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[Rubbish2407]

Australia were lucky against Wales. Had Scott Williams, Jonathan Davies or Cory Allen been fit then I honestly believe we would have won. Had Wales been playing against Argentina then I think, on a neutral venue, Wales would have been slight favourites, 4/5 - 5/4 - 20/1 the draw.
Australia were very lucky against Scotland. No point harping on about it, had the last minute decision been made in the first minute then nobody would have mentioned it. It wasn't though and Scotland were out. Had they not been then I would have made Argentina favourites against them, maybe 4/7 - 7/4 - 20/1.
I can't for the life of me see how Argentina are 5/2 against Australia tomorrow?
Okay, Hooper missed the Welsh game and Pocock missed the Scottish game. Both are playing but Argentina did beat them this time last year and won out in South Africa recently so are clearly a team on the up.
Suggest £25 at 5/2 with Smarkets, if you haven't got an account and want some of mine let me know.

fwiw I think Australia will cover, easily. I love Argentina this time but they're not in the race Aussie's -6 is max imo

Any reasons for this bullish statement?

Couple of Scotch's kicking in early before the Eubank fight is fav. 

Possibly.

For 60 minutes of the first World Cup match Argentina owned New Zealand. Australia have had two really hard matches and have a question mark over Pococks fitness. Argentina have no injury concerns and have coasted through their last four matches. Seo is missing from the Australian front row which is also a massive loss.

How exactly is Australia -6 a max job?

[Peter-27]

After three hours of waiting, F1 qualifying has been postponed until 2PM UK time tomorrow, when we'll try again.

The forecast for qualifying happening then still looks unlikely .. we can but try!

Will review the markets tomorrow morning (UK time).

[arbboy]

tbf Kukus didn't put me off steaming into SF on thurs night with his bullish statement so i do owe him a drink.  

[Rubbish2407]

tbf Kukus didn't put me off steaming into SF on thurs night with his bullish statement so i do owe him a drink.  

Okay. I've listed reasons why Fred should have a £25 bet. He's saying everyone should have a max bet on the opposite outcome. Hope Dubai pitches up on here with a photo of a £125,000 betting slip and Australia cover.

[kukushkin88]

Australia were lucky against Wales. Had Scott Williams, Jonathan Davies or Cory Allen been fit then I honestly believe we would have won. Had Wales been playing against Argentina then I think, on a neutral venue, Wales would have been slight favourites, 4/5 - 5/4 - 20/1 the draw.
Australia were very lucky against Scotland. No point harping on about it, had the last minute decision been made in the first minute then nobody would have mentioned it. It wasn't though and Scotland were out. Had they not been then I would have made Argentina favourites against them, maybe 4/7 - 7/4 - 20/1.
I can't for the life of me see how Argentina are 5/2 against Australia tomorrow?
Okay, Hooper missed the Welsh game and Pocock missed the Scottish game. Both are playing but Argentina did beat them this time last year and won out in South Africa recently so are clearly a team on the up.
Suggest £25 at 5/2 with Smarkets, if you haven't got an account and want some of mine let me know.

fwiw I think Australia will cover, easily. I love Argentina this time but they're not in the race Aussie's -6 is max imo

Any reasons for this bullish statement?

Couple of Scotch's kicking in early before the Eubank fight is fav. 

Possibly.

For 60 minutes of the first World Cup match Argentina owned New Zealand. Australia have had two really hard matches and have a question mark over Pococks fitness. Argentina have no injury concerns and have coasted through their last four matches. Seo is missing from the Australian front row which is also a massive loss.

How exactly is Australia -6 a max job?

Argentina were holding on desperately against for large parts against Ireland, Australia will defend wide very well and Pocock will be first there every time. Australia will win easily and Cheika is a legend.

[arbboy]

My previous post was wrong it should have read you did put me off smashing into sf.  I do massively respect your opinion on sports esp when you ride the waves against the popular view.  You are tempting me to smash into the Aussies tomorrow.  I def get your point. My only concern is the weather backing a jolly giving up decent points.

