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mondatoo
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April 29, 2012, 10:32:40 PM »
Quote from: The Baron on April 29, 2012, 09:55:50 PM
Quote from: Josedinho on April 29, 2012, 09:50:49 PM
Rod nailed it, tongue in cheek or not, Roy makes poor teams better. That's sort of what England need for the Euros not sure he's the right long term choice but there isn't really strong competition which is why I'm pretty "meh" about the situation. I wouldn't choose him or Harry but if they get a crack at it then good luck to them.
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Everyone seems to think that Roy is the next England manager, but they are just looking at this point. The only reason they have been able to approach Roy is because simply it won't disrupt West Brom's season. Is he a good or bad choice? I don't think he's either.
At some point Harry will get an interview, because there is simply too much pressure on the FA not to at least interview him. But £10m in compensation and £5m in wages for him? It might just be too much after the FA's loose spending on wages for managers. People say he has spent loads of money with clubs, but the fact is he has still achieved with these clubs, so fact is he is a good manager. The players also want him, so big plus.
The one I think would be good for the job, like mentioned on here would be David Moyes. He has done brilliant at Everton without a budget. It will cost the FA a lot less money and he has half a decent brand of footie at Everton.
I am 80% sure it will be Harry though. From what Harry has said today and yesterday, he seems desperate for it.
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April 30, 2012, 12:23:09 PM »
Multiple sources have confirmed that Harry will not be interviewed
The FA, Bernstein in particular, is conservative.
I don't mind Hodgson, think the gets a bad press because he is (to quote Henry Winter) a broadsheet manager in a tabloid world
In much the same way as he was unpopular at Liverpool because he wasn't Dalglish, I expect the same might happen for England when it goes wrong, because he isn't Harry
Hodgson got the Swiss to 5th in the FIFA World Rankings, has done ok in a lot of places
We have I think only three players of genuine world class: Hart, A Cole and Rooney
In the Euros we have a job to get out of the group. France are more talented than us, Ukraine tough at home
I expect all of that will be ignored though if we fail. The ludicrous sense of entitlement that lots of fans have that England will do well in every tournament seems as misplaced to me as it was 10-15 years ago. Any manager is going to be set up to the fall boy for the tabloids in this environment
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I expect all of that will be ignored though if we fail. The ludicrous sense of entitlement that lots of fans have that England will do well in every tournament seems as misplaced to me as it was 10-15 years ago.
Really ? I agree regards the press overhyping, as per, but unlike other previous tournaments I haven't spoken to one person who even thinks we have a slight chance of winning the tournament. This is actually the 1st tournament where as a whole we seem pretty realistic about our chances, will be tough to get out the group but we should, then we'll need a lot of luck to get any further.
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April 30, 2012, 01:02:43 PM »
There really isn't much between Roy and Harry. If one is going to cost you £10m in compo and the other one isn't, it's a bit of a no brainer to pick the cheaper one.
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We have I think only three players of genuine world class: Hart
After one season at a high level?
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I don't think Joe Hart is World Class either, actually think he's overated albeit he is a good keeper. John Terry has never been up there with the best at int. level, Lampard and Gerrard have also never really done it for England so I'd say just Cole and Rooney.
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Joe Hart is beyond world class
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The word world class gets branded about way too much.
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Quote from: The Baron on April 30, 2012, 01:06:00 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on April 30, 2012, 12:23:09 PM
We have I think only three players of genuine world class: Hart
After one season at a high level?
Has been Man C's keeper for over 2 seasons now, with over 120 appearances
I think he is top class, behind Casillas/Neuer but pretty close. Only 25yo and getting better
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We're not going to have another long discussion about whether a particular player is 'World Class', something which doesn't even have a proper definition. are we?
Very few teams would not swap their keeper for Joe Hart - Real Madrid, Bayern, ?
Would Barca swap Valdes?
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Quote from: mondatoo on April 30, 2012, 01:02:37 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on April 30, 2012, 12:23:09 PM
I expect all of that will be ignored though if we fail. The ludicrous sense of entitlement that lots of fans have that England will do well in every tournament seems as misplaced to me as it was 10-15 years ago.
Really ? I agree regards the press overhyping, as per, but unlike other previous tournaments I haven't spoken to one person who even thinks we have a slight chance of winning the tournament. This is actually the 1st tournament where as a whole we seem pretty realistic about our chances, will be tough to get out the group but we should, then we'll need a lot of luck to get any further.
Got to agree with Mon - even on this thread there seems a far more realistic view than in previous years. It's quite disconcerting as I'm going to have to find another PC reason for wanting England to lose ;-)
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April 30, 2012, 01:22:17 PM »
Quote from: AndrewT on April 30, 2012, 01:20:09 PM
We're not going to have another long discussion about whether a particular player is 'World Class', something which doesn't even have a proper definition. are we?
Very few teams would not swap their keeper for Joe Hart - Real Madrid, Bayern, ?
Would Barca swap Valdes?
It's all subjective, of course
I'll take Hart A Cole and Rooney as the three Englishmen who would get into most if not all Euro Championship teams
I'll concede that Spain and Germany would happily keep Casillas and Neuer respectively, as would I
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Quote from: Rod Paradise on April 30, 2012, 01:21:34 PM
Quote from: mondatoo on April 30, 2012, 01:02:37 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on April 30, 2012, 12:23:09 PM
I expect all of that will be ignored though if we fail. The ludicrous sense of entitlement that lots of fans have that England will do well in every tournament seems as misplaced to me as it was 10-15 years ago.
Really ? I agree regards the press overhyping, as per, but unlike other previous tournaments I haven't spoken to one person who even thinks we have a slight chance of winning the tournament. This is actually the 1st tournament where as a whole we seem pretty realistic about our chances, will be tough to get out the group but we should, then we'll need a lot of luck to get any further.
Got to agree with Mon - even on this thread there seems a far more realistic view than in previous years. It's quite disconcerting as I'm going to have to find another PC reason for wanting England to lose ;-)
On here it is quite realistic yes. Not so realistic amongst the jingoistic English hordes whipped into a mock patriotic frenzy by the tabloids, I would suggest
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