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[Tal]

Deandre Hopkins. Yes. Sorry!

That's what writing before I've finished the first cup of tea does to me.

Luck not changing his game is a worry for them but he is still the best QB in the division. Gore is old but getting the new center, Kelly, will help the running game. They aren't the 12-4 team of old but they should get 8. That 8.5 line is really difficult to price up, IMO. Luck gets injured early and they could finish fourth. Everything clicks and they romp the division.

Fowler will help Jax for sure, but he's effectively a rookie, like Clowney was for Houston last year.

I see the division as being similar to the AFC North now, where three teams are all decent without being spectacular and one team is adrift.

[TightEnd]

Hello, I have been a long time reader of this excellent thread after playing PLO8 next door with Tony.
I haven't felt confident enough to put up a recommendation, and I am not to good at copy and pasting, but I do believe that the rule changes in the following article may lead to an angle with the disciplinary markets for Euro 2016, as players and teams struggle to adapt.
I thought maybe total yellow/reds for the whole tournament maybe under estimated?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36256441
Changes in language aside, here are the other things that will be different about football from 1 June:

Law 1 - the field of play

Logos permitted on corner flags (previously banned).

Mix of artificial and natural surfaces allowed on field of play (previously banned).

Law 3 - the players

If a substitute, sent-off player or match official interferes with play, causing the game to be stopped, it will result in a direct free-kick or penalty (previously indirect free-kick or drop-ball).

If a substitute, team official or outside agent stops a ball going into the goal, the referee can apply the advantage rule and award a goal.

Law 4 - the players' equipment

Players wearing undershorts or tights have to make sure they are the same colour as those worn by any team-mates - and they must also match their shorts.

A player leaving the field of play to change their boots can only be allowed back on by the referee.

Law 5 - the referee

Referees have the authority to take action from when they enter the field of play for the pre-match inspection, not from the start of the game - which means players could be sent off for an offence committed while warming up. But yellow cards can only be issued from the start of the match.

Players injured by opponents who are then sent off do not need to leave the pitch for treatment.

Law 7 - duration of the match

Time taken for drinks breaks can now officially be added on at the end of a game.

Law 8 - the start and restart of play

The ball no longer has to move forward at a kick-off - it just has to move for the game to start.

Referees should not 'manufacture' dropped ball situations, in terms of who takes them, or the outcome.

Law 10 - Determining the outcome of a match

Deciding which end a penalty shootout should take place is to be done by a coin-toss, subject to condition of the pitch, or safety concerns. It is no longer the referee's choice.

A team with more players than the other when the shootout starts must reduce the number of takers so they have the same number of eligible players - this will stop teams who have had a player sent off having their better penalty takers available sooner.

Law 11 - offside

Hands and arms are not included when judging offside.

Free-kicks for offside can be taken from where the offside player received the ball.

Law 12 - fouls and misconduct

Mike Dean
Indirect free-kicks used to be awarded when restarting games following offences against match officials. But lawmakers thought this sent out the wrong message, so they have upped it to a direct free-kick
A free-kick or penalty can only be awarded while the ball is in play.

Denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity in the penalty area is no longer a straight red card - unless the offence is holding, pulling or pushing; there's no attempt to play or no possibility of making a challenge; or it's an offence which is punishable by a red card, no matter where on the pitch it happens - violent conduct, for example.

Violent conduct is punishable by a red card even if no contact is made.

An offence against a match official will result in a direct free-kick or penalty.

Law 13 - free-kicks

When fouls are committed off the pitch when the ball is in play, the match is restarted with a free-kick on the touchline nearest where the incident occurred. A direct free-kick will be awarded for direct free-kick offences - and a penalty could be awarded if it happens parallel to the penalty area.

Law 14 - the penalty kick

Players who feint to kick the ball once they have taken a run-up when taking a penalty will get booked for unsporting behaviour. Feinting in the run-up is allowed. And goalkeepers who come off their line too early will also be booked.

Law 15 - the throw-in

Opposing players who try to impede a throw-in will be cautioned if they are standing under two metres away.

Law 17 - the corner kick

The wording has been changed in the laws to say: "The ball is in play when it is kicked and clearly moves." This is to stop players "unsportingly" touching the ball and pretending the corner has not been taken, to gain an advantage.

Hopefully someone will be able to find an angle with this information.

Cheers,

Andrew.

hello welcome to the thread

i am not sure what bet we might place to take advantage of tougher laws and player unfamiliarity with new laws?

any ideas? are there bookings and sending offs markets ante-post?

[TightEnd]

Deandre Hopkins. Yes. Sorry!