[arbboy]

Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal has no fresh injury concerns ahead of Sunday's derby.
Ashley Young is not ready to return from a calf problem and joins Paddy McNair and Luke Shaw on the sidelines.
Manchester City manager Manuel Pellegrini would not confirm whether Vincent Kompany will be recalled for his first club start in six weeks.
City remain without injured quintet David Silva, Sergio Aguero, Gael Clichy, Samir Nasri and Fabian Delph.

Simple question.  How are manure nearly 7/4 for this game at home?  Looks like Man city are a monster lay around 7/4 for me.  What am i missing?

Are you smashing into Man city at circa 8/13 for this game if they are at home with the same team news?  Really?

[pleno1]

Any love for palace 45/1 to get relegated. I think they likely to get smashed next 3 games and this price likely to
Drop dramatically as they go to lower mid table.  So even if it's bet to lay.

Pardew is awful manager who can't coach good attacking footballers. Defensively palace don't look so great and going forward they've scored one goal in open play in 6 games. He will slowly coach out all
Ability the team has. None of their 5 strikers have scored all season. All the teams around then have guys who are capable of scoring goals.

West brom and stoke beig 6/1 and palace being 45/1 doesn't sit right with me. If the fans who are usually amazing start turning on Pardews awful management then their fortress may not be so strong in a couple of months and with their upcoming fixtures they could go into the Christmas period that's very important with no confidence, fans who are starting to become unhappy at Pardews constant excuses and lack of any imagination.

Other teams below them in table

Swansea - have very very good chance of not being relegated, way more complete team than palace
West Brom - Pulis should grind out enough points
Stoke - too much talent

Teams that are likely to struggle

Sunderland
Villa
Bournemouth
Newcastle
Norwich
Watford

Of course it's not "likely" to happen but 45/1 seems pretty big.

[arbboy]

Any love for palace 45/1 to get relegated. I think they likely to get smashed next 3 games and this price likely to
Drop dramatically as they go to lower mid table.  So even if it's bet to lay.

Pardew is awful manager who can't coach good attacking footballers. Defensively palace don't look so great and going forward they've scored one goal in open play in 6 games. He will slowly coach out all
Ability the team has. None of their 5 strikers have scored all season. All the teams around then have guys who are capable of scoring goals.

West brom and stoke beig 6/1 and palace being 45/1 doesn't sit right with me. If the fans who are usually amazing start turning on Pardews awful management then their fortress may not be so strong in a couple of months and with their upcoming fixtures they could go into the Christmas period that's very important with no confidence, fans who are starting to become unhappy at Pardews constant excuses and lack of any imagination.

Other teams below them in table

Swansea - have very very good chance of not being relegated, way more complete team than palace
West Brom - Pulis should grind out enough points
Stoke - too much talent

Teams that are likely to struggle

Sunderland
Villa
Bournemouth
Newcastle
Norwich
Watford

Of course it's not "likely" to happen but 45/1 seems pretty big.

i agree.  people are asking for under 8/1 stoke to go down.  That is just an incredible lay.  Stoke literally can't go down in this league.  There is so much garbage in this league.  I am full bankroll wise at 2/7 stoke to stay up from 4 weeks ago.  If you have the bank roll just get stuck in.  Stoke must be a 25/1 shot to go down in this league.  amazing you can lay it at under 8/1.

[david3103]

Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal has no fresh injury concerns ahead of Sunday's derby.
Ashley Young is not ready to return from a calf problem and joins Paddy McNair and Luke Shaw on the sidelines.
Manchester City manager Manuel Pellegrini would not confirm whether Vincent Kompany will be recalled for his first club start in six weeks.
City remain without injured quintet David Silva, Sergio Aguero, Gael Clichy, Samir Nasri and Fabian Delph.

Simple question.  How are manure nearly 7/4 for this game at home?  Looks like Man city are a monster lay around 7/4 for me.  What am i missing?

