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« Reply #165 on: January 16, 2014, 09:32:29 PM »

First hand seems ok.

2nd hand i'm never folding, we're basically never crushed, decent % of the time we're 70%, also sometimes flipping obv. Probably isnt terrible folding here, but calling has to be standard. Its a live DTD comp, people just lose their minds.

Final hand is a clear fold pre. Flop cant be that bad i guess... but you shouldn't ever be seeing one.

Any argument for the fact that the "live DTD comp" happened to be a GPS? or would you say it's standardized?

No. People have no way of thinking logically unless they have a mouse in their hand. And everyone - EVERYONE - on the internet is brilliant at poker, only making rational and +EV decisions, only losing money to small sample size variance.

Truth is somewhere in the middle, as ever: the fact it's a live comp might mean some less experienced people are playing, but DTD standard is generally far better than an average casino. Include every bit of information you can gather about your opponent in your decision-making process, but don't generalise any more than you have to. That way reentry queue ranting lies...
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« Reply #166 on: January 16, 2014, 09:34:00 PM »

First hand seems ok.

2nd hand i'm never folding, we're basically never crushed, decent % of the time we're 70%, also sometimes flipping obv. Probably isnt terrible folding here, but calling has to be standard. Its a live DTD comp, people just lose their minds.

Final hand is a clear fold pre. Flop cant be that bad i guess... but you shouldn't ever be seeing one.

Any argument for the fact that the "live DTD comp" happened to be a GPS? or would you say it's standardized?

Similar playerpool to that of the deepstacks etc. The argument for folding is basically the same as that for folding (the general playerpool in these comps is fairly 'soft'). You'd only fold here because you don't feel like you're miles ahead of the guys range (you have to be reasonably ahead) and you feel like you're better off taking lower variance routes to accumulating chips. The reason for calling is that people (who frequent deepstacks and the like) do just show up with absurd hands in these spots and plenty of stuff we dominate.

Don't forget though that if you consider yourself to have a reasonable edge in these fields, the more +EV spots you pass up on, the less of an edge you will have in a comp. That's not to say take every tiny little +cEV spot, but I feel like this spot is too +cEV to fold.
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« Reply #167 on: January 16, 2014, 09:35:26 PM »

Fair points guys, deffo taking them on board, thanks Smiley
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« Reply #168 on: January 16, 2014, 09:47:09 PM »

1st hand I prefer check calling riv. Not many worse hands call in this spot, think there are more hands that have us beat than those we are able to value bet and get a call out of them with.

2nd hand I'm pretty sure I don't fold.

3rd hand, agree with the rest of the consensus don't think it's the time or place to flat pre, or get it in on the flop. There are more hands to flat with pre if he's not great post flop, but you've said you think he's opening a pretty tight range. Was it HU on the flop yeah?
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« Reply #169 on: January 16, 2014, 09:52:36 PM »

1st hand I prefer check calling riv. Not many worse hands call in this spot, think there are more hands that have us beat than those we are able to value bet and get a call out of them with.

2nd hand I'm pretty sure I don't fold.

3rd hand, agree with the rest of the consensus don't think it's the time or place to flat pre, or get it in on the flop. There are more hands to flat with pre if he's not great post flop, but you've said you think he's opening a pretty tight range. Was it HU on the flop yeah?

Yeah HU on the flop, I never make this move with anyone else or against anyone else either.
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« Reply #170 on: January 16, 2014, 10:13:28 PM »

1st hand I prefer check calling riv. Not many worse hands call in this spot, think there are more hands that have us beat than those we are able to value bet and get a call out of them with.


Think this really depends on who the opponent is. Vs anyone good c/calling will always be better than c/raising, as he shouldn't really call off with anything worse. e.g vs Mr.Gill i'd fist-pump raise Smiley 
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« Reply #171 on: January 16, 2014, 10:25:20 PM »

1st hand I prefer check calling riv. Not many worse hands call in this spot, think there are more hands that have us beat than those we are able to value bet and get a call out of them with.


