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« Reply #125820 on: February 19, 2017, 12:24:24 PM »

Imagine paying your Kennel bill to own a virtual dog!!  that would be incredible.  Good luck tonight.

Ha most owners never even go to the kennels so could happen!
Ha what you think? Decent value there later?

http://greyhoundbet.racingpost.com/#card/race_id=1511466&r_date=2017-02-19&tab=form

I wouldn't be making it the joint fav tbh.  5/2 looks plenty short enough.  It is well drawn on the rails with t2 not a natural looking railer which moves middle.  It should get a solo on the rails and lead up but has plenty to find on the clock (which it could easily do at 21 months old) but it is the slowest dog in the race on known form.  Got 3.5 lengths to find with t3 on the clock.  Other dogs have also done faster times in trouble in their previous races.  Your best time was done with an effective solo/clean run.  I would make it a 4/1 shot with no margin tbh and that is only based on the fact it looks certain to get a lead and clear run early.  If it doesn't lead early then i can't get how it can win as there are a few big staying types in the race.  Don't forget that show is betting to 136%.  6% a runner so take 6% off the 5/2 (28.5%) and you got 22.5% or 7/2 to 100%.  Still don't think i would be backing it at 7/2 tbh.

I wouldn't want to be laying 6/1 about the big stayer in t5 tbh.
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« Reply #125821 on: February 19, 2017, 12:43:52 PM »

Imagine paying your Kennel bill to own a virtual dog!!  that would be incredible.  Good luck tonight.

Ha most owners never even go to the kennels so could happen!
Ha what you think? Decent value there later?

http://greyhoundbet.racingpost.com/#card/race_id=1511466&r_date=2017-02-19&tab=form

I wouldn't be making it the joint fav tbh.  5/2 looks plenty short enough.  It is well drawn on the rails with t2 not a natural looking railer which moves middle.  It should get a solo on the rails and lead up but has plenty to find on the clock (which it could easily do at 21 months old) but it is the slowest dog in the race on known form.  Got 3.5 lengths to find with t3 on the clock.  Other dogs have also done faster times in trouble in their previous races.  Your best time was done with an effective solo/clean run.  I would make it a 4/1 shot with no margin tbh and that is only based on the fact it looks certain to get a lead and clear run early.  If it doesn't lead early then i can't get how it can win as there are a few big staying types in the race.  Don't forget that show is betting to 136%.  6% a runner so take 6% off the 5/2 (28.5%) and you got 22.5% or 7/2 to 100%.  Still don't think i would be backing it at 7/2 tbh.

I wouldn't want to be laying 6/1 about the big stayer in t5 tbh.

Yeah ok fair enough. Do agree 5/2 is way too short for her first race in that grade. Though in my experience sittingbourne like to have very close races. She drifted to 3/1 last week so wouldn't be surprised if she did the same today.
Will be interesting viewing, expectations are she will do well here and possibly higher so will be good to see how she goes

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« Reply #125822 on: February 19, 2017, 12:48:14 PM »

Imagine paying your Kennel bill to own a virtual dog!!  that would be incredible.  Good luck tonight.

Ha most owners never even go to the kennels so could happen!
Ha what you think? Decent value there later?

http://greyhoundbet.racingpost.com/#card/race_id=1511466&r_date=2017-02-19&tab=form

I wouldn't be making it the joint fav tbh.  5/2 looks plenty short enough.  It is well drawn on the rails with t2 not a natural looking railer which moves middle.  It should get a solo on the rails and lead up but has plenty to find on the clock (which it could easily do at 21 months old) but it is the slowest dog in the race on known form.  Got 3.5 lengths to find with t3 on the clock.  Other dogs have also done faster times in trouble in their previous races.  Your best time was done with an effective solo/clean run.  I would make it a 4/1 shot with no margin tbh and that is only based on the fact it looks certain to get a lead and clear run early.  If it doesn't lead early then i can't get how it can win as there are a few big staying types in the race.  Don't forget that show is betting to 136%.  6% a runner so take 6% off the 5/2 (28.5%) and you got 22.5% or 7/2 to 100%.  Still don't think i would be backing it at 7/2 tbh.