Are you smashing into Man city at circa 8/13 for this game if they are at home with the same team news?  Really?

I'm nowhere near your level of understanding of what makes a value bet but I couldn't back either team in this. Both had a tough game on Wednesday but United had to travel back from Moscow while City were chilling.
Is home advantage a feature in a derby?

[swinebag22]

Manchester United manager Louis van Gaal has no fresh injury concerns ahead of Sunday's derby.
Ashley Young is not ready to return from a calf problem and joins Paddy McNair and Luke Shaw on the sidelines.
Manchester City manager Manuel Pellegrini would not confirm whether Vincent Kompany will be recalled for his first club start in six weeks.
City remain without injured quintet David Silva, Sergio Aguero, Gael Clichy, Samir Nasri and Fabian Delph.

Simple question.  How are manure nearly 7/4 for this game at home?  Looks like Man city are a monster lay around 7/4 for me.  What am i missing?

Are you smashing into Man city at circa 8/13 for this game if they are at home with the same team news?  Really?

Remind me again please

DO you convert away odds to home odds by adding a goal? i.e look at City's +0.5 odds?

[Rubbish2407]

Australia were lucky against Wales. Had Scott Williams, Jonathan Davies or Cory Allen been fit then I honestly believe we would have won. Had Wales been playing against Argentina then I think, on a neutral venue, Wales would have been slight favourites, 4/5 - 5/4 - 20/1 the draw.
Australia were very lucky against Scotland. No point harping on about it, had the last minute decision been made in the first minute then nobody would have mentioned it. It wasn't though and Scotland were out. Had they not been then I would have made Argentina favourites against them, maybe 4/7 - 7/4 - 20/1.
I can't for the life of me see how Argentina are 5/2 against Australia tomorrow?
Okay, Hooper missed the Welsh game and Pocock missed the Scottish game. Both are playing but Argentina did beat them this time last year and won out in South Africa recently so are clearly a team on the up.
Suggest £25 at 5/2 with Smarkets, if you haven't got an account and want some of mine let me know.

fwiw I think Australia will cover, easily. I love Argentina this time but they're not in the race Aussie's -6 is max imo

Any reasons for this bullish statement?

Couple of Scotch's kicking in early before the Eubank fight is fav.  

Possibly.

For 60 minutes of the first World Cup match Argentina owned New Zealand. Australia have had two really hard matches and have a question mark over Pococks fitness. Argentina have no injury concerns and have coasted through their last four matches. Seo is missing from the Australian front row which is also a massive loss.

How exactly is Australia -6 a max job?

Argentina were holding on desperately against for large parts against Ireland, Australia will defend wide very well and Pocock will be first there every time. Australia will win easily and Cheika is a legend.

Do you actually believe what you're writing? Hector, Alun, Tighty, feel free to back me up.

Argentina were holding on desperately against for large parts against Ireland

Ireland were 7 nil down after three minutes and seventeen nil down after thirteen minutes. Obviously, chasing the game, they were going to put Argentina under pressure. But the truth is Argentina's try line was threatened twice. That Ireland scored twice is worrying but at no time, other than the last two minutes, were Ireland camped on the Argentina try line. Ireland had 51% possession and 53% territory but made more tackles than Argentina. Most of the Irish possession in the Argentinian half was between the halfway and 25 metre line. I challenge you to watch the game again and tell me what minutes Argentina were desperately holding on e.g. between 27-36.

Australia will defend wide very well

Even when they beat New Zealand Milner Skudder scored two trys. Conrad Smith and Ma Nonu (2) scored when the All Blacks thrashed them. Even Watson for a bad English team scored. Wales never threatened out wide because North was in the Centre, we didn't have any wings and Jamie Roberts can't pass the ball. The two centres and a wing scored for Scotland. If the ball gets out to the backs Argentina will create chances. Twenty six trys already this tournament backs that statement up.

Pocock will be first there every time

Absolutely impossible that will happen. If he gets to the first breakdown he will not make it to the second breakdown first. Pocock and Hooper between them might get there first but Pocock wont on his own.