Think this really depends on who the opponent is. Vs anyone good c/calling will always be better than c/raising, as he shouldn't really call off with anything worse. e.g vs Mr.Gill i'd fist-pump raise Smiley 

You'd probably be right to. Cant fold Ax vs Tom High on an A high board can we!
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« Reply #172 on: January 17, 2014, 12:56:02 AM »

Like to chat us through the ace high call at DTD last night Mr High? Wink
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« Reply #173 on: January 17, 2014, 02:41:14 AM »

what the button limps after 3 other people limp and were a tight guy in the blinds and we fold when he goes all in. it doesnt matter thathe has 90k we have 25k, it seems the most trivial call ever?$?$?$?$
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« Reply #174 on: January 19, 2014, 02:44:33 AM »

what the button limps after 3 other people limp and were a tight guy in the blinds and we fold when he goes all in. it doesnt matter thathe has 90k we have 25k, it seems the most trivial call ever?$?$?$?$

I stand by the logic at the time, but if it's something glaring that i need to change then i will...past can be crap if the future is adapted to improve
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« Reply #175 on: January 19, 2014, 05:35:13 AM »

I think it's a terrible fold but maybe I'm the worst.

Just for cliffs

You call him reckless
It went limp limp limp he limped
You raised somebody called
He is a huge dominating stack and goes all in
We have ak




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« Reply #176 on: January 19, 2014, 05:34:07 PM »

I think it's a terrible fold but maybe I'm the worst.

Just for cliffs

You call him reckless
It went limp limp limp he limped
You raised somebody called
He is a huge dominating stack and goes all in
We have ak




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I still think there are better spots than that one, i suppose i could call on the reckless point but it stands to reason the limp-ship is rarely ever weak...like im probably the worst but it's not like i insta-folded for no reason, there was at least some method, wrong or otherwise
as i say, i can fix it going forward
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« Reply #177 on: January 19, 2014, 08:17:36 PM »

I think it's a terrible fold but maybe I'm the worst.

Just for cliffs

You call him reckless
It went limp limp limp he limped
You raised somebody called
He is a huge dominating stack and goes all in
We have ak




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I still think there are better spots than that one, i suppose i could call on the reckless point but it stands to reason the limp-ship is rarely ever weak...like im probably the worst but it's not like i insta-folded for no reason, there was at least some method, wrong or otherwise
as i say, i can fix it going forward

Gotta disagree, the limp ship doesn't have to be AA or KK, its normally a limp minraise with these hands. This looks way more like a hand that just doesn't want to see a flop, like some sorta medium/small pair or like AJ/AQ/AK. Either way, I guess I don't mind folding on the basis that if you're good enough you'll be able to find a bunch of spots in these comps to make chips, so when you're pretty deep you can argue against taking a flip on a weak table... I almost certainly happily call in game though, barring some sort of ninja.
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« Reply #178 on: January 20, 2014, 03:31:01 AM »

I think it's a terrible fold but maybe I'm the worst.

Just for cliffs

You call him reckless
It went limp limp limp he limped
You raised somebody called
He is a huge dominating stack and goes all in
We have ak




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I still think there are better spots than that one, i suppose i could call on the reckless point but it stands to reason the limp-ship is rarely ever weak...like im probably the worst but it's not like i insta-folded for no reason, there was at least some method, wrong or otherwise
as i say, i can fix it going forward

Gotta disagree, the limp ship doesn't have to be AA or KK, its normally a limp minraise with these hands. This looks way more like a hand that just doesn't want to see a flop, like some sorta medium/small pair or like AJ/AQ/AK. Either way, I guess I don't mind folding on the basis that if you're good enough you'll be able to find a bunch of spots in these comps to make chips, so when you're pretty deep you can argue against taking a flip on a weak table... I almost certainly happily call in game though, barring some sort of ninja.

Not sitting there thinking its those kind of hands though, but 8's upwards can easily make the move and im still only racing at best...something, as you say, i felt i didnt need to do given the whole tournament and what it offered/could get out