

we banned someone last year (don't ask) and it was harder work than him being on the forum. i think the tally was 27 emails..long emails..we ignored some but then the question came "why are you ignoring my emails" and he sent some more....

I ask again for people to turn the other cheek, agree to disagree and if you can't get on then don't feel the need to respond to the person. if that means you don't want to post, don't post. life will go on.

[DungBeetle]

Tighty - see my post on Saints and Iron's reply - fear it may have been lost during the rows!

Let me know your thoughs.

Look like some interesting spots yo have put up recently Dung, I haven't done spread betting before so sorry if this question is very stupid but I'll ask it anyway, when I place the bet (spread) do I have to have the funds in the account to cover the worse possible outcome or is it done on credit?

I think it varies hugely account to account.  If you want an official "credit" account then you need to show proof of funds 4x the credit limit you want.  Deposit accounts vary between needing to cover max loss, to needing to cover a percentage of loss, to just need enough in the account to cover your open position value.  I think it depends how well they know you are your capacity for settling losses.  Peter might be better to ask as he just opened a fresh account and made a chunky F1 bet so will know the terms on new accounts.

I've had my account since the mid 90s, so they pretty much leave me to my own devices.  I used to punt like a merryman in my younger days and racked up some outrageous losses and I always settled promptly so I think I have an unoffical triple A credit line even though it's a deposit account.  I always came up with good trades, but it was my weakness for wanting to bet on every market that got me in trouble (a leak I have mostly removed but still occasionally happens if I'm watching a big sporting event and the beer is flowing!)

Would you say your default betting strategy is to do spreads over conventional betting, can there be more value to be had? Is it quite specialist?

It is for me but I think the spreads are quite wide and hard to beat over the long term.  I just enjoy it more.  I just find you get more value from your bets - for example if I fancy Man City to win the league and buy their points, even if Chelsea run away with it, it still matters for the bet if they win matches at the end of the season or not whereas with a fixed bet it's gone and of no interest.

Cashflow is also important - my £200 a point Watford point is effecitvely a £2.5k bet (approx) but I only had to deposit £500 to get it on.  If I put £2.5k on Watford to stay up fixed odds then I need to stump it up straight away (I know the dynamics are different, but generally spread betting ties up less cash at the start if your credit is good).

Of course the big downside is you don't know how much you are on the hook for, and that is the reason most people don't like doing it.  It takes time to understand the volatility in some of the markets - 10 years ago some of my stakes were far too high on some of the abstract markets and my variance was far more than I anticipated.

I think there are stop loss account in operation these days, but I don't know how they work as I've never looked into it.

As for value, I'd say there is probably generally less but one thing I would say is when they make a rick they'll let you get on and stand by their viewpoint.  I think they have more integrity than fixed odds firms - that is just my opinion of course.

[Chompy]

can everyone just draw a line under this now please?

Should you not be taking control of it? You are the moderator after all, but let you seem to let one user, as it would seem, to be bullied off the forum. Yet you also seem to allow the continuous poor language be used on the forum too, yes we are all adults, but some of us don't like to see it.

It's not only this matter either, you just seem to let other users get antagonised/patronised, but let it go

I could go on, but the longer you ignore it, the more likely it will just boil over again and again

it's a forum, arboy, chompy, etc, they are not in charge, but it would seem like it

[hector62]

Morning Tighty.

Tomorrow sees the first rugby league cup semi final with Leeds playing St Helens. I am not at all sure who will win this one, both sides have weaknesses and it should be a great battle to watch. Generally in this game I wouldn't be going for a try scorer bet as it could be a low scoring game, but Ladbrokes have mispriced a St Helens player. Joe Greenwood is a young forward in only his 2nd season. He has only played 12 games this season, as he has been injured, but has played the last 4 weeks. In his 12 matches he has scored 8 tries and is a very similar player to Ben Currie in that he takes good lines, and obviously has a nose for the try line. Most firms have him at 9/4 but we can get 7/2 with Ladbrokes which makes it a bet.

Suggest £15 Joe Greenwood anytime try scorer @ 7/2 with Ladbrokes.


I wouldn't put anyone off going for Cuthbertson to be MOTM @ 22's with Hills either.

[TightEnd]

Morning Tighty.

Tomorrow sees the first rugby league cup semi final with Leeds playing St Helens. I am not at all sure who will win this one, both sides have weaknesses and it should be a great battle to watch. Generally in this game I wouldn't be going for a try scorer bet as it could be a low scoring game, but Ladbrokes have mispriced a St Helens player. Joe Greenwood is a young forward in only his 2nd season. He has only played 12 games this season, as he has been injured, but has played the last 4 weeks. In his 12 matches he has scored 8 tries and is a very similar player to Ben Currie in that he takes good lines, and obviously has a nose for the try line. Most firms have him at 9/4 but we can get 7/2 with Ladbrokes which makes it a bet.

Suggest £15 Joe Greenwood anytime try scorer @ 7/2 with Ladbrokes.


I wouldn't put anyone off going for Cuthbertson to be MOTM @ 22's with Hills either.

Single
Leeds Rhinos v St Helens Ladbrokes Challenge Cup
Joe Greenwood (St Helens)
To score a try at any time
Odds: 7/2
1 line at £14.29
Total stake for this bet: £14.29
Potential return: £64.31
Time: 30/07/2015 10:46:51
Receipt No: O/142640973/0000951
Total Stake
£14.29
Total potential return
£64.31

that was the limit. £14.29.