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« Reply #120510 on: August 12, 2016, 09:15:52 AM »

Any views on KJT in the heptathlon against the girl from off of the telly?

5/2 BetFwed and Red Shouty Man

5/4 Ennis seems as barmy as 17/2 Liverpool to me.
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« Reply #120511 on: August 12, 2016, 09:35:36 AM »

Every so often bookies price up something that they've never priced before and that they have no idea about.
FPL betting from Corals.
http://sports.coral.co.uk/football
Corals have obviously gotten their office FPL whizz to price it up this year and they don't know what they are doing.

I could go into a long detailed post about why keepers are a very distinct scoring category but basically it comes down to the fact that the 'big four' keepers aren't very far ahead (if at all) of lower ranked teams keepers.
Last year Cech was the top scoring keeper and that is the first time I think in the 12 years I'm playing a top four keeper has won it. 

The top keepers make their points from clean sheets and the lower keepers are able to keep pace by getting higher 'save points', bonus points, penalty saves and the fact that they only lose 1 point for every 2 goals conceded.
So you want a keeper who will play every game, whose team will keep ~10+ clean sheets (Cech kept 16 last year), makes a lot of saves and will hopefully save a couple of penalties (big point scores from this).

Gomes (Watford) fnished a very close 2nd last year but is priced up at 20/1 for some reason. He kept 11 clean sheets and saved 3 pens. He has an excellent record on pens, saving 13 of 46.
Adrian (West Ham) finished 8th, some way off the pace but he did miss 6 matches through injury. He kept 9 clean sheets and I think we might expect that to improve. He has saved 5 pens in the last 2 seasons. Available at 18/1.
I won't put anyone off Heaton who scored 150 pts two years ago (would have finished 3rd last year) @ 33/1. He kept 10 clean sheets that year, saving 2 pens, and they should set up similarly defensively this year.
Foster (33/1), Valdes (40/1) and Mandanda (25/1) could also be in with a shout.
Nathan Redmond is available @ 125/1 to be top midfielder and could be worth a small e/w wager.
If anyone moves clubs, I think this market will be slow to react and the likes of Berahino/Benteke could be worth a nibble at big prices.

Recommend:
Adrian top goalkeeper @ 18/1 £5 e/w
Gomes top goalkeeper @ 20/1 £5 e/w
Nathan Redmond top midfielder @ 125/1 £2.50 e/w

I know TFT doesn't have Corals so I can offer the above if Fred wants.



Morning.

I'll leave that to Tighty, but that's a cracking post - I do like to see these things researched, & some effort put into them.

I fancy x to beat y this weekend abso does my head in. These guys must knock it in a treat. 
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« Reply #120512 on: August 12, 2016, 09:36:57 AM »

Hey all, long term lurker and admirers of Fred here.

Being a Swansea season ticket holder I thought I'd offer some thoughts on the Swansea relegation bet discussion.

It has been a blow to lose Ayew and Williams (I personally don't think its as big a blow as others do) and I agree that the odds probably should have been cut, I still would expect us to stay up.  Sigurddson signing a contract extension is a big plus and personally I'm happy with the signings of Llorente and Baston. I also think Kingsley at left back and Barrow on the wing could make an impact this season.
I think if we do get near the relegation places Guidolin will set us up to sit back and grind out results like last year.

I would like to point out that I'm not a betting or odds expert by any means

Welcome aboard Dacorb, & thanks for that, it might be useful.

Keep us posted as to how things go down there please.
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« Reply #120513 on: August 12, 2016, 09:39:16 AM »

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« Reply #120514 on: August 12, 2016, 09:43:38 AM »

Every so often bookies price up something that they've never priced before and that they have no idea about.
FPL betting from Corals.
http://sports.coral.co.uk/football
Corals have obviously gotten their office FPL whizz to price it up this year and they don't know what they are doing.

I could go into a long detailed post about why keepers are a very distinct scoring category but basically it comes down to the fact that the 'big four' keepers aren't very far ahead (if at all) of lower ranked teams keepers.
Last year Cech was the top scoring keeper and that is the first time I think in the 12 years I'm playing a top four keeper has won it. 

The top keepers make their points from clean sheets and the lower keepers are able to keep pace by getting higher 'save points', bonus points, penalty saves and the fact that they only lose 1 point for every 2 goals conceded.
So you want a keeper who will play every game, whose team will keep ~10+ clean sheets (Cech kept 16 last year), makes a lot of saves and will hopefully save a couple of penalties (big point scores from this).

Gomes (Watford) fnished a very close 2nd last year but is priced up at 20/1 for some reason. He kept 11 clean sheets and saved 3 pens. He has an excellent record on pens, saving 13 of 46.
Adrian (West Ham) finished 8th, some way off the pace but he did miss 6 matches through injury. He kept 9 clean sheets and I think we might expect that to improve. He has saved 5 pens in the last 2 seasons. Available at 18/1.
I won't put anyone off Heaton who scored 150 pts two years ago (would have finished 3rd last year) @ 33/1. He kept 10 clean sheets that year, saving 2 pens, and they should set up similarly defensively this year.
Foster (33/1), Valdes (40/1) and Mandanda (25/1) could also be in with a shout.
Nathan Redmond is available @ 125/1 to be top midfielder and could be worth a small e/w wager.
If anyone moves clubs, I think this market will be slow to react and the likes of Berahino/Benteke could be worth a nibble at big prices.

