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[TightEnd]

the message reads

"If you've had your Sportingbet account restricted in the past we may be able to get you back in action there. Email support@bettingemporium.com"

worth a shot/nothing to lose

Prepare to be given a list of things you can't do, like bet on horses in the morning, bet ew in races they don't like and can only bet to win a pretty small amount.

Of course there is also the option of opening a new account using the affiliate link that BE have with a Sportingbet. Where when you lose they win, so it makes a difference to them if you can get more on. Do people that get re activated with Sporting Bet  by BE get moved on to the BE affiliate deal upon reactivation Rich?

Absolutely no idea. i copied the message from the front page of the site

i suspect anyone emailing who wants to know can ask.

either way Phil, the cynicism towards some people trying to establish a newish business is a bit baffling to me. It's as if being an entrepreneur, or making a business work is completely unacceptable.

the post on tftf earlier was completely off-beam, having a good old stab at people just for the sake of it and now you make one of the points again here?

Just odd, really.

It isn't odd at all Rich, do you really want me to post in detail instead. Do you think that would be better?

i don't mind Phil, its nothing to do with me but constant negative posting isn't helping anyone

all i do is try and make the forum a success in the face of some headwinds

[BigAdz]

I was interested to read as part of this BE evening both Sporting Bet and Sky are looking to offer and take some bets at inflated odds. At the time I chuckled. Enough said.


I just tried to see google the body slam from shab khan, and was bizarrely taken to a youtube video of Neil doing a Sporting Bet preview of the Champion Hurdle.

I watch most of what Neil has to say, and so watched this as I am always amused at Mr Wiseman pretending that Sporting Bet actually take decent bets. Normally you can hear him promising this, but his face tells a different tale!

I am a big Faugheen fan, and have got a decent amount on at decent odds, but Neil made a very good argument to cover this with an ew bet on Jezki.

Wiseman said SB would be laying Jezki at 6-1 for decent money.

As an experiment, as a blacked balled customer able to get a max of 10p on anything(even though I had a small losing account), I would deposit the mighty sum of £10 and take the now reduced price of 5-1(-ev, but worth it to find out). So i tried to take the 5-1 for £5 ew on a losing account on The Champion Hurdle,one of the biggest punting races of the year.

My initial bet was rejected and I was offered £4ew.

I suspect Sporting Bet, may not get the lions share of any cash floating about on the 7th March, if the evening is full of big punting shrewdies!

I am sure, that it will still be an entertaining evening though. Gl with it.

 

Pre race after timing.

Quite beautifully slipped in to a post about a totally different subject

I think it is all part of the tale old chap! Many on Fred know I am on Faugheen, but if you wish to add it to my portfolio of somewhat dubious aftertiming posts, knock yourself out!!

[JoeBeevers]

the message reads

"If you've had your Sportingbet account restricted in the past we may be able to get you back in action there. Email support@bettingemporium.com"

worth a shot/nothing to lose

Prepare to be given a list of things you can't do, like bet on horses in the morning, bet ew in races they don't like and can only bet to win a pretty small amount.

Of course there is also the option of opening a new account using the affiliate link that BE have with a Sportingbet. Where when you lose they win, so it makes a difference to them if you can get more on. Do people that get re activated with Sporting Bet  by BE get moved on to the BE affiliate deal upon reactivation Rich?

Phil,

What's it got to do with you and why do you care?

Yes we have various affiliation deals with bookmakers. Yes our business makes money from those affiliations. Some are based on profits and some on turn over or CPA. There is nothing at all wrong with that - it's all pretty standard. The deal we have affects the punter in no way whatsoever. The only difference or benefit a punter may have through signing up through BE is that we have some offers that are not generally available and often more importantly we have great relations in the industry that can help sometimes.

If our members only bet on our suggested selections they would win. It's that simple and we would be very happy if that was all they did. Betting £10 a point on all bets is showing a profit of over £13,000 (an average bet would be about £150 or 15 points). Do you think that our members should not be entitled to use their accounts how they wish? Should they have other bets that lose we may earn from our affiliation. We are running a business and we make no apology for that. It's one of the ways that we make money running our business. Or do you not think that people should run businesses? We are running a business that employs staff and pays taxes. Do you think we should do all the work we do and all the energy we spend on running it for free or something?


With regards to Sportingbet. They are aware that a number of accounts in the past have been heavily restricted. They also know that we are aware of a lot of these and a lot of BE members are restricted. Yes there may be certain rules that accounts have to follow to get unrestricted such as not always backing horses in the morning or night before that shorten or not line tracking on Oddschecker. If by agreeing to things like that you can get your account unrestricted so you can use it then great. It you don't want to agree to that then that is your loss. We have succeeded in getting a number of accounts unrestricted already and have many happy punters. Some have even thanked us for helping them to understand why accounts get restricted and what bookmakers look for.

Fair play is better than no play.

