Racing Thread

[Marky147]

Talked me into a little f/c there too bud. TYVM.

LOL, fuck off mate

[BigAdz]

Spirit Of The Law (13) 
Queensberry Rules (6) 
Forecast Singles,  2  bets * £2.50     
23/08/2014 16:46:31   

Cheers

[Marky147]

I was telling you to fuck off, for aftertiming... Not suggesting you hadn't somehow done the forecast 

Nice one!

[BigAdz]

LOL, Either way, it was a pleasure.

Look forward to our next chat. x

[Marky147]

LOL, Either way, it was a pleasure.

Look forward to our next chat. x

Broken clock is only right twice a day mate, going on the last few weeks, you're best steering clear of me for a while

Had Karaka Jack in that trixie, and was going to back it as a single once it went down. Brother leaves his mate in the office while he gets ready, and I miss the race...

Ah well, roll on the St Leger meeting for another 3 day fix!

[Marky147]

Arrowzone running tomorrow in the 1525 at Beverley, and the old bridesmaid General Tufto is in action in the last at Yarmouth, too.

[Omm]

Couple more for ya

Get the 5/2 Annippe 4.20 Curragh

Bow creek ew Good 3.30

Freerolling the biggies now.

Jubbbbbbbly.

Boomio

Well done mate, for some reason I done the first and completey missed the second, first world problems hey!!

[BigAdz]

LOL, Either way, it was a pleasure.

Look forward to our next chat. x

Broken clock is only right twice a day mate, going on the last few weeks, you're best steering clear of me for a while

Had Karaka Jack in that trixie, and was going to back it as a single once it went down. Brother leaves his mate in the office while he gets ready, and I miss the race...

Ah well, roll on the St Leger meeting for another 3 day fix!

Bugger. Didn't i put this up last time, and totally missed it. Teach me to go out. UL bud

[Marky147]

I've had it in my tracker since last year, but it could well have been.

[simonnatur]

All of these are win bets at minimal stakes, couldn't find anything that interested me much...

Eastern Racer 8/1  Beverley 16:00 well drawn, ran a good race at Chester from a poor draw. willing to forgive poor run in better race last time at the prices
Indaria 4/1  Beverley 16:00  Obv speed/draw/form claims    ( done these two as a rev f/c )

Tioga Pass 12/1  Goodwood 16:45  Gone up the weights after impressive win in May, looked a bit awkward at times, not impossible a short layoff and blinkers will revitalise

Madeed 3/1  Goodwood 15:05  A few threats, but decent course form and looked the most likely winner to me

[TightEnd]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/leisure/11052183/Is-horse-racing-entering-the-final-furlong.html

[arbboy]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/leisure/11052183/Is-horse-racing-entering-the-final-furlong.html

Too many poor quality meetings with small fields and punter friendly %'s with plenty of non triers in them.  These races were desigined to increase the product for betting shops but it's actually had the opposite effect.  Casual punters are turned off by the constant stream of low grade racing.  The owners/trainers pretty much have to land touches to fund the game becuase the prize money is so poor which in turn massively reduces the margin bookmakers make out of the vast majority of racing.  If you add in the price war on odds checker most days of firms trying to go top price every runner/money back offers/5 places in races etc etc it's pretty obvious to anyone with a business brain on why racing margin's are falling like a stone with bookmakers and they are no longer that bothered about the product outside of the big festivals.

The other thing to remember about off course betting turnover and it's slump in the last 5 years per the article is how much 'arbing' volume that used to contain every day in 2009 which firms are eventually stopped taking towards the end of the 5 year period.  I was probably turning over with off course firms (amongst numerous other full time arbers then who don't arb horses or bet horses at all now in 2014) purely arbing in excess of £50k a day (£15-£20m a year) turnover at zero risk (it sounds a lot but it isn't when you are investing every race on a race by race basis and there are 40/50 races a day in the summer months.  Some of the bigger arbers with teams of people putting on around the shops must have been turning over ten times that.  It's also a reason why betfair's liquidity for horse races has fallen/not grown over the years because a big % of liquidity in those days came from arbers via the firms.

On course layer Geoff Banks writes a great blog on such issues and really gets it.


http://geoffbanksracing.wordpress.com/2014/06/28/a-blueprint-for-racing/

[redarmi]

The bookmakers complaining about the state of UK racing is laughable.  They act as though it has nothing to do with them.  Without betting racing would, at best be a niche sport and if the books put even a fraction of the energy that they put into innovation in other products into their racing product then perhaps it would have a future but the fact is that they treat racing like the red headed step child that ideally they would like to go away.  Do they really think trivialising racing by introducing virtual racing in their shops and promoting it as though it was as good as the real thing is good for the product?  Do they think relocating a big part of their businesses to the UK to screw down the levy was good for racing?  Do they think refusing even trivial bets is good for the future of the sport?  They want the benefits of the sport but they don't want to share the workload and the cost.   Ideally they would like to see it run like Bags dog racing w ie run entirely for their benefit with guaranteed margins etc at empty stadiums.

[bobby1]

If I had one wish it would be to back one winner less than Adz every week for a year. No wonder the guy is buying property.

[BigAdz]

If I had one wish it would be to back one winner less than Adz every week for a year. No wonder the guy is buying property.

Haha.

My apols all. Told phil 5 horses last nite and forgot to post as had more mother outlaw birthday celebrations so been busy all day, after a few too many last nite. Needless to say three won at 9-1, 8-1, 7-1, advised prices.

Not meant to aftertime, just explain his comment.