Recommend:
Adrian top goalkeeper @ 18/1 £5 e/w
Gomes top goalkeeper @ 20/1 £5 e/w
Nathan Redmond top midfielder @ 125/1 £2.50 e/w

I know TFT doesn't have Corals so I can offer the above if Fred wants.



we do have coral but a) i can't find these markets and b) for me the website is virtually impossible to use. error messages, site hangs etc etc

so we'll take those above please

if you are able to do the same on bellerin and van dijk as per horneris let me know, thanks
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« Reply #120515 on: August 12, 2016, 09:45:57 AM »

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Total Stake: £40.00
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« Reply #120516 on: August 12, 2016, 09:51:04 AM »

Every so often bookies price up something that they've never priced before and that they have no idea about.
FPL betting from Corals.
http://sports.coral.co.uk/football
Corals have obviously gotten their office FPL whizz to price it up this year and they don't know what they are doing.

I could go into a long detailed post about why keepers are a very distinct scoring category but basically it comes down to the fact that the 'big four' keepers aren't very far ahead (if at all) of lower ranked teams keepers.
Last year Cech was the top scoring keeper and that is the first time I think in the 12 years I'm playing a top four keeper has won it.  

The top keepers make their points from clean sheets and the lower keepers are able to keep pace by getting higher 'save points', bonus points, penalty saves and the fact that they only lose 1 point for every 2 goals conceded.
So you want a keeper who will play every game, whose team will keep ~10+ clean sheets (Cech kept 16 last year), makes a lot of saves and will hopefully save a couple of penalties (big point scores from this).

Gomes (Watford) fnished a very close 2nd last year but is priced up at 20/1 for some reason. He kept 11 clean sheets and saved 3 pens. He has an excellent record on pens, saving 13 of 46.
Adrian (West Ham) finished 8th, some way off the pace but he did miss 6 matches through injury. He kept 9 clean sheets and I think we might expect that to improve. He has saved 5 pens in the last 2 seasons. Available at 18/1.
I won't put anyone off Heaton who scored 150 pts two years ago (would have finished 3rd last year) @ 33/1. He kept 10 clean sheets that year, saving 2 pens, and they should set up similarly defensively this year.
Foster (33/1), Valdes (40/1) and Mandanda (25/1) could also be in with a shout.
Nathan Redmond is available @ 125/1 to be top midfielder and could be worth a small e/w wager.
If anyone moves clubs, I think this market will be slow to react and the likes of Berahino/Benteke could be worth a nibble at big prices.

Recommend:
Adrian top goalkeeper @ 18/1 £5 e/w
Gomes top goalkeeper @ 20/1 £5 e/w
Nathan Redmond top midfielder @ 125/1 £2.50 e/w

I know TFT doesn't have Corals so I can offer the above if Fred wants.



we do have coral but a) i can't find these markets and b) for me the website is virtually impossible to use. error messages, site hangs etc etc

so we'll take those above please

if you are able to do the same on bellerin and van dijk as per horneris let me know, thanks

Dazzler,

Thanks for offering to help, if you confirm, I'll send the cash across as it's a long-term jobbie.
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« Reply #120517 on: August 12, 2016, 09:51:34 AM »

Any views on KJT in the heptathlon against the girl from off of the telly?

5/2 BetFwed and Red Shouty Man

5/4 Ennis seems as barmy as 17/2 Liverpool to me.

why is ennis too short?

form? injury?

KJT doesn't tend to beat her?
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« Reply #120518 on: August 12, 2016, 09:52:16 AM »

Every so often bookies price up something that they've never priced before and that they have no idea about.
FPL betting from Corals.
http://sports.coral.co.uk/football
Corals have obviously gotten their office FPL whizz to price it up this year and they don't know what they are doing.

I could go into a long detailed post about why keepers are a very distinct scoring category but basically it comes down to the fact that the 'big four' keepers aren't very far ahead (if at all) of lower ranked teams keepers.
Last year Cech was the top scoring keeper and that is the first time I think in the 12 years I'm playing a top four keeper has won it. 

The top keepers make their points from clean sheets and the lower keepers are able to keep pace by getting higher 'save points', bonus points, penalty saves and the fact that they only lose 1 point for every 2 goals conceded.
So you want a keeper who will play every game, whose team will keep ~10+ clean sheets (Cech kept 16 last year), makes a lot of saves and will hopefully save a couple of penalties (big point scores from this).

Gomes (Watford) fnished a very close 2nd last year but is priced up at 20/1 for some reason. He kept 11 clean sheets and saved 3 pens. He has an excellent record on pens, saving 13 of 46.
Adrian (West Ham) finished 8th, some way off the pace but he did miss 6 matches through injury. He kept 9 clean sheets and I think we might expect that to improve. He has saved 5 pens in the last 2 seasons. Available at 18/1.
I won't put anyone off Heaton who scored 150 pts two years ago (would have finished 3rd last year) @ 33/1. He kept 10 clean sheets that year, saving 2 pens, and they should set up similarly defensively this year.
Foster (33/1), Valdes (40/1) and Mandanda (25/1) could also be in with a shout.
Nathan Redmond is available @ 125/1 to be top midfielder and could be worth a small e/w wager.
If anyone moves clubs, I think this market will be slow to react and the likes of Berahino/Benteke could be worth a nibble at big prices.

