Independence Referendum

[arbboy]

assume another poll is being released tonight and/or the sun is supporting yes as yes is under 2/1 on bf for the first time right now.

[horseplayer]

Yes dropped below 2/1 on the machine for the first time (since it got close)

Graph only heading one way at present

[nirvana]

all this last minute stuff from Westminster has to be counterproductive doesn't it?

if they meant it, they would have offered it years ago?

if i was a maybe-yes, fairly sure it would tip me over the edge to sticking two fingers up at Gordon Brown who has been wheeled out to front No over the last week!

That's exactly how I would think and believe it might prove later to have been a turning point in a yes win - who knows.

Also, think it has wider consequences in time. Aren't the other parts of the UK bound to feel somewhat disaffected by what will seem like Scotland getting something more on top of the things that are already wheeled out like free prescriptions, free tuition fees. All very interesting

[Teacake]

assume another poll is being released tonight and/or the sun is supporting yes as yes is under 2/1 on bf for the first time right now.

TNS face to face poll due out later tonight apparently that is rumoured to be

39% No, 38% Yes, 23%

For context last TNS poll on Aug 7th was

45 No, 32 Yes. 23

All to play for but momentum very much with Yes.

[Rod Paradise]

all this last minute stuff from Westminster has to be counterproductive doesn't it?

if they meant it, they would have offered it years ago?

if i was a maybe-yes, fairly sure it would tip me over the edge to sticking two fingers up at Gordon Brown who has been wheeled out to front No over the last week!

A complete farce Tighty - legally they've signed an agreement that no new announcements or policies can be announced in the last month before the vote, purdah is what it's been referred to. So Osborne declares it, then Darling says it's just a timetable to the (different) additional powers they had all offered before, most of which were agreed in 2012 for implementation in 2016 anyway.

If they ignore the Edinburgh agreement they can make a better offer, but it opens the chances of a court appeal and a re-run - which would take a while and have them all caught in the cleft stick of needing to keep to their timetable while electioneering an England hostile to any extra powers for Scotland....

[arbboy]

assume another poll is being released tonight and/or the sun is supporting yes as yes is under 2/1 on bf for the first time right now.

TNS face to face poll due out later tonight apparently that is rumoured to be

39% No, 38% Yes, 23%

For context last TNS poll on Aug 7th was

45 No, 32 Yes. 23

All to play for but momentum very much with Yes.

ty teacake

[Teacake]

Spain without the sunshine?  

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/08/opinion/paul-krugman-scots-what-the-heck.html?_r=3

I am more concerned by this:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-29105565

I am going on holiday in November! Selfish fuckers wanting independence killing my Vegas fund! I am sure somewhere in the manifesto I will have been promised my holiday money top up so it will be fine

Hi mate, you made a point earlier about not having evidenced any DKs to Yes, I'm interested in which part of the country you are based if you don't mind sharing. Cheers.

I live in Kinglassie in Fife, I am from Edinburgh and I work in Glasgow.  So my friends are Edinburgh, my colleagues are Glasgow and my local friends are Fife.  I also work with people from Inverness to the Borders but I do not talk independence with them as it is a bit taboo to discuss in work time.  I do not talk it through with 1000's but am yet to speak to or see a clear mind changer.  I have seen a lot of maybes go to yes.

Cheers I misread your earlier post.

One of the reasons I ask is that Paddy has a market on which local authority returns the highest %age Yes vote and was wondering if Dundee if worth taking on at 1/3 seeing as I think the books have priced most markets incorrectly to date.

[Rod Paradise]

assume another poll is being released tonight and/or the sun is supporting yes as yes is under 2/1 on bf for the first time right now.

TNS face to face poll due out later tonight apparently that is rumoured to be

39% No, 38% Yes, 23%

For context last TNS poll on Aug 7th was

45 No, 32 Yes. 23

All to play for but momentum very much with Yes.

That's a result I'm happy with TNS take 3-4 weeks gathering their polling info, while Yes have made a sudden move in the last week. Can expect TNS to not have the full impact of it

[Rod Paradise]

Spain without the sunshine?  

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/08/opinion/paul-krugman-scots-what-the-heck.html?_r=3

I am more concerned by this:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-29105565

I am going on holiday in November! Selfish fuckers wanting independence killing my Vegas fund! I am sure somewhere in the manifesto I will have been promised my holiday money top up so it will be fine

Hi mate, you made a point earlier about not having evidenced any DKs to Yes, I'm interested in which part of the country you are based if you don't mind sharing. Cheers.