That's what writing before I've finished the first cup of tea does to me.

Luck not changing his game is a worry for them but he is still the best QB in the division. Gore is old but getting the new center, Kelly, will help the running game. They aren't the 12-4 team of old but they should get 8. That 8.5 line is really difficult to price up, IMO. Luck gets injured early and they could finish fourth. Everything clicks and they romp the division.

Fowler will help Jax for sure, but he's effectively a rookie, like Clowney was for Houston last year.

I see the division as being similar to the AFC North now, where three teams are all decent without being spectacular and one team is adrift.

you want us to open a new bet365 account? i dont think that's likely.

is there a rush? its may, and we'd be tying up money at 6/5 for 7 months.

plenty of fun we could be having with £50 from now until August

I think the 5.5 line is maybe a touch high, but not too much in it

very soft schedule, Mariota showed me enough last year to suggest he can drag them to a few wins, fair amounts of receiving talent and that young running back Henry is a tank. Probably a couple of drafts away from being a winning team though

[TightEnd]

Warwickshire going for victory against Durham

9-36 helps...

[Tal]

Deandre Hopkins. Yes. Sorry!

That's what writing before I've finished the first cup of tea does to me.

Luck not changing his game is a worry for them but he is still the best QB in the division. Gore is old but getting the new center, Kelly, will help the running game. They aren't the 12-4 team of old but they should get 8. That 8.5 line is really difficult to price up, IMO. Luck gets injured early and they could finish fourth. Everything clicks and they romp the division.

Fowler will help Jax for sure, but he's effectively a rookie, like Clowney was for Houston last year.

I see the division as being similar to the AFC North now, where three teams are all decent without being spectacular and one team is adrift.

you want us to open a new bet365 account? i dont think that's likely.

is there a rush? its may, and we'd be tying up money at 6/5 for 7 months.

plenty of fun we could be having with £50 from now until August

I think the 5.5 line is maybe a touch high, but not too much in it

very soft schedule, Mariota showed me enough last year to suggest he can drag them to a few wins, fair amounts of receiving talent and that young running back Henry is a tank. Probably a couple of drafts away from being a winning team though

Ha! I wasn't advocating Fred got his Aunt Agatha to set up a new account for him. I was just referencing whether it's a "big bet" situation. I know we struggle to get bets on with that particular Potteries-based turf accountant.

Fair enough on keeping the powder dry. Plenty of sweats to be had in the fullness of time.



This was not Aunt Dahlia, my good and kindly aunt, but my Aunt Agatha, the one who chews broken bottles and kills rats with her teeth.

[tikay]

Hello, I have been a long time reader of this excellent thread after playing PLO8 next door with Tony.
I haven't felt confident enough to put up a recommendation, and I am not to good at copy and pasting, but I do believe that the rule changes in the following article may lead to an angle with the disciplinary markets for Euro 2016, as players and teams struggle to adapt.
I thought maybe total yellow/reds for the whole tournament maybe under estimated?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36256441
Changes in language aside, here are the other things that will be different about football from 1 June:

Law 1 - the field of play

Logos permitted on corner flags (previously banned).

Mix of artificial and natural surfaces allowed on field of play (previously banned).

Law 3 - the players

If a substitute, sent-off player or match official interferes with play, causing the game to be stopped, it will result in a direct free-kick or penalty (previously indirect free-kick or drop-ball).

If a substitute, team official or outside agent stops a ball going into the goal, the referee can apply the advantage rule and award a goal.

Law 4 - the players' equipment

Players wearing undershorts or tights have to make sure they are the same colour as those worn by any team-mates - and they must also match their shorts.

A player leaving the field of play to change their boots can only be allowed back on by the referee.

Law 5 - the referee

Referees have the authority to take action from when they enter the field of play for the pre-match inspection, not from the start of the game - which means players could be sent off for an offence committed while warming up. But yellow cards can only be issued from the start of the match.

Players injured by opponents who are then sent off do not need to leave the pitch for treatment.

Law 7 - duration of the match

Time taken for drinks breaks can now officially be added on at the end of a game.

Law 8 - the start and restart of play

The ball no longer has to move forward at a kick-off - it just has to move for the game to start.

Referees should not 'manufacture' dropped ball situations, in terms of who takes them, or the outcome.

Law 10 - Determining the outcome of a match

Deciding which end a penalty shootout should take place is to be done by a coin-toss, subject to condition of the pitch, or safety concerns. It is no longer the referee's choice.

