Independence Referendum

[Kmac84]

Stick with it!

[Somerled]

I boycotted a pack of Scottish strawberries today in favour of a pack from Yorkshire 

Was actually going to ask that very question as I have no idea.

This is only for the non-Scots by the way.

If we do have a yes vote, would you be affected in your buying choices? if, for example, there were 3 items of comparable price and quality, 1 Scottish, 1 English, 1 from Spain would you be more or less likely to buy the Scottish one, or would it make no difference at all?

Haven't seen any information on this at all, and it's way more important than trading with EU for example.

[Woodsey]

I boycotted a pack of Scottish strawberries today in favour of a pack from Yorkshire 

Was actually going to ask that very question as I have no idea.

This is only for the non-Scots by the way.

If we do have a yes vote, would you be affected in your buying choices? if, for example, there were 3 items of comparable price and quality, 1 Scottish, 1 English, 1 from Spain would you be more or less likely to buy the Scottish one, or would it make no difference at all?

Haven't seen any information on this at all, and it's way more important than trading with EU for example.

I will always buy an English brand over any foreign brand where possible if it's as good.

[horseplayer]

More Ed Miliband speech "I grew up in the 1980s against the backdrop of the Miners’ strike and Mrs Thatcher" - (in a Primrose Hill mansion.)

At this rate Salmond will be paying them to stay longer

Can someone who wasn't personally affected by a situation not stand up for the people who suffered?

If they were genuine yes. 

I am sure Ed had a real tough upbringing


cough

[DungBeetle]

I certainly don't think a "yes" vote would cause me to stop buying Scottish stuff just because they want to be their own country (all other things being equal).

[kinboshi]

More Ed Miliband speech "I grew up in the 1980s against the backdrop of the Miners’ strike and Mrs Thatcher" - (in a Primrose Hill mansion.)

At this rate Salmond will be paying them to stay longer

Can someone who wasn't personally affected by a situation not stand up for the people who suffered?

If they were genuine yes. 

I am sure Ed had a real tough upbringing


cough

Why does that matter?  Tony Benn hardly had a tough upbringing, but he could speak for the working class?  Better to criticise people for what they do, rather than the situation they were born into - surely?

[kinboshi]

I boycotted a pack of Scottish strawberries today in favour of a pack from Yorkshire 

Was actually going to ask that very question as I have no idea.

This is only for the non-Scots by the way.

If we do have a yes vote, would you be affected in your buying choices? if, for example, there were 3 items of comparable price and quality, 1 Scottish, 1 English, 1 from Spain would you be more or less likely to buy the Scottish one, or would it make no difference at all?

Haven't seen any information on this at all, and it's way more important than trading with EU for example.

Beer from Loch Ness, obviously.

[arbboy]

I boycotted a pack of Scottish strawberries today in favour of a pack from Yorkshire 

Was actually going to ask that very question as I have no idea.

This is only for the non-Scots by the way.

If we do have a yes vote, would you be affected in your buying choices? if, for example, there were 3 items of comparable price and quality, 1 Scottish, 1 English, 1 from Spain would you be more or less likely to buy the Scottish one, or would it make no difference at all?

Haven't seen any information on this at all, and it's way more important than trading with EU for example.

i would be indifferent personally.

[TightEnd]

i do think the no campaign has been horrendous

guidofawkes (from a right wing perspective so NOT a neutral view of course) has just put out this, the blame game etc etc.

http://order-order.com/2014/09/10/labour-in-scotland-dont-believe-the-hype/

real miscalculations to my eyes on devo-max this late in the game, sending retired politicians up etc etc

[arbboy]

i do think the no campaign has been horrendous

guidofawkes (from a right wing perspective so NOT a neutral view of course) has just put out this, the blame game etc etc.

http://order-order.com/2014/09/10/labour-in-scotland-dont-believe-the-hype/

real miscalculations to my eyes on devo-max this late in the game, sending retired politicians up etc etc

They thought it was a no contest early on tbf and gifted the Yes boys all the momentum.  Would have been much easier to get it locked up early on rather than what looks like a mad panic now.  Very badly planned campaign though.

[OverTheBorder]

Are we chipping in for their moving van too?

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29142436

[Archer]

Wow! I leave it for a few days and merry hell breaks loose.

Referring to people as Quislings is beyond contempt, and exactly the kind of rubbish that makes me sick to the back teeth of the whole campaign.