I wouldn't want to be laying 6/1 about the big stayer in t5 tbh.

Yeah ok fair enough. Do agree 5/2 is way too short for her first race in that grade. Though in my experience sittingbourne like to have very close races. She drifted to 3/1 last week so wouldn't be surprised if she did the same today.
Will be interesting viewing, expectations are she will do well here and possibly higher so will be good to see how she goes



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If she was the only pup in the race i would be more bullish about her.  There are two other dogs in the race just as young and open to as much improvement potentially as yours is but they have already gone faster and in trouble in their races.   The 3 dog looks certain to lead the 2 up and get a clear run to the bend and is the fastest dog in the race.  She is the obvious clear fav for me tbh.  The RPost put 3 up as the 2nd best bet for them on the card and that will influence the prices to a certain extent.

Just for clarity it isn't a track i ever lay at myself personally so i am by no means knowledgable about the course as the meeting times for BAGS are during the 'off peak' hours shall we say like tonight when it is dead on betfair.  The non bookmaker owned tracks like CPark only get the graveyard BAGS slots when turnover is at its lowest.
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« Reply #125823 on: February 19, 2017, 12:51:12 PM »

Imagine paying your Kennel bill to own a virtual dog!!  that would be incredible.  Good luck tonight.

Ha most owners never even go to the kennels so could happen!
Ha what you think? Decent value there later?

http://greyhoundbet.racingpost.com/#card/race_id=1511466&r_date=2017-02-19&tab=form

I wouldn't be making it the joint fav tbh.  5/2 looks plenty short enough.  It is well drawn on the rails with t2 not a natural looking railer which moves middle.  It should get a solo on the rails and lead up but has plenty to find on the clock (which it could easily do at 21 months old) but it is the slowest dog in the race on known form.  Got 3.5 lengths to find with t3 on the clock.  Other dogs have also done faster times in trouble in their previous races.  Your best time was done with an effective solo/clean run.  I would make it a 4/1 shot with no margin tbh and that is only based on the fact it looks certain to get a lead and clear run early.  If it doesn't lead early then i can't get how it can win as there are a few big staying types in the race.  Don't forget that show is betting to 136%.  6% a runner so take 6% off the 5/2 (28.5%) and you got 22.5% or 7/2 to 100%.  Still don't think i would be backing it at 7/2 tbh.

I wouldn't want to be laying 6/1 about the big stayer in t5 tbh.

Agree with the above, 3 dog been sent off favourite last 3 times in the grade clearly fancied, wouldn't be surprised to see this go off shorter. As Arb said you've got a chance to lead however would need to find time (which isn't out of the question with a young bitch in form of course) but I wouldn't like to see the 3 dog turn close. 5/2 definitely doesn't represent value though. Good luck!
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« Reply #125824 on: February 19, 2017, 12:57:26 PM »

9.19 Central Park.

Our dog 'out of chicago' is running again in trap 1. It is a grade higher than last week so in A2 and the race looks very open. She is tipped along with traps 2 and 3 and her form is very good. If she can get to corner 1 and not be blocked there's a good chance of a win.
Greyhound app thinks start price will be around 11/4 but could well be longer than that.

What do the other greyhounders think? After now I know not to back each way, I think £20 on the nose wouldn't be a bad shout



what is central park?

confession, when you posted first the other day, i thought it was virtual greyhounds. never heard of central park in a greyhound context

 

Sittingbourne dogs changed it's name to Central Park around July last year. Caught me out on the form guides for a couple of weeks too!

http://greyhoundstar.co.uk/sittingbourne-name-change/
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« Reply #125825 on: February 19, 2017, 01:43:09 PM »

our well researched bet on Fleetwood at 50-1 3 places e/w has half a sneak on the e/w part certainly

they won yesterday, away at MKD and the other four in the top five drew against each other

fleetwood have scunthorpe away and bolton at home coming up, but they are the last top five teams they play in their last 13 games

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« Reply #125826 on: February 19, 2017, 01:45:00 PM »

in the championship we have a bad result, burton beat norwich

Clough stayed, Michael Kightly arrived and Burton have been picking up some points

not only do we need them to falter but we need the likes of Blackburn and Wgan to make up ground which is looking unlikely