I live in Kinglassie in Fife, I am from Edinburgh and I work in Glasgow.  So my friends are Edinburgh, my colleagues are Glasgow and my local friends are Fife.  I also work with people from Inverness to the Borders but I do not talk independence with them as it is a bit taboo to discuss in work time.  I do not talk it through with 1000's but am yet to speak to or see a clear mind changer.  I have seen a lot of maybes go to yes.

Cheers I misread your earlier post.

One of the reasons I ask is that Paddy has a market on which local authority returns the highest %age Yes vote and was wondering if Dundee if worth taking on at 1/3 seeing as I think the books have priced most markets incorrectly to date.

RIC canvassing regularly has Dundee highest Yes.

[OverTheBorder]

Spain without the sunshine?  

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/08/opinion/paul-krugman-scots-what-the-heck.html?_r=3

I am more concerned by this:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-29105565

I am going on holiday in November! Selfish fuckers wanting independence killing my Vegas fund! I am sure somewhere in the manifesto I will have been promised my holiday money top up so it will be fine

Hi mate, you made a point earlier about not having evidenced any DKs to Yes, I'm interested in which part of the country you are based if you don't mind sharing. Cheers.

I live in Kinglassie in Fife, I am from Edinburgh and I work in Glasgow.  So my friends are Edinburgh, my colleagues are Glasgow and my local friends are Fife.  I also work with people from Inverness to the Borders but I do not talk independence with them as it is a bit taboo to discuss in work time.  I do not talk it through with 1000's but am yet to speak to or see a clear mind changer.  I have seen a lot of maybes go to yes.

Cheers I misread your earlier post.

One of the reasons I ask is that Paddy has a market on which local authority returns the highest %age Yes vote and was wondering if Dundee if worth taking on at 1/3 seeing as I think the books have priced most markets incorrectly to date.

I wouldn't rush to oppose Dundee, snp heartland, fife is fairly obviously a yes area, I have saltire bunting hanging from my block and would be the only no sign in the village if I had the balls to hang it up! Edinburgh and Glasgow with large financial industries will be nowhere near the same support.

[Teacake]

Spain without the sunshine?  

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/08/opinion/paul-krugman-scots-what-the-heck.html?_r=3

I am more concerned by this:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-29105565

I am going on holiday in November! Selfish fuckers wanting independence killing my Vegas fund! I am sure somewhere in the manifesto I will have been promised my holiday money top up so it will be fine

Hi mate, you made a point earlier about not having evidenced any DKs to Yes, I'm interested in which part of the country you are based if you don't mind sharing. Cheers.

I live in Kinglassie in Fife, I am from Edinburgh and I work in Glasgow.  So my friends are Edinburgh, my colleagues are Glasgow and my local friends are Fife.  I also work with people from Inverness to the Borders but I do not talk independence with them as it is a bit taboo to discuss in work time.  I do not talk it through with 1000's but am yet to speak to or see a clear mind changer.  I have seen a lot of maybes go to yes.

Cheers I misread your earlier post.

One of the reasons I ask is that Paddy has a market on which local authority returns the highest %age Yes vote and was wondering if Dundee if worth taking on at 1/3 seeing as I think the books have priced most markets incorrectly to date.

RIC canvassing regularly has Dundee highest Yes.

Cheers thats the sort of thing I was looking for, I thought Na h-Eileanan Siar might be a good ew runner but it's winner only and the book is probably priced to about 150%

[Ironside]

not sure who sky news are supporting if they are biased or not but this video seems to played straight down the middle and made me laugh

[Rod Paradise]

Cheers thats the sort of thing I was looking for, I thought Na h-Eileanan Siar might be a good ew runner but it's winner only and the book is probably priced to about 150%

Say the Western Isles FFS - I'm from South Scotland we don't have the Gaelic, I'd to google that ...

[Rod Paradise]

assume another poll is being released tonight and/or the sun is supporting yes as yes is under 2/1 on bf for the first time right now.

TNS face to face poll due out later tonight apparently that is rumoured to be

39% No, 38% Yes, 23%

For context last TNS poll on Aug 7th was

45 No, 32 Yes. 23

All to play for but momentum very much with Yes.

That's a result I'm happy with TNS take 3-4 weeks gathering their polling info, while Yes have made a sudden move in the last week. Can expect TNS to not have the full impact of it

Rumour bang on - full release leaked early...

http://tns-bmrb.co.uk/uploads/files/TNSUK_SOM2014Sep9_DataTables.pdf

[arbboy]

very lively betting market last 2 hours on betfair over £200k traded.  Yes has gone from 5/2 into 2/1 now back out to 5/2.