Australia will win easily

Your opinion based on facts above which are clearly incorrect.

Cheika is a legend

Examples please?

I can confirm that Steve Hansen is a legend. I worked at the WRU for twelve years and was there when Steve was. On his last day we all went for a pint in a place called bar Izit. He was there for a couple of hours and chatted to everyone before saying his goodbyes because he was on an early flight to New Zealand the next day and had to get to Heathrow. As was normal in those days the rest of our compatriots drunk up and were gone within five minutes of him leaving. I ran the ticket office and me and the four guys who worked with me enjoyed a drink. I went to the bar and the guy said "you're with the WRU aren't you, Steve left £500 behind the bar for you all". I looked around and there was only us five left. Happy days.

Obviously five of us couldn't drink £500 quids worth of cider but there were some Girls there celebrating a 21st Birthday. We joined them and bought a few bottles of Champagne and a load of cocktails. I ended up taking this beautiful blonde girl back to my mates house and all I can say is, Steve Hansen you absolute legend, thank you very much.

By the way, good luck on your bet, I wouldn't put anyone off following you in but please don't make up facts that aren't true.

[tikay]

Australia were lucky against Wales. Had Scott Williams, Jonathan Davies or Cory Allen been fit then I honestly believe we would have won. Had Wales been playing against Argentina then I think, on a neutral venue, Wales would have been slight favourites, 4/5 - 5/4 - 20/1 the draw.
Australia were very lucky against Scotland. No point harping on about it, had the last minute decision been made in the first minute then nobody would have mentioned it. It wasn't though and Scotland were out. Had they not been then I would have made Argentina favourites against them, maybe 4/7 - 7/4 - 20/1.
I can't for the life of me see how Argentina are 5/2 against Australia tomorrow?
Okay, Hooper missed the Welsh game and Pocock missed the Scottish game. Both are playing but Argentina did beat them this time last year and won out in South Africa recently so are clearly a team on the up.
Suggest £25 at 5/2 with Smarkets, if you haven't got an account and want some of mine let me know.

Smarkets? never head of them

well need some of yours to get the 5/2 please.

http://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/rugby-world-cup/argentina-v-australia/winner

let me know how much of the £25 you can spare

You've got £25 @ 3.55 as I'm balls deep on Argentina.

Smarkets are an exchange which don't have Betfairs liquidity but do stay open during peak punting times. They also only charge 2% commission.

BOOKED

Thank you very much Mr Rubbish, settle up after the game?

[tikay]

Australia were lucky against Wales. Had Scott Williams, Jonathan Davies or Cory Allen been fit then I honestly believe we would have won. Had Wales been playing against Argentina then I think, on a neutral venue, Wales would have been slight favourites, 4/5 - 5/4 - 20/1 the draw.
Australia were very lucky against Scotland. No point harping on about it, had the last minute decision been made in the first minute then nobody would have mentioned it. It wasn't though and Scotland were out. Had they not been then I would have made Argentina favourites against them, maybe 4/7 - 7/4 - 20/1.
I can't for the life of me see how Argentina are 5/2 against Australia tomorrow?
Okay, Hooper missed the Welsh game and Pocock missed the Scottish game. Both are playing but Argentina did beat them this time last year and won out in South Africa recently so are clearly a team on the up.
Suggest £25 at 5/2 with Smarkets, if you haven't got an account and want some of mine let me know.

fwiw I think Australia will cover, easily. I love Argentina this time but they're not in the race Aussie's -6 is max imo

Any reasons for this bullish statement?

Couple of Scotch's kicking in early before the Eubank fight is fav. 

Possibly.

For 60 minutes of the first World Cup match Argentina owned New Zealand. Australia have had two really hard matches and have a question mark over Pococks fitness. Argentina have no injury concerns and have coasted through their last four matches. Seo is missing from the Australian front row which is also a massive loss.

How exactly is Australia -6 a max job?