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« Reply #125827 on: February 19, 2017, 01:50:49 PM »

our well researched bet on Fleetwood at 50-1 3 places e/w has half a sneak on the e/w part certainly

they won yesterday, away at MKD and the other four in the top five drew against each other

fleetwood have scunthorpe away and bolton at home coming up, but they are the last top five teams they play in their last 13 games

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Imagine where they would be with the Vardy money!
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« Reply #125828 on: February 19, 2017, 02:07:49 PM »

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/champions-league/sevilla-v-leicester/to-qualify

Some firms still giving it away on Seville.  Tight 1.34 now on betfair for decent money.
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« Reply #125829 on: February 19, 2017, 02:37:03 PM »

Imagine paying your Kennel bill to own a virtual dog!!  that would be incredible.  Good luck tonight.

Ha most owners never even go to the kennels so could happen!
Ha what you think? Decent value there later?

http://greyhoundbet.racingpost.com/#card/race_id=1511466&r_date=2017-02-19&tab=form

I wouldn't be making it the joint fav tbh.  5/2 looks plenty short enough.  It is well drawn on the rails with t2 not a natural looking railer which moves middle.  It should get a solo on the rails and lead up but has plenty to find on the clock (which it could easily do at 21 months old) but it is the slowest dog in the race on known form.  Got 3.5 lengths to find with t3 on the clock.  Other dogs have also done faster times in trouble in their previous races.  Your best time was done with an effective solo/clean run.  I would make it a 4/1 shot with no margin tbh and that is only based on the fact it looks certain to get a lead and clear run early.  If it doesn't lead early then i can't get how it can win as there are a few big staying types in the race.  Don't forget that show is betting to 136%.  6% a runner so take 6% off the 5/2 (28.5%) and you got 22.5% or 7/2 to 100%.  Still don't think i would be backing it at 7/2 tbh.

I wouldn't want to be laying 6/1 about the big stayer in t5 tbh.

http://www.oddschecker.com/greyhounds/central-park/21:19/winner

Afternoon bfsb loltraders and irish rofflers!  Nice to know you are still tuning into TFT you clueless bunch of mugs!  You actually pushed the t5 out to 7/1 from 6/1 after cutting the fav in t3 then a minute later cut it into 5/1 as you got towards reading the end of my post from odds checker price movement records!!  So funny you have to laugh.  Prove if there was ever needed that you move your prices off air and not money.  Please post and explain why the 5 dog went from 6/1 to 7/1 then back into 5/1 in the space of 2 minutes otherwise!!!

http://www.oddschecker.com/greyhounds/central-park/21:19/winner/bet-history/ravefield-molly/today
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« Reply #125830 on: February 19, 2017, 02:51:47 PM »

Imagine paying your Kennel bill to own a virtual dog!!  that would be incredible.  Good luck tonight.

Ha most owners never even go to the kennels so could happen!
Ha what you think? Decent value there later?

http://greyhoundbet.racingpost.com/#card/race_id=1511466&r_date=2017-02-19&tab=form

I wouldn't be making it the joint fav tbh.  5/2 looks plenty short enough.  It is well drawn on the rails with t2 not a natural looking railer which moves middle.  It should get a solo on the rails and lead up but has plenty to find on the clock (which it could easily do at 21 months old) but it is the slowest dog in the race on known form.  Got 3.5 lengths to find with t3 on the clock.  Other dogs have also done faster times in trouble in their previous races.  Your best time was done with an effective solo/clean run.  I would make it a 4/1 shot with no margin tbh and that is only based on the fact it looks certain to get a lead and clear run early.  If it doesn't lead early then i can't get how it can win as there are a few big staying types in the race.  Don't forget that show is betting to 136%.  6% a runner so take 6% off the 5/2 (28.5%) and you got 22.5% or 7/2 to 100%.  Still don't think i would be backing it at 7/2 tbh.