Recommend:
Adrian top goalkeeper @ 18/1 £5 e/w
Gomes top goalkeeper @ 20/1 £5 e/w
Nathan Redmond top midfielder @ 125/1 £2.50 e/w

I know TFT doesn't have Corals so I can offer the above if Fred wants.



we do have coral but a) i can't find these markets and b) for me the website is virtually impossible to use. error messages, site hangs etc etc

so we'll take those above please

if you are able to do the same on bellerin and van dijk as per horneris let me know, thanks

what are the each way terms please?
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« Reply #120519 on: August 12, 2016, 10:27:27 AM »

I must be the only person in the UK who doesn't rate redmond as a winger let alone a striker...



Nope , me too Horsey.
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« Reply #120520 on: August 12, 2016, 10:36:01 AM »

Every so often bookies price up something that they've never priced before and that they have no idea about.
FPL betting from Corals.
http://sports.coral.co.uk/football
Corals have obviously gotten their office FPL whizz to price it up this year and they don't know what they are doing.

I could go into a long detailed post about why keepers are a very distinct scoring category but basically it comes down to the fact that the 'big four' keepers aren't very far ahead (if at all) of lower ranked teams keepers.
Last year Cech was the top scoring keeper and that is the first time I think in the 12 years I'm playing a top four keeper has won it. 

The top keepers make their points from clean sheets and the lower keepers are able to keep pace by getting higher 'save points', bonus points, penalty saves and the fact that they only lose 1 point for every 2 goals conceded.
So you want a keeper who will play every game, whose team will keep ~10+ clean sheets (Cech kept 16 last year), makes a lot of saves and will hopefully save a couple of penalties (big point scores from this).

Gomes (Watford) fnished a very close 2nd last year but is priced up at 20/1 for some reason. He kept 11 clean sheets and saved 3 pens. He has an excellent record on pens, saving 13 of 46.
Adrian (West Ham) finished 8th, some way off the pace but he did miss 6 matches through injury. He kept 9 clean sheets and I think we might expect that to improve. He has saved 5 pens in the last 2 seasons. Available at 18/1.
I won't put anyone off Heaton who scored 150 pts two years ago (would have finished 3rd last year) @ 33/1. He kept 10 clean sheets that year, saving 2 pens, and they should set up similarly defensively this year.
Foster (33/1), Valdes (40/1) and Mandanda (25/1) could also be in with a shout.
Nathan Redmond is available @ 125/1 to be top midfielder and could be worth a small e/w wager.
If anyone moves clubs, I think this market will be slow to react and the likes of Berahino/Benteke could be worth a nibble at big prices.

Recommend:
Adrian top goalkeeper @ 18/1 £5 e/w
Gomes top goalkeeper @ 20/1 £5 e/w
Nathan Redmond top midfielder @ 125/1 £2.50 e/w

I know TFT doesn't have Corals so I can offer the above if Fred wants.



we do have coral but a) i can't find these markets and b) for me the website is virtually impossible to use. error messages, site hangs etc etc

so we'll take those above please

if you are able to do the same on bellerin and van dijk as per horneris let me know, thanks

what are the each way terms please?

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« Reply #120521 on: August 12, 2016, 11:13:58 AM »

Any views on KJT in the heptathlon against the girl from off of the telly?

5/2 BetFwed and Red Shouty Man

5/4 Ennis seems as barmy as 17/2 Liverpool to me.

why is ennis too short?

form? injury?

KJT doesn't tend to beat her?

Yes, but KJT is on the up at still only 23. I'm not saying she is more likely to win, but the two are much closer in my eyes than 5/2-5/4.

Jess will do exceptionally well to beat 6,700 this summer. That's about KJT's best, but she's more likely to be at her best than Jess. With the best will in the world, a 30 year old with recent injuries off the back of a year off seems like a hard argument at 5/4, however good her form was before it. At her best, Jess blitzes this field.

KJT has to throw near her best to win this. That's the key for me.

Jess was 11/8 a few days ago. The price is getting shorter without reason.  

I'm just putting it out there. I've backed her anyway.
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« Reply #120522 on: August 12, 2016, 12:52:57 PM »

Wasn't KJT one legal long jump from gold in the worlds last year?

Agree they should be closer
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« Reply #120523 on: August 12, 2016, 01:25:24 PM »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2016/08/12/jessica-ennis-hill-vs-katarina-johnson-thompson-who-is-stronger/

is an interesting read

any other opinions?
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« Reply #120524 on: August 12, 2016, 01:51:28 PM »

Hi all,
          Is the Heptathlon a 'true' 3 runner race as the betting suggests ?, if so they bet best 94% front 3.
Or can anyone see a shock result ?
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