Independence Referendum

[redsimon]

Even if its a Yes vote it wont happen until 2016 so 2015 GE will be fought under existing system with Scottish MPs.

[arbboy]

Even if its a Yes vote it wont happen until 2016 so 2015 GE will be fought under existing system with Scottish MPs.

cheers Simon that would explain why firms are still betting as if nothing is happening.  Like Dung says though it's pretty worrying how the jocks will be allowed to vote for the next 5 years when they won't be a part of it for the whole duration.

[Eck]

Even if its a Yes vote it wont happen until 2016 so 2015 GE will be fought under existing system with Scottish MPs.

cheers Simon that would explain why firms are still betting as if nothing is happening.  Like Dung says though it's pretty worrying how the jocks will be allowed to vote for the next 5 years when they won't be a part of it for the whole duration.

Terrible isn't it....imagine getting a government your country didn't elect......

[TightEnd]

Even if its a Yes vote it wont happen until 2016 so 2015 GE will be fought under existing system with Scottish MPs.

cheers Simon that would explain why firms are still betting as if nothing is happening.  Like Dung says though it's pretty worrying how the jocks will be allowed to vote for the next 5 years when they won't be a part of it for the whole duration.

Terrible isn't it....imagine getting a government your country didn't elect......

but currently you are part of the United Kingdom. It did not elect a majority government so, as in many countries, two minority parties combined to form a coalition

most likely the same will happen again in 2015 (lab-lib)

the argument that "we did not get the government we elected" is one of the most fatuous of all arguments. Its a democracy, a political fact of life across the world that governments are elected without majorities in some areas of the united kingdom

if and when scotland is independent, a minority government is likely at some stage too, so will those disaffected then trot out the same "got a governemnt we didn't elect" for whatever coalition forms then?

[DungBeetle]

You get one vote.  I get one vote.  Seems fair.

If the government is different to my local MP I don't complain that I've got a government my constituency didn't vote for.

What doesn't seem fair is for Scotland to lumber us with Miliband for 5 years when they've only got to suffer him for 20% of the term and don't have to endure any long term damage he may cause!  Not that the Tories have any more clue, but you get my point.

[DungBeetle]

That was to Eck, not Tighty of course.

[Eck]

Even if its a Yes vote it wont happen until 2016 so 2015 GE will be fought under existing system with Scottish MPs.

cheers Simon that would explain why firms are still betting as if nothing is happening.  Like Dung says though it's pretty worrying how the jocks will be allowed to vote for the next 5 years when they won't be a part of it for the whole duration.

Terrible isn't it....imagine getting a government your country didn't elect......

but currently you are part of the United Kingdom. It did not elect a majority government so, as in many countries, two minority parties combined to form a coalition

most likely the same will happen again in 2015 (lab-lib)

the argument that "we did not get the government we elected" is one of the most fatuous of all arguments. Its a democracy, a political fact of life across the world that governments are elected without majorities in some areas of the united kingdom

if and when scotland is independent, a minority government is likely at some stage too, so will those disaffected then trot out the same "got a governemnt we didn't elect" for whatever coalition forms then?

Thanks for all that Tighty/Dung, will refrain from making any attempts at frivolous comments from now on.

[TightEnd]

Even if its a Yes vote it wont happen until 2016 so 2015 GE will be fought under existing system with Scottish MPs.

cheers Simon that would explain why firms are still betting as if nothing is happening.  Like Dung says though it's pretty worrying how the jocks will be allowed to vote for the next 5 years when they won't be a part of it for the whole duration.

Terrible isn't it....imagine getting a government your country didn't elect......

but currently you are part of the United Kingdom. It did not elect a majority government so, as in many countries, two minority parties combined to form a coalition

most likely the same will happen again in 2015 (lab-lib)

the argument that "we did not get the government we elected" is one of the most fatuous of all arguments. Its a democracy, a political fact of life across the world that governments are elected without majorities in some areas of the united kingdom

if and when scotland is independent, a minority government is likely at some stage too, so will those disaffected then trot out the same "got a governemnt we didn't elect" for whatever coalition forms then?

Thanks for all that Tighty/Dung, will refrain from making any attempts at frivolous comments from now on.

oops, add a smiley next time (sorry, off soap box)

[DungBeetle]

Sorry Eck - misinterpreted the tone!

[Eck]

Even if its a Yes vote it wont happen until 2016 so 2015 GE will be fought under existing system with Scottish MPs.

cheers Simon that would explain why firms are still betting as if nothing is happening.  Like Dung says though it's pretty worrying how the jocks will be allowed to vote for the next 5 years when they won't be a part of it for the whole duration.

Terrible isn't it....imagine getting a government your country didn't elect......

but currently you are part of the United Kingdom. It did not elect a majority government so, as in many countries, two minority parties combined to form a coalition

most likely the same will happen again in 2015 (lab-lib)

the argument that "we did not get the government we elected" is one of the most fatuous of all arguments. Its a democracy, a political fact of life across the world that governments are elected without majorities in some areas of the united kingdom

if and when scotland is independent, a minority government is likely at some stage too, so will those disaffected then trot out the same "got a governemnt we didn't elect" for whatever coalition forms then?

Thanks for all that Tighty/Dung, will refrain from making any attempts at frivolous comments from now on.

oops, add a smiley next time (sorry, off soap box)

No probs - you are correct though definite miss of the smiley usage there.

3k posts in about 8 years - still a newb really - must have one of the lowest post rates going. Think Tal passed me in about a day..