Argentina were holding on desperately against for large parts against Ireland, Australia will defend wide very well and Pocock will be first there every time. Australia will win easily and Cheika is a legend.

Do you actually believe what you're writing? Hector, Alun, Tighty, feel free to back me up.

Argentina were holding on desperately against for large parts against Ireland

Ireland were 7 nil down after three minutes and seventeen nil down after thirteen minutes. Obviously, chasing the game, they were going to put Argentina under pressure. But the truth is Argentina's try line was threatened twice. That Ireland scored twice is worrying but at no time, other than the last two minutes, were Ireland camped on the Argentina try line. Ireland had 51% possession and 53% territory but made more tackles than Argentina. Most of the Irish possession in the Argentinian half was between the halfway and 25 metre line. I challenge you to watch the game again and tell me what minutes Argentina were desperately holding on e.g. between 27-36.

Australia will defend wide very well

Even when they beat New Zealand Milner Skudder scored two trys. Conrad Smith and Ma Nonu (2) scored when the All Blacks thrashed them. Even Watson for a bad English team scored. Wales never threatened out wide because North was in the Centre, we didn't have any wings and Jamie Roberts can't pass the ball. The two centres and a wing scored for Scotland. If the ball gets out to the backs Argentina will create chances. Twenty six trys already this tournament backs that statement up.

Pocock will be first there every time

Absolutely impossible that will happen. If he gets to the first breakdown he will not make it to the second breakdown first. Pocock and Hooper between them might get there first but Pocock wont on his own.

Australia will win easily

Your opinion based on facts above which are clearly incorrect.

Cheika is a legend

Examples please?

I can confirm that Steve Hansen is a legend. I worked at the WRU for twelve years and was there when Steve was. On his last day we all went for a pint in a place called bar Izit. He was there for a couple of hours and chatted to everyone before saying his goodbyes because he was on an early flight to New Zealand the next day and had to get to Heathrow. As was normal in those days the rest of our compatriots drunk up and were gone within five minutes of him leaving. I ran the ticket office and me and the four guys who worked with me enjoyed a drink. I went to the bar and the guy said "you're with the WRU aren't you, Steve left £500 behind the bar for you all". I looked around and there was only us five left. Happy days.

Obviously five of us couldn't drink £500 quids worth of cider but there were some Girls there celebrating a 21st Birthday. We joined them and bought a few bottles of Champagne and a load of cocktails. I ended up taking this beautiful blonde girl back to my mates house and all I can say is, Steve Hansen you absolute legend, thank you very much.

Great story.

[tikay]

Any love for palace 45/1 to get relegated. I think they likely to get smashed next 3 games and this price likely to
Drop dramatically as they go to lower mid table.  So even if it's bet to lay.

Pardew is awful manager who can't coach good attacking footballers. Defensively palace don't look so great and going forward they've scored one goal in open play in 6 games. He will slowly coach out all
Ability the team has. None of their 5 strikers have scored all season. All the teams around then have guys who are capable of scoring goals.

West brom and stoke beig 6/1 and palace being 45/1 doesn't sit right with me. If the fans who are usually amazing start turning on Pardews awful management then their fortress may not be so strong in a couple of months and with their upcoming fixtures they could go into the Christmas period that's very important with no confidence, fans who are starting to become unhappy at Pardews constant excuses and lack of any imagination.

Other teams below them in table

Swansea - have very very good chance of not being relegated, way more complete team than palace
West Brom - Pulis should grind out enough points
Stoke - too much talent

Teams that are likely to struggle

Sunderland
Villa
Bournemouth
Newcastle
Norwich
Watford

Of course it's not "likely" to happen but 45/1 seems pretty big.

Definitely seen worse value, would not argue with that.

I suspect, though, that your deep personal dislike of Pardew is colouring your judgement a little.

Forgetting the price, or the bet, would you like to see Pardew's team relegated?

That aside, should be quite a game at Noon today, the bad playing the worse. May the less worse team win.