Sunday Storm 22 left

[TL900]

I don't shove either hand. I just said I would rather have 9Ts than ATo

[mulhuzz]

I don't shove either hand. I just said I would rather have 9Ts than ATo

i know, but I'm still interested in how wide you think he's opening. I actually think he's calling wider as well, usually.

[TL900]

I don't shove either hand. I just said I would rather have 9Ts than ATo

i know, but I'm still interested in how wide you think he's opening. I actually think he's calling wider as well, usually.

I obviously can't tell you his opening range. I don't think he will be calling much wider than 77 AJs AQo, flick in KQs 66 AJo even ATs and 9Ts still does better than ATo.

The more I think about the more trivial folds I think they both are.

[Pinchop73]

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[Doobs]

Whilst I think he was a bit rude, the top 10% (well 9.8%) according to pokerstove is 88+,A9s+,KTs+,QTs+,AJo+,KQo and the contrived 77+, AJs+, AQo+ range that is close to that which ATo does worst against.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

   2,198,598,336  games     0.001 secs     2,198,598,336,000  games/sec

Board:
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    60.532%     58.31%    02.22%        1282090440     48766860.00   { 88+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 1:    39.468%     37.25%    02.22%         818974176     48766860.00   { ATo }


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

 821,905,920  games     0.000 secs   164,381,184,000  games/sec

Board:
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    65.484%     65.08%    00.41%         534867680      3346404.00   { 88+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 1:    34.516%     34.11%    00.41%         280345432      3346404.00   { T9s }

Guess you can argue all day about the merits of pokerstove ranges, but at least it seems impartial.

I'd put the top 10% as roughly an average rec's calling range.  Just need to work out his raising range now.

[TL900]

who raise/calls QTs for 15bigs here utg vs MP? that r/c range seems crazy.

[Dubai]

Cant imagine anyone snapping A9s, KTs and QTs and folding 77. Which just proves you can usually adjust stoves to make most sides of arguments to appear correct

[Doobs]

who raise/calls QTs for 15bigs here utg vs MP?

The fella with all the chips? 

I agree with Dubai FWIW, but still feel the argument is a bit silly.  ATo is probably better than T9s, but no need form him to be rude about it, as they aren't going to be that far off. 

[Nit Tendencies]

I want to apologise for my previous comment, not because I was wrong, but because of how I came across. I was playing at the same time and just quickly rattled it off without thinking about how arrogant the comment was.

I am surprised at the stove results, but I do agree with the range, I guess this just shows how long it's been since I've done any proper equity work off the table for MTTs (I haven't played MTTs for a living in over 7 months).

I am sorry again mate, I genuinely didn't mean to be such a prick about it.

[TL900]

Its cool, no biggie.

[Dubai]

Yeah i think TL900s range is closer to correct than top 10%, brownie points allround for reply as well Jamie. We all type stuff on here that comes across badly as well

[titaniumbean]

any bear4pricks about ?

[Nit Tendencies]

Gotta own up when i'm in the wrong.

[titaniumbean]

Gotta own up when i'm in the wrong.

you must be used to it now brah xx

[Nit Tendencies]

Gotta own up when i'm in the wrong.

you must be used to it now brah xx

Eat my fuck Beaneh you ass.