[celtic]

Even if its a Yes vote it wont happen until 2016 so 2015 GE will be fought under existing system with Scottish MPs.

cheers Simon that would explain why firms are still betting as if nothing is happening.  Like Dung says though it's pretty worrying how the jocks will be allowed to vote for the next 5 years when they won't be a part of it for the whole duration.

Terrible isn't it....imagine getting a government your country didn't elect......

but currently you are part of the United Kingdom. It did not elect a majority government so, as in many countries, two minority parties combined to form a coalition

most likely the same will happen again in 2015 (lab-lib)

the argument that "we did not get the government we elected" is one of the most fatuous of all arguments. Its a democracy, a political fact of life across the world that governments are elected without majorities in some areas of the united kingdom

if and when scotland is independent, a minority government is likely at some stage too, so will those disaffected then trot out the same "got a governemnt we didn't elect" for whatever coalition forms then?

Thanks for all that Tighty/Dung, will refrain from making any attempts at frivolous comments from now on.

oops, add a smiley next time (sorry, off soap box)

No probs - you are correct though definite miss of the smiley usage there.

3k posts in about 8 years - still a newb really - must have one of the lowest post rates going. Think Tal passed me in about a hour...

FYP

[redsimon]

Even if its a Yes vote it wont happen until 2016 so 2015 GE will be fought under existing system with Scottish MPs.

cheers Simon that would explain why firms are still betting as if nothing is happening.  Like Dung says though it's pretty worrying how the jocks will be allowed to vote for the next 5 years when they won't be a part of it for the whole duration.

I think the status of the Scots MPs would be they sit until "Independence Day" then they go?

http://nottspolitics.org/2013/03/06/what-will-become-of-the-may-2015-uk-parliament-if-scotland-votes-yes-on-independence/

[BorntoBubble]

Even if its a Yes vote it wont happen until 2016 so 2015 GE will be fought under existing system with Scottish MPs.

cheers Simon that would explain why firms are still betting as if nothing is happening.  Like Dung says though it's pretty worrying how the jocks will be allowed to vote for the next 5 years when they won't be a part of it for the whole duration.

Terrible isn't it....imagine getting a government your country didn't elect......

but currently you are part of the United Kingdom. It did not elect a majority government so, as in many countries, two minority parties combined to form a coalition

most likely the same will happen again in 2015 (lab-lib)

the argument that "we did not get the government we elected" is one of the most fatuous of all arguments. Its a democracy, a political fact of life across the world that governments are elected without majorities in some areas of the united kingdom

if and when scotland is independent, a minority government is likely at some stage too, so will those disaffected then trot out the same "got a governemnt we didn't elect" for whatever coalition forms then?

Thanks for all that Tighty/Dung, will refrain from making any attempts at frivolous comments from now on.

oops, add a smiley next time (sorry, off soap box)

No probs - you are correct though definite miss of the smiley usage there.

3k posts in about 8 years - still a newb really - must have one of the lowest post rates going. Think Tal passed me in about a hour...

FYP

Suprised tal has not been involved here! Fingers I many pies that man, if only he was Scottish!

Btw really enjoying the debate in here.

Out of interest Arrboy (and please feel free to say fuck off I'm not saying you nosey basterd) do you stand to win/lose on any side of this bet, or have all your bets been arbs?

[TightEnd]

Even if its a Yes vote it wont happen until 2016 so 2015 GE will be fought under existing system with Scottish MPs.

cheers Simon that would explain why firms are still betting as if nothing is happening.  Like Dung says though it's pretty worrying how the jocks will be allowed to vote for the next 5 years when they won't be a part of it for the whole duration.

I think the status of the Scots MPs would be they sit until "Independence Day" then they go?

http://nottspolitics.org/2013/03/06/what-will-become-of-the-may-2015-uk-parliament-if-scotland-votes-yes-on-independence/

very interesting.

[arbboy]

Even if its a Yes vote it wont happen until 2016 so 2015 GE will be fought under existing system with Scottish MPs.

cheers Simon that would explain why firms are still betting as if nothing is happening.  Like Dung says though it's pretty worrying how the jocks will be allowed to vote for the next 5 years when they won't be a part of it for the whole duration.

Terrible isn't it....imagine getting a government your country didn't elect......

but currently you are part of the United Kingdom. It did not elect a majority government so, as in many countries, two minority parties combined to form a coalition

most likely the same will happen again in 2015 (lab-lib)

the argument that "we did not get the government we elected" is one of the most fatuous of all arguments. Its a democracy, a political fact of life across the world that governments are elected without majorities in some areas of the united kingdom

if and when scotland is independent, a minority government is likely at some stage too, so will those disaffected then trot out the same "got a governemnt we didn't elect" for whatever coalition forms then?

Thanks for all that Tighty/Dung, will refrain from making any attempts at frivolous comments from now on.

oops, add a smiley next time (sorry, off soap box)

No probs - you are correct though definite miss of the smiley usage there.

3k posts in about 8 years - still a newb really - must have one of the lowest post rates going. Think Tal passed me in about a hour...

FYP

Suprised tal has not been involved here! Fingers I many pies that man, if only he was Scottish!

Btw really enjoying the debate in here.

Out of interest Arrboy (and please feel free to say fuck off I'm not saying you nosey basterd) do you stand to win/lose on any side of this bet, or have all your bets been arbs?

No arbs i have had 4 bets on the event.  

No vote at 1/4 bald
45-50 yes vote % 7/2 lads
over 75% turnout 1.85 bwin
over 42.5% yes vote 10/11 lads