A team with more players than the other when the shootout starts must reduce the number of takers so they have the same number of eligible players - this will stop teams who have had a player sent off having their better penalty takers available sooner.

Law 11 - offside

Hands and arms are not included when judging offside.

Free-kicks for offside can be taken from where the offside player received the ball.

Law 12 - fouls and misconduct

Mike Dean
Indirect free-kicks used to be awarded when restarting games following offences against match officials. But lawmakers thought this sent out the wrong message, so they have upped it to a direct free-kick
A free-kick or penalty can only be awarded while the ball is in play.

Denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity in the penalty area is no longer a straight red card - unless the offence is holding, pulling or pushing; there's no attempt to play or no possibility of making a challenge; or it's an offence which is punishable by a red card, no matter where on the pitch it happens - violent conduct, for example.

Violent conduct is punishable by a red card even if no contact is made.

An offence against a match official will result in a direct free-kick or penalty.

Law 13 - free-kicks

When fouls are committed off the pitch when the ball is in play, the match is restarted with a free-kick on the touchline nearest where the incident occurred. A direct free-kick will be awarded for direct free-kick offences - and a penalty could be awarded if it happens parallel to the penalty area.

Law 14 - the penalty kick

Players who feint to kick the ball once they have taken a run-up when taking a penalty will get booked for unsporting behaviour. Feinting in the run-up is allowed. And goalkeepers who come off their line too early will also be booked.

Law 15 - the throw-in

Opposing players who try to impede a throw-in will be cautioned if they are standing under two metres away.

Law 17 - the corner kick

The wording has been changed in the laws to say: "The ball is in play when it is kicked and clearly moves." This is to stop players "unsportingly" touching the ball and pretending the corner has not been taken, to gain an advantage.

Hopefully someone will be able to find an angle with this information.

Cheers,

Andrew.

Morning Andrew - great to see you here.

Keep the stuff coming, please, little edges & all that.

Hope you are well, was good to "see you" last night at the tables, hope all is well with you & yours.

[tikay]

Suggest £20 Timea Bacsinszky 7/1 to win Second quarter of French Open with the bald man
http://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/french-open/womens/player-to-win-2nd-quarter

Gonna top up a bit more myself too with Mere's approval!

I forgot that Tighty was AWOL today, so I'm temporarily in charge, & the bookies are running for cover.

We have £20 @ 7/1, Timea Bassinszky to win French Open (Girlies) 2nd Quarter, with BetFred.

BET PLACED

Without a ball being hit in that quarter yet, Bacsinszky is now best 11/2.

Thanks Vince,

Feels like a winner already.

You & other Girlie Tennis followers may be interested that Suzanne Lenglen (who?) would have been 117 years old today. That nice helpful Mr google bought the matter to my attention, of course.

I had a read of her Wiki & it's a fascinating insight into Tennis & society back in the day. She was the Serena Williams - & more - of her time.

A few lines in particular from here Wiki caught my eye......

".....Lenglen's 241 titles, 181 match winning streak and 341-7 (97.99%) match record are hard to imagine happening in today's tennis atmosphere..."


"......Later in the year, Lenglen seemed to be on course for her seventh Wimbledon singles title. However, Lenglen unknowingly kept Queen Mary waiting in the Royal Box for her appearance in a preliminary match. Lenglen, who had been told that her match would not start until much later, fainted upon being informed of her error, which was seen by aristocratic English attendees as an insult to the monarchy. Lenglen withdrew from the tournament, which would be her last appearance at the courts of Wimbledon...."



 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzanne_Lenglen

[Horneris]

Tennis bet.

Rec £50 on Lennard-Struff +6.5 games vs Tsonga @ EVS (Tote/Freds)

and £10 on Struff to win the match @ 5/1 (Laddies) Might aswell do it with a 1 set retirement firm if poss, altho unlikely Tsonga ever retires from his home open, Struff looks in far better shape.

Struff got a set off some top players recently, was in great form when I watched him in quallies and seen a bit of Tsonga recently and hes looked questionable and has never loved clay particularily. Like this one.,

[TightEnd]

Jan-Lennard Struff Jan-Lennard Struff v Jo-Wilfried Tsonga Winner
5/1
Total Stake: £10.00
Potential Returns: £60.00

the evens has gone on the games handicap, had a slightly smaller bet at the 10/11 each of two

Jan-Lennard Struff +6.5 Jan-Lennard Struff v Jo-Wilfried Tsonga Games Handicap
10/11
Total Stake: £40.00
Potential Returns: £76.40

[bergeroo]

Suggest £20 Timea Bacsinszky 7/1 to win Second quarter of French Open with the bald man
http://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/french-open/womens/player-to-win-2nd-quarter

Gonna top up a bit more myself too with Mere's approval!