I'm a bit confused. Do you think that everyone should be able to bet on anything for any amount at any time of the night or day? You seem disappointed that you can't and you seem to be criticising us as a result. Do you think you could have a word with your bosses at Bet365 to get my 0.1% account unrestricted please?

So take your cynicism elsewhere Mr Quayle. I would have thought someone who had been in the industry working for high profile bookmakers would know better. Or are you just having another snipe at BE and our business?

Adz, If your account is restricted as you say then you wouldn't have been able to get the £50 ew without contacting @sportingbetruss on Twitter first. If you would like your account looked at we can get that sorted out for you. We have a good success rate but it's not 100%, some accounts are unsalvageable and we'll explain details if you email us. Please email full name and username to support@bettingemporium.com and we'll see if we can help.

With regards to the Cheltenham Preview night, yes Sportingbet and Sky will be doing special offers and enhanced prices for attendees. Why not come along and meet the people involved? You might just learn something, have some fun, and get a decent bet at the same time.

[bobby1]

I read the other thread first but again the sense of entitlement shines thru here Joe.

[JoeBeevers]

I read the other thread first but again the sense of entitlement shines thru here Joe.

I have replied on the other thread:

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=56581.95460

[exstream]

Didn't sign up, how are BE doing this Cheltenham?

[JoeBeevers]

Didn't sign up, how are BE doing this Cheltenham?

I feel like we are treading water a bit. We have had one winning day from three, one winner and many placed horses including 28/1, 25/1 (twice) and 20/1 (twice). Bit frustrating.

Full results will be posted after the festival. Neil is just trying to find another Lord Windermere for tomorrow ;-)

[MattyHollis]

Didn't sign up, how are BE doing this Cheltenham?

I feel like we are treading water a bit. We have had one winning day from three, one winner and many placed horses including 28/1, 25/1 (twice) and 20/1 (twice). Bit frustrating.

Full results will be posted after the festival. Neil is just trying to find another Lord Windermere for tomorrow ;-)

Did he find it?

[pleno1]

Intrigued how this went. Didn't listen to one race/watch anything at all. Would check tips for tikay but seems lot to catch up on. Everybody seemed to say on facebook they had the winners etc but I guess that may happen every year. Did the bookies take a beating? Did you guys clean up?

[JoeBeevers]

Intrigued how this went. Didn't listen to one race/watch anything at all. Would check tips for tikay but seems lot to catch up on. Everybody seemed to say on facebook they had the winners etc but I guess that may happen every year. Did the bookies take a beating? Did you guys clean up?

We had two winners at 15/2 and 10/1 (sp 14/1) and many near misses, places at 40/1, 28/1, 25/1 (twice) and many others. We did lose overall on the week though. Full results will go up on the site early next week when we have had achance to catch up. You can usually tell it's been a losing week for us at Cheltenham if lots of short priced favourites win.

[Larry David]

Intrigued how this went. Didn't listen to one race/watch anything at all. Would check tips for tikay but seems lot to catch up on. Everybody seemed to say on facebook they had the winners etc but I guess that may happen every year. Did the bookies take a beating? Did you guys clean up?

We had two winners at 15/2 and 10/1 (sp 14/1) and many near misses, places at 40/1, 28/1, 25/1 (twice) and many others. We did lose overall on the week though. Full results will go up on the site early next week when we have had achance to catch up. You can usually tell it's been a losing week for us at Cheltenham if lots of short priced favourites win.

If you are picking plenty of big priced horse like the above you will probably have a  good Aintree if the Mullins machine decides to take his army to the Punchestown festival and bypass Aintree.  It was tough going if you weren't a fav backer.

[Horneris]

I was reading this article http://favourite.thesun.co.uk/article/6399994 thinking what garbage it is and massively questioning some of the statements:

Then I put two and two together and realised hes the guy who does darts and tennis for BE!

"Wolves are unbeaten in their last six home games against Leeds.

In fact, the visitors have only won once in their last 15 visits to the Black Country and on their current form they have no chance of ending that poor record."

What the hell does a game 12 years ago have to do with today? And current form? We (Leeds) have won 5 of our last 6 away games and we have only lost 3 games this calendar year.

I do think we'll lose tonight but some of the reasons hes given are bewildering. Out of sorts Leeds defence? Before Saturday we conceded 2 goals in 5 games. I could go on.

How can anyone who can sound so clueless be trusted to make a profit on subscription events? Unless hes told to massively dumb down his articles for the Sun readership? Still doesn't justify his reasoning.

[Kmac84]

I was reading this article http://favourite.thesun.co.uk/article/6399994 thinking what garbage it is and massively questioning some of the statements:

Then I put two and two together and realised hes the guy who does darts and tennis for BE!

"Wolves are unbeaten in their last six home games against Leeds.

In fact, the visitors have only won once in their last 15 visits to the Black Country and on their current form they have no chance of ending that poor record."

