Is this bad etiquette?

[Nit Tendencies]

You're beyond help, so I'm not going to waste my time trying.

[SuuPRlim]

That said if people want to offer general chastisement of hugely popular figures why stop at this thread? As far as I can see Alex sold shares for Vegas in May and having flown over he was still waiting payment of 4 figs from some quarters. Having attempted to communicate with those fellas he was ignored. This meant he had to scramble to re-sell pieces in a saturated market. Now I don't know if that's how you and Dave do business Stu, and I don't know cos both of you ain't said anything about it. I think if you guys want to "help" with poker stuff then choosing minor issues like this to comment on isn't really going to set the world alight. Maybe you should both try getting a bit carried away with yourselves and get your teeth stuck into more telling matters?

lol Mantis. I did comment on Alex's thread, was kinda tongue in cheek comment but pretty sure it made my opinion on the correct way to handle that situation pretty obvious.

I'm sure you think all I do is sit at home clicking buttons running equities and talking geeky poker with my geeky mates and therefore have all this time to busy-body around on blonde I thought my initial post which started the discussion was in context of the thread, maybe it wasn't, in which case my bad but none of it was a personal attack on Aaron even though i'm sure you think it was.

[MANTIS01]

lol SuuPRlim. I think you're one of the best posters on the forum and haven't read a single post of yours which I've considered malicious or a personal attack on anyone, so think again about the things you're sure of.

[SuuPRlim]

lol SuuPRlim. I think you're one of the best posters on the forum and haven't read a single post of yours which I've considered malicious or a personal attack on anyone, so think again about the things you're sure of.

alrite, my bad x

[tikay]

lol SuuPRlim. I think you're one of the best posters on the forum and haven't read a single post of yours which I've considered malicious or a personal attack on anyone, so think again about the things you're sure of.

alrite, my bad x

Can I have a kiss or two, too? Well jealous now.

xx

[theprawnidentity]

[aaron1867]

I only make these threads so that pleno comes in the rail

[tikay]

I only make these threads so that Padpick Loapard (Plinop) comes in the rail

FYP

[NEWY]

LOL. WTF? How on earth can his actions be bad etiquette? Maybe a little douschey and maybe a little pre school poker but never bad etiquette. I want people to puff their cheeks and shake their head as if the Ace landing was the worst card in the world just before they move all in. Its a game of deception and if he wants to try and decieve (long as not cheating) then go for it but most likely he will end up costing himself because most will see straight through such nonsense.

If people who go to vegas and leave early are put off playing by these clever little moves (REALLY???) then i suggest poker is not the game for them. Also when they realised they were being tricked why didnt they just switch reverse that shit and take advantage?

As for these little tricks/ strokes/ moves harming the long term game.....LOL.... how long have people done this for and how long do we have to wait for the harm to be done to take effect.  Numbers dont seem too affected by it so far and correct me if I am wrong but aaron didnt invent these moves.

As for aaron being rude/un pleasant at the tables thats totally different because its not related to winning at poker. I dont know him but if it were me I would perhaps consider what people are saying and maybe try and see if there anything I could do diffferent.  It not terribly important to me to be liked at the table or in real life but I am a firm believer in "Its nice to be nice" and "manners cost nothing" I would not want to be disliked. For the most part I think aaron is harmless and at 1st was guilty of trollin without realising. Now (espescially with alex) I think he plays up to his role rather well. He defo writes without engaging brain 1st but also knows what he writes will fuel some debate.

Alex being accused of bein classless for re sellin % of package due to non payment doesnt even deserve a dignified response. Another case of aaron playing his role of alexs personal troll I feel. Alex should be flattered. Wish I was important enough to have a troll.

Lastly can I ask Aaron where are you from or where u were schooled? From the way u write I always imagine writing from a tower in a castle in translyvannia wearin a comedy dracula outfit.

[Karabiner]

How can things be a little douchey but not bad etiquette?

Oxymorons ITT.

[NEWY]

How can things be a little douchey but not bad etiquette?

Oxymorons ITT.

Douchey = Idiotic / stupid

Bad etiquette = Not nice / rude

EasilyconfusedTrying2Bsmart ITT

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douchey
Pronunciation: /ˈduːʃi/
(also douchy)
Definition of douchey
adjective (douchier, douchiest)
informal, chiefly North American

    (typically of a man or his behaviour) obnoxious or contemptible:

[TightEnd]

How can things be a little douchey but not bad etiquette?

Oxymorons ITT.

Douchey = Idiotic / stupid

Bad etiquette = Not nice / rude

EasilyconfusedTrying2Bsmart ITT

Its a bit pedantic of me, but I think most people will think they are one and the same

[redarmi]

People need to be called out in public for this sort of thing in my opinion. If I seller did something equivalent he would get buried, why should buyers not get called out?

I have really tried not to comment on this as I didn't want to derail your staking thread but as you have brought it up here I think you behaved pretty appallingly in the way that you went about that whole thing.  Firstly, there were six days until you play the event.  Neither party has knocked/grimmed you they just haven't paid you yet and whilst you have every right to ask for payment two weeks in advance or whatever it was all parties are in Vegas and presumably fairly easy to track down.  The classy way to deal with it if you were genuinely worried about it would have been to go and find them and have a quiet word with them in person and tell them that you really want the money in advance (I am still not sure why you need it two weeks in advance tbh and giving someone thousands to sit in their pocket in Vegas doesn't seem a great idea to me and that is no reflection on you just a general point).  If they are then unable or unwilling to pay then just tell them you will open up the thread again.  To call them out in a public forum at this point in the process is unfair imo especially in a business that requires a bit of leeway on these things.  

I will give you an example.  I asked to buy a piece of a couple of players for the ISPT and then came to the UK for a couple of weeks and forgot my bank code thing so I couldn't ship.  I contacted them both and both agreed to let my piece stand and for me to just ship it to them after the event.  They didn't have to but I have had numerous transactions with both so presumably they figured that I was good for it which was nice but if they had just said okay I will sell it to someone else which happened in another spot that week that would have been fine too.  I would, however, have been extremely pissed off if they had wrote that I had welshed on my agreement or was unable to pay them or words to that effect especially if that led to Dubai coming on and saying how I owed him a monkey and haven't got around to paying him etc etc because your reputation if pretty much all you have in this game and it would really take a lot for me to put someone elses reputation in danger.  Of course it may be that there are issues with one or both parties but it is still a few days before the event and I just feel as though it could have been handled with so much more class.

[NEWY]

How can things be a little douchey but not bad etiquette?

Oxymorons ITT.

Douchey = Idiotic / stupid

Bad etiquette = Not nice / rude

EasilyconfusedTrying2Bsmart ITT

Its a bit pedantic of me, but I think most people will think they are one and the same

Yes it is pedantic and why would you assume on behalf of others that they also think they are one and the same when they are not. People being douchey could be acting a clown in a nice way, even in an entertaining way or certainly in a way that is not offending, some of the most fun people I know are douches and not rude or offending in the slightest, but I do appreciate you taking the time to try and point out that I might not be as clever as urself.