Quick point I was making to someone on Twitter today re Exports. Business for Scotland (a pathetic laughable organisation) put up a letter signed by 40 "internationally renowned" business leaders - some of whom owned pubs, some were chefs, at least 90% of them have never exported anything. Anyway, the crux of their statement was that Scottish food & drink exports will flourish in an iScotland. Because......welll, just because they will.

The true position is that Scottish F&D exports ARE flourishing. Now. Right now. And WILL continue to do so for the forseeable future. Unless we tear apart the system which is working so well.

The chap on twitter pointed out to me how Scottish exports subsidise Westminster. Which given that there's no VAT or Duty paid on exports is somewhat hard to fathom. What exports do is create jobs in Scotland, and every product sold abroad is an advert for Scottish tourism. Why on earth would anyone want to lose that? Would we lose all these exports? Of course not. Would creating a new system be awkward and expensive? Of course. Is it needed or even desirable? No.

Not just my views, the views of every other Scottish company I've dealt with over the last year or so. Most of whom are too scared to officially declare themselves "No" for the reasons perfectly illustrated on here by KMac. There also still many folk who still believe that their vote is a private thing and don't feel the need to shout it from the rooftops. Most of them will be happily voting No.

Around here (the highlands) many many No signs and banners have been torn down. No doubt some Yes ones have too but the vast majority of that type of behaviour is confined to the Yes camp. Is that down to pure passion? Maybe. But it's sorely misplaced.

This is one of the best pieces I've read on the whole campaign, particularly when it explains the SNP "positivity" campaign. Largely PR Spin and media manipulation - the very stuff most Yessers profess to despise. Sigh.

http://www.scottishreview.net/CarolCraig172.shtml

I'll pop back in another few days and see what's happened....

So glad you posted that link.

I too have read extensively on the whole campaign and think this  is absolutely excellent.

[arbboy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2750701/Double-blow-Salmond-Scottish-finance-giant-Standard-Life-reveals-plan-England-separation-fears-oil-giant-rubbishes-SNP-s-North-Sea-oil-claims.html

More quotes, via the DM sorry, from Scottish business leaders.

[ripple11]

Wow! I leave it for a few days and merry hell breaks loose.

Referring to people as Quislings is beyond contempt, and exactly the kind of rubbish that makes me sick to the back teeth of the whole campaign.

Quick point I was making to someone on Twitter today re Exports. Business for Scotland (a pathetic laughable organisation) put up a letter signed by 40 "internationally renowned" business leaders - some of whom owned pubs, some were chefs, at least 90% of them have never exported anything. Anyway, the crux of their statement was that Scottish food & drink exports will flourish in an iScotland. Because......welll, just because they will.

The true position is that Scottish F&D exports ARE flourishing. Now. Right now. And WILL continue to do so for the forseeable future. Unless we tear apart the system which is working so well.

The chap on twitter pointed out to me how Scottish exports subsidise Westminster. Which given that there's no VAT or Duty paid on exports is somewhat hard to fathom. What exports do is create jobs in Scotland, and every product sold abroad is an advert for Scottish tourism. Why on earth would anyone want to lose that? Would we lose all these exports? Of course not. Would creating a new system be awkward and expensive? Of course. Is it needed or even desirable? No.

Not just my views, the views of every other Scottish company I've dealt with over the last year or so. Most of whom are too scared to officially declare themselves "No" for the reasons perfectly illustrated on here by KMac. There also still many folk who still believe that their vote is a private thing and don't feel the need to shout it from the rooftops. Most of them will be happily voting No.

Around here (the highlands) many many No signs and banners have been torn down. No doubt some Yes ones have too but the vast majority of that type of behaviour is confined to the Yes camp. Is that down to pure passion? Maybe. But it's sorely misplaced.

This is one of the best pieces I've read on the whole campaign, particularly when it explains the SNP "positivity" campaign. Largely PR Spin and media manipulation - the very stuff most Yessers profess to despise. Sigh.

http://www.scottishreview.net/CarolCraig172.shtml

I'll pop back in another few days and see what's happened....

So glad you posted that link.

I too have read extensively on the whole campaign and think this  is absolutely excellent.

Yes excellent .

[Ironside]

arbbhoy quoting DM isn't hard to find something to back up the NO campaign, DM are flying the flag for the NO campaigners you might as well link to a better together article on there own website it will be more impartial

ok I know the yes camp on here are linking to wingsoverscotland stuff etc but not of these articles on either side are impartial and should be read with a pinch of salt


I do believe the bbc is impartial despite the yes campaign thinking the opposite