What the hell does a game 12 years ago have to do with today? And current form? We (Leeds) have won 5 of our last 6 away games and we have only lost 3 games this calendar year.

I do think we'll lose tonight but some of the reasons hes given are bewildering. Out of sorts Leeds defence? Before Saturday we conceded 2 goals in 5 games. I could go on.

How can anyone who can sound so clueless be trusted to make a profit on subscription events? Unless hes told to massively dumb down his articles for the Sun readership? Still doesn't justify his reasoning.

I don't think there are many people who are actually so good at punting that they can command a fee for providing betting info. 

If I were to pay one chap on blonde it would be Hector or Arb.  I think once you start getting x people involved it dilutes the quality of what your selling. 

I think Bobby may have been somewhat on the money and I wish he posted more but it seems commercialism rules.

[JoeBeevers]

I was reading this article http://favourite.thesun.co.uk/article/6399994 thinking what garbage it is and massively questioning some of the statements:

Then I put two and two together and realised hes the guy who does darts and tennis for BE!

"Wolves are unbeaten in their last six home games against Leeds.

In fact, the visitors have only won once in their last 15 visits to the Black Country and on their current form they have no chance of ending that poor record."

What the hell does a game 12 years ago have to do with today? And current form? We (Leeds) have won 5 of our last 6 away games and we have only lost 3 games this calendar year.

I do think we'll lose tonight but some of the reasons hes given are bewildering. Out of sorts Leeds defence? Before Saturday we conceded 2 goals in 5 games. I could go on.

How can anyone who can sound so clueless be trusted to make a profit on subscription events? Unless hes told to massively dumb down his articles for the Sun readership? Still doesn't justify his reasoning.

Nigel writing for the Sun and writing for Bettingemporium.com are totally different and completely separate. He is catering to two totally different markets. The Sun articles are nothing to do with BE and I choose not to read, follow or discuss them. The sole purpose of what we do at BE is to educate our members and make money. We are very proud of our results and Nigel has done very well for us. We back all the advised bets on our site ourselves and we are very picky about who we have writing for us. We get many emails on a regular basis from various people who want to work with us or write for us. It is important that we consider all our contributors to be long term winners in what they do for us. We consider Nigel a long term winner.

We don't get Nigel to write abour car mechanics, Russian history or cookery so we don't really care too much how well or how badly he does those things for any other organisations. He is free to write for who he likes. What he writes for us we are very choosy about for all the reasons stated already - I'm not backing anyone unless I think I'm getting a decent return from it for me, Neil and all our followers.

[JoeBeevers]

I was reading this article http://favourite.thesun.co.uk/article/6399994 thinking what garbage it is and massively questioning some of the statements:

Then I put two and two together and realised hes the guy who does darts and tennis for BE!

"Wolves are unbeaten in their last six home games against Leeds.

In fact, the visitors have only won once in their last 15 visits to the Black Country and on their current form they have no chance of ending that poor record."

What the hell does a game 12 years ago have to do with today? And current form? We (Leeds) have won 5 of our last 6 away games and we have only lost 3 games this calendar year.

I do think we'll lose tonight but some of the reasons hes given are bewildering. Out of sorts Leeds defence? Before Saturday we conceded 2 goals in 5 games. I could go on.

How can anyone who can sound so clueless be trusted to make a profit on subscription events? Unless hes told to massively dumb down his articles for the Sun readership? Still doesn't justify his reasoning.

I don't think there are many people who are actually so good at punting that they can command a fee for providing betting info. 

If I were to pay one chap on blonde it would be Hector or Arb.  I think once you start getting x people involved it dilutes the quality of what your selling. 

I think Bobby may have been somewhat on the money and I wish he posted more but it seems commercialism rules.

If you are right about one thing it's that making money from sports betting is not something that is easy to do for most people. The percentage of winners is a very small number percentage wise. We have thousands of members who are very happy and making money because of BE. A lot of what we do is free as you well know and some people only take advantage of the free write ups, which is absolutely fine with us. We are proud of our results, everything is published in full and we are fully transparent. Registered users who have followed everything we have done from the start would be winning about £13,000 betting at £10 a point (average bet size around £150).

One thing that I disagree with is that by adding more proven winners it 'dilutes the quality of what we are selling'. We only have people on our site that we are prepared to back with our own cash and who we consider long term winners. If we add another great judge to Bettingemporium that helps us and our members make more money then that adds to, and improves, the quality of what we are selling as far as I am concerned. It certainly improves the bank balance.

For the record we are not stopping anyone posting on Blonde and I don't see why you would object to us running a business, doing work and getting paid for that work.  We have plenty of customers who are happy to pay because they are cleaning up (and because they enjoy reading the analysis we do). We understand that there are others that don't want to pay for whatever reason but they are missing out as far as we are concerned. As I have said we have many thousands of happy members. The snipes and negative comments come from just a few.