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« Reply #90 on: July 19, 2012, 04:57:26 PM »

So when I put up a stacking thread selling at 1.8 Simon can put people off?

Don't think it will be the mods job to regulate the prices on offer.

But I'll have 3%.
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« Reply #91 on: July 19, 2012, 04:57:57 PM »

If Simon agrees and it's implemented, I think it's a really positive step for an already great part of the forum.
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« Reply #92 on: July 19, 2012, 04:58:37 PM »

ok, will discuss the principle with the team. See what they think
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« Reply #93 on: July 19, 2012, 05:00:52 PM »

James Keys in having an opinion shocker
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« Reply #94 on: July 19, 2012, 05:01:36 PM »

So when I put up a stacking thread selling at 1.8 Simon can put people off?

Don't think it will be the mods job to relate the prices on offer.

But I'll have 3%.
Lol. Keep getting guys saying they will buy but thus far I ain't found an event with a big enough buy in to accomadate everyone.
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« Reply #95 on: July 19, 2012, 05:04:56 PM »

Is Guy a grimmer? I quite like him

What Guy did to myself and other backers is basically the same as if Mondo were to just end his $35 180 man stake having lost a chunk and then start up a new thread a few weeks later without buying out. I highlighted this in his new staking thread which Longy has touched on in this thread. At the time no one really commented or gave a shit apart from Cos and thats mainly because were good friends. If it had been a more high profile, respected and prolific poster than myself (i.e Camel, Keys) then maybe more people would have taken notice
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« Reply #96 on: July 19, 2012, 05:06:55 PM »

If this does get implemented I do think it's key that everyone who posts on the Staking Board agrees to any decision made by the mod.

And will be prevented from future stakings if they don't.
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« Reply #97 on: July 19, 2012, 05:09:59 PM »

If this does get implemented I do think it's key that everyone who posts on the Staking Board agrees to any decision made by the mod.

And will be prevented from future stakings if they don't.

so using me as an example, if the mod said "no buy back allowed" on my proposal, i either agree or can never sell on blonde again?
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« Reply #98 on: July 19, 2012, 05:11:41 PM »

Is Guy a grimmer? I quite like him

What Guy did to myself and other backers is basically the same as if Mondo were to just end his $35 180 man stake having lost a chunk and then start up a new thread a few weeks later without buying out. I highlighted this in his new staking thread which Longy has touched on in this thread. At the time no one really commented or gave a shit apart from Cos and thats mainly because were good friends. If it had been a more high profile, respected and prolific poster than myself (i.e Camel, Keys) then maybe more people would have taken notice
Oh right. I never knew this and it does seem a pretty bad move on Guys part. Obv there may have been circumstances for it but I do take your point about people's attitudes towards different people. I love the banter and craic round this place up to the point were people fall out
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« Reply #99 on: July 19, 2012, 05:11:58 PM »

If this does get implemented I do think it's key that everyone who posts on the Staking Board agrees to any decision made by the mod.

And will be prevented from future stakings if they don't.

so using me as an example, if the mod said "no buy back allowed" on my proposal, i either agree or can never sell on blonde again?

Right.

That's how I see it working anyway.
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« Reply #100 on: July 19, 2012, 05:13:24 PM »

Is Guy a grimmer? I quite like him

What Guy did to myself and other backers is basically the same as if Mondo were to just end his $35 180 man stake having lost a chunk and then start up a new thread a few weeks later without buying out. I highlighted this in his new staking thread which Longy has touched on in this thread. At the time no one really commented or gave a shit apart from Cos and thats mainly because were good friends. If it had been a more high profile, respected and prolific poster than myself (i.e Camel, Keys) then maybe more people would have taken notice

Must admit I was totally unaware of this issue until Keys talked about it in Dreenies thread.

I don't want to comment too much because I don't know the details of the staking agreement.

However at face value it looks bang out of order.
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« Reply #101 on: July 19, 2012, 05:14:08 PM »

If this does get implemented I do think it's key that everyone who posts on the Staking Board agrees to any decision made by the mod.

And will be prevented from future stakings if they don't.

so using me as an example, if the mod said "no buy back allowed" on my proposal, i either agree or can never sell on blonde again?

Right.

That's how I see it working anyway.

Surely it works like that in regards to scamming, but not the buy back. I.e, if Bram refused this series, but came back with an EPT Barca post, with no buyback clause, then he should still be allowed to sell? Otherwise Railtard1/Guy have problems here. Does it work as a fresh slate for everyone? Lots to discuss for the higher ups.
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« Reply #102 on: July 19, 2012, 05:15:05 PM »

If this does get implemented I do think it's key that everyone who posts on the Staking Board agrees to any decision made by the mod.

And will be prevented from future stakings if they don't.

so using me as an example, if the mod said "no buy back allowed" on my proposal, i either agree or can never sell on blonde again?

Right.

That's how I see it working anyway.

Personally, I think that's too much of a straitjacket for a poster wanting to post on here

However, everyone chip in views and we'll consider.
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« Reply #103 on: July 19, 2012, 05:18:08 PM »

If this does get implemented I do think it's key that everyone who posts on the Staking Board agrees to any decision made by the mod.

And will be prevented from future stakings if they don't.

so using me as an example, if the mod said "no buy back allowed" on my proposal, i either agree or can never sell on blonde again?

Right.

That's how I see it working anyway.

Surely it works like that in regards to scamming, but not the buy back. I.e, if Bram refused this series, but came back with an EPT Barca post, with no buyback clause, then he should still be allowed to sell? Otherwise Railtard1/Guy have problems here. Does it work as a fresh slate for everyone? Lots to discuss for the higher ups.

Well, I don't think it would get that far.

If the Mod doesn't let Bram put the buyout clause in his staking request for the WSOP, the stake doesn't go ahead.

So he would be free to put a new request in for the EPT Barca as long as the same clause wasn't there.

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« Reply #104 on: July 19, 2012, 05:18:52 PM »

My responses to everything I've seen.

1) IMO, Keys' posts haven't been out of line out all, admittedly he could perhaps have used a little more tact in his wording, but then he's a bit of a c**k on the internet Cheesy people are being a little over-sensitive i feel.

2) Guy's handling of Amatay's questions was poor, and over defensive - I was the biggest shareholder of guys package and I wasn't annoyed about it because I didn't feel like guy had acted amliciously, or thought he was in the wrong, or was trying to angle. I was a little disappointed he didn't foresee how it could have come across and communicated it better - like I said though, I dont care about that

3) The railtard thread was a total joke, 90% of the opinons coming from people with about 3% knowledge of the whole situation, which is abso fine every is welcomed and encouraged to offer their opinions (by me espcially) then everyone has a go at people who do know a great deal about the situation. People defending marc on the back of his "great reformation" are pretty jokes as well, he stole money, and is paying it back, hardly behavior worthy of a medal is it. It should be considered to his credit that he said "ill grind my ass off and pay people back" and for the most part that's what he's done/doing, but it's not like he's saved a young girl from a burning tree or donated a kidney to a dying relative and is actually kind of irrelevant to the recent thread.

4) Simon Galloway for staking mod, not even close thumbs up


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