I wouldn't want to be laying 6/1 about the big stayer in t5 tbh.

http://www.oddschecker.com/greyhounds/central-park/21:19/winner

Afternoon bfsb loltraders and irish rofflers!  Nice to know you are still tuning into TFT you clueless bunch of mugs!  You actually pushed the t5 out to 7/1 from 6/1 then a minute later cut it into 5/1 as you got towards reading the end of my post from odds checker price movement records!!  So funny you have to laugh.  Prove if there was ever needed that you move your prices off air and not money.  Please post and explain why the 5 dog went from 6/1 to 7/1 then back into 5/1 in the space of 2 minutes otherwise!!!

http://www.oddschecker.com/greyhounds/central-park/21:19/winner/bet-history/ravefield-molly/today

I think you have misread oddschecker, it looks like nearly an hour between the move from 7/1 and that to 5/1.  Surely it is likely to be someone/some people with fat fingers in a market with little liquidity several hours in advance.  I guess it wouldn't take much more than a few hundred to make that move. 

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« Reply #125831 on: February 19, 2017, 02:55:38 PM »

Imagine paying your Kennel bill to own a virtual dog!!  that would be incredible.  Good luck tonight.

Ha most owners never even go to the kennels so could happen!
Ha what you think? Decent value there later?

http://greyhoundbet.racingpost.com/#card/race_id=1511466&r_date=2017-02-19&tab=form

I wouldn't be making it the joint fav tbh.  5/2 looks plenty short enough.  It is well drawn on the rails with t2 not a natural looking railer which moves middle.  It should get a solo on the rails and lead up but has plenty to find on the clock (which it could easily do at 21 months old) but it is the slowest dog in the race on known form.  Got 3.5 lengths to find with t3 on the clock.  Other dogs have also done faster times in trouble in their previous races.  Your best time was done with an effective solo/clean run.  I would make it a 4/1 shot with no margin tbh and that is only based on the fact it looks certain to get a lead and clear run early.  If it doesn't lead early then i can't get how it can win as there are a few big staying types in the race.  Don't forget that show is betting to 136%.  6% a runner so take 6% off the 5/2 (28.5%) and you got 22.5% or 7/2 to 100%.  Still don't think i would be backing it at 7/2 tbh.

I wouldn't want to be laying 6/1 about the big stayer in t5 tbh.

http://www.oddschecker.com/greyhounds/central-park/21:19/winner

Afternoon bfsb loltraders and irish rofflers!  Nice to know you are still tuning into TFT you clueless bunch of mugs!  You actually pushed the t5 out to 7/1 from 6/1 then a minute later cut it into 5/1 as you got towards reading the end of my post from odds checker price movement records!!  So funny you have to laugh.  Prove if there was ever needed that you move your prices off air and not money.  Please post and explain why the 5 dog went from 6/1 to 7/1 then back into 5/1 in the space of 2 minutes otherwise!!!

http://www.oddschecker.com/greyhounds/central-park/21:19/winner/bet-history/ravefield-molly/today

I think you have misread oddschecker, it looks like nearly an hour between the move from 7/1 and that to 5/1.  Surely it is likely to be someone/some people with fat fingers in a market with little liquidity several hours in advance.  I guess it wouldn't take much more than a few hundred to make that move. 



I did mis read it.  The lines are so narrow.  Apologies loltraders.  Maybe it was your lunch hour and you came back to it half way through.
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« Reply #125832 on: February 19, 2017, 02:57:27 PM »

Imagine paying your Kennel bill to own a virtual dog!!  that would be incredible.  Good luck tonight.

Ha most owners never even go to the kennels so could happen!
Ha what you think? Decent value there later?

http://greyhoundbet.racingpost.com/#card/race_id=1511466&r_date=2017-02-19&tab=form

I wouldn't be making it the joint fav tbh.  5/2 looks plenty short enough.  It is well drawn on the rails with t2 not a natural looking railer which moves middle.  It should get a solo on the rails and lead up but has plenty to find on the clock (which it could easily do at 21 months old) but it is the slowest dog in the race on known form.  Got 3.5 lengths to find with t3 on the clock.  Other dogs have also done faster times in trouble in their previous races.  Your best time was done with an effective solo/clean run.  I would make it a 4/1 shot with no margin tbh and that is only based on the fact it looks certain to get a lead and clear run early.  If it doesn't lead early then i can't get how it can win as there are a few big staying types in the race.  Don't forget that show is betting to 136%.  6% a runner so take 6% off the 5/2 (28.5%) and you got 22.5% or 7/2 to 100%.  Still don't think i would be backing it at 7/2 tbh.

