Woolwich shooting

[millidonk]

twitter trending and sky news reporting another incident yards from the floral tributes.

http://news.sky.com/story/1095844/sky-sources-man-stabbed-in-woolwich

Jeez, so ridic.

[outragous76]

Isn't that the point though?  They won't become more frequent because it is something that a tiny minority do.

Well lets hope that, but you never know, there wouldn't be so many people working on this issue if they weren't worried.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22671619

Creating fear through media much?

 I wish people would wake up to this! I bought a news paper for the first time in years today and just laughed at what people are asked to take in and the words and phrasing used!

[Royal Flush]

twitter trending and sky news reporting another incident yards from the floral tributes.

http://news.sky.com/story/1095844/sky-sources-man-stabbed-in-woolwich

Jeez, so ridic.

It's Woolwich, not that ridic

[celtic]

twitter trending and sky news reporting another incident yards from the floral tributes.

http://news.sky.com/story/1095844/sky-sources-man-stabbed-in-woolwich

Jeez, so ridic.

It's Woolwich, not that ridic

Probably wouldn't have made the news any other week of the year.

[doubleup]

Has there ever been a more disgusting and incompetent politician than Theresa May to hold the office of Home Secretary? 

Instead of taking responsibility for the security forces inaction over an individual who was known to them she decides to bleat about recording everything on the internet again (at a cost of 100s of millions), despite this being irrelevant to this incident and her having already been told by parliament to stuff the idea up her arse.

[TightEnd]

Not referring to Mrs May specifically, but the bill you refer to is wanted by the security services, wanted by the Home Secretary (and past Labour Home secs such as Alan Johnson) but the coalition partner refuses to countenance it

[doubleup]

Just because the security services apparently want something, doesn't mean it is cost effective or that it doesn't impinge on our freedom.

The main point is that it is completely irrelevant to the incident.  The security forces knew all about this radical and didn't stop them.

[kinboshi]

Not referring to Mrs May specifically, but the bill you refer to is wanted by the security services, wanted by the Home Secretary (and past Labour Home secs such as Alan Johnson) but the coalition partner refuses to countenance it

At last, the Lib Dems actually do something right as part of the coalition.

[MANTIS01]

It's quite unfair to single out Theresa May in what is a vast wasteland of political ineptitude. Worryingly I can't think of a single politician who inspires me. Although I do think Boris Johnson is amusing.

[titaniumbean]

It's quite unfair to single out Theresa May in what is a vast wasteland of political ineptitude. Worryingly I can't think of a single politician who inspires me. Although I do think Boris Johnson is amusing.

+1


they're all inept twats.


what is decision making lolz.

[Acidmouse]

well someone cut the intelligence budget from £60m to £33m that deals with this type of thing...i guess they do put a price on lives

[Woodsey]

well someone cut the intelligence budget from £60m to £33m that deals with this type of thing...i guess they do put a price on lives

Yes that is the only possible reason 

[Royal Flush]

well someone cut the intelligence budget from £60m to £33m that deals with this type of thing...i guess they do put a price on lives

Obviously there is a price on life if you are a government

[Woodsey]

well someone cut the intelligence budget from £60m to £33m that deals with this type of thing...i guess they do put a price on lives

Obviously there is a price on life if you are a government

Or the government is skint and has to make cuts, its one or the other......

[wazz]

well someone cut the intelligence budget from £60m to £33m that deals with this type of thing...i guess they do put a price on lives

It's obviously distasteful but when you get to a larger scale there is and always has been a price on lives. There's no other way to go about it. Not putting literally every penny everyone earns in this country back into healthcare is also putting a price on lives.

There's also the argument (which I subscribe to) that I don't really want my tax money spent on surveillance. What always happens around these things is that the hawks use it to justify a) massively increased expenditure on defence and b) reduced personal freedom for everyday citizens, under the auspices of trying to stop something that could have best been avoided in the first place by not going to war and riling up half the muslim population of the country who don't need much of a touchpaper in the first place.

When we first went to war I was very for it. I thought we were doing it for the wrong reasons but that the outcome was likely to be a good one and that the ends justified the means. In my adult life I've switched wings in a big way. Blair cosied up to Bush and we sent people over when we shouldn't have done; so what are we getting in return (other than dodgy extradition treaties) is a reduction in our need to spend ridiculous amounts of money, where little is available, on new fighter planes, submarines, trident missiles, etc etc.

My two pence.