I forgot that Tighty was AWOL today, so I'm temporarily in charge, & the bookies are running for cover.

We have £20 @ 7/1, Timea Bassinszky to win French Open (Girlies) 2nd Quarter, with BetFred.

BET PLACED

Without a ball being hit in that quarter yet, Bacsinszky is now best 11/2.

Number three seed Kerber loses in the first round (despite sneaky use of an injury timeout in the final set to try to change the momentum) - opening the quarter up nicely.

Bacsinszky now probably joint favourite and playing later. Should she win, she will have to negotiate a very tricky second round match vs dangerous unseeded player Bouchard

[MereNovice]

Suggest £20 Timea Bacsinszky 7/1 to win Second quarter of French Open with the bald man
http://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/french-open/womens/player-to-win-2nd-quarter

Gonna top up a bit more myself too with Mere's approval!

I forgot that Tighty was AWOL today, so I'm temporarily in charge, & the bookies are running for cover.

We have £20 @ 7/1, Timea Bassinszky to win French Open (Girlies) 2nd Quarter, with BetFred.

BET PLACED

Without a ball being hit in that quarter yet, Bacsinszky is now best 11/2.

Number three seed Kerber loses in the first round (despite sneaky use of an injury timeout in the final set to try to change the momentum) - opening the quarter up nicely.

Bacsinszky now probably joint favourite and playing later. Should she win, she will have to negotiate a very tricky second round match vs dangerous unseeded player Bouchard

Bacsinszky playing now and has got her hands full.
You can watch on Bet365.

[pleno1]

Ronaldo apparantly injured in Madrid training.

3.25 Austria top team group f?

Austria 9/4 top scorers

After Ronaldo top scorer odds are HUGE for Porugal, it seems really sick.

Second favourite is  Nani 12/1, Quaresma 16/1, Danny 20/1, Eder 20/1. Even if Ronaldo is fit now they seem good odds? If they are the true odds then betting against Portugal now if Ronaldo is 10%+ injured seems great?

Hungary and Iceland other teams.

[arbboy]

Ronaldo apparantly injured in Madrid training.

3.25 Austria top team group f?

Austria 9/4 top scorers

After Ronaldo top scorer odds are HUGE for Porugal, it seems really sick.

Second favourite is  Nani 12/1, Quaresma 16/1, Danny 20/1, Eder 20/1. Even if Ronaldo is fit now they seem good odds? If they are the true odds then betting against Portugal now if Ronaldo is 10%+ injured seems great?

Hungary and Iceland other teams.

How injured?  Def going to miss England v Portugal at Wembley?  I got betfair tickets for the game.  Typical how bad i run if he doesn't make it.  Only reason i wanted to go.

[MereNovice]

Suggest £20 Timea Bacsinszky 7/1 to win Second quarter of French Open with the bald man
http://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/french-open/womens/player-to-win-2nd-quarter

Gonna top up a bit more myself too with Mere's approval!

I forgot that Tighty was AWOL today, so I'm temporarily in charge, & the bookies are running for cover.

We have £20 @ 7/1, Timea Bassinszky to win French Open (Girlies) 2nd Quarter, with BetFred.

BET PLACED

Without a ball being hit in that quarter yet, Bacsinszky is now best 11/2.

Number three seed Kerber loses in the first round (despite sneaky use of an injury timeout in the final set to try to change the momentum) - opening the quarter up nicely.

Bacsinszky now probably joint favourite and playing later. Should she win, she will have to negotiate a very tricky second round match vs dangerous unseeded player Bouchard

Bacsinszky playing now and has got her hands full.
You can watch on Bet365.

Ms. Bacsinszky won 10 of the next 11 games after I posted that.
#solidread

[tikay]

Ronaldo apparantly injured in Madrid training.

3.25 Austria top team group f?

Austria 9/4 top scorers

After Ronaldo top scorer odds are HUGE for Porugal, it seems really sick.

Second favourite is  Nani 12/1, Quaresma 16/1, Danny 20/1, Eder 20/1. Even if Ronaldo is fit now they seem good odds? If they are the true odds then betting against Portugal now if Ronaldo is 10%+ injured seems great?

Hungary and Iceland other teams.

How injured?  Def going to miss England v Portugal at Wembley?  I got betfair tickets for the game.  Typical how bad i run if he doesn't make it.  Only reason i wanted to go.

FWIW........

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/cristiano-ronaldo-injury-doubt-champions-8037298