I wouldn't want to be laying 6/1 about the big stayer in t5 tbh.

http://www.oddschecker.com/greyhounds/central-park/21:19/winner

Afternoon bfsb loltraders and irish rofflers!  Nice to know you are still tuning into TFT you clueless bunch of mugs!  You actually pushed the t5 out to 7/1 from 6/1 then a minute later cut it into 5/1 as you got towards reading the end of my post from odds checker price movement records!!  So funny you have to laugh.  Prove if there was ever needed that you move your prices off air and not money.  Please post and explain why the 5 dog went from 6/1 to 7/1 then back into 5/1 in the space of 2 minutes otherwise!!!

http://www.oddschecker.com/greyhounds/central-park/21:19/winner/bet-history/ravefield-molly/today

I think you have misread oddschecker, it looks like nearly an hour between the move from 7/1 and that to 5/1.  Surely it is likely to be someone/some people with fat fingers in a market with little liquidity several hours in advance.  I guess it wouldn't take much more than a few hundred to make that move. 



Would take substantially less than a few hundred to move any early dog prices nowadays! Quite ridiculous really.
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« Reply #125833 on: February 19, 2017, 02:59:36 PM »

Imagine paying your Kennel bill to own a virtual dog!!  that would be incredible.  Good luck tonight.

Ha most owners never even go to the kennels so could happen!
Ha what you think? Decent value there later?

http://greyhoundbet.racingpost.com/#card/race_id=1511466&r_date=2017-02-19&tab=form

I wouldn't be making it the joint fav tbh.  5/2 looks plenty short enough.  It is well drawn on the rails with t2 not a natural looking railer which moves middle.  It should get a solo on the rails and lead up but has plenty to find on the clock (which it could easily do at 21 months old) but it is the slowest dog in the race on known form.  Got 3.5 lengths to find with t3 on the clock.  Other dogs have also done faster times in trouble in their previous races.  Your best time was done with an effective solo/clean run.  I would make it a 4/1 shot with no margin tbh and that is only based on the fact it looks certain to get a lead and clear run early.  If it doesn't lead early then i can't get how it can win as there are a few big staying types in the race.  Don't forget that show is betting to 136%.  6% a runner so take 6% off the 5/2 (28.5%) and you got 22.5% or 7/2 to 100%.  Still don't think i would be backing it at 7/2 tbh.

I wouldn't want to be laying 6/1 about the big stayer in t5 tbh.

http://www.oddschecker.com/greyhounds/central-park/21:19/winner

Afternoon bfsb loltraders and irish rofflers!  Nice to know you are still tuning into TFT you clueless bunch of mugs!  You actually pushed the t5 out to 7/1 from 6/1 then a minute later cut it into 5/1 as you got towards reading the end of my post from odds checker price movement records!!  So funny you have to laugh.  Prove if there was ever needed that you move your prices off air and not money.  Please post and explain why the 5 dog went from 6/1 to 7/1 then back into 5/1 in the space of 2 minutes otherwise!!!

http://www.oddschecker.com/greyhounds/central-park/21:19/winner/bet-history/ravefield-molly/today

I think you have misread oddschecker, it looks like nearly an hour between the move from 7/1 and that to 5/1.  Surely it is likely to be someone/some people with fat fingers in a market with little liquidity several hours in advance.  I guess it wouldn't take much more than a few hundred to make that move. 



Would take substantially less than a few hundred to move any early dog prices nowadays! Quite ridiculous really.

The first bet larger than £20 would move a price imo at this time of the morning or simply just tuning into tft and reading a post.  We should try it one time and send them the wrong way ala Mardle/Dubai coup just to prove they read this place and move off air.
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« Reply #125834 on: February 19, 2017, 03:06:36 PM »

GOOOOOOOOO  FLEETWOOD


Only pre season bet still with legs ,got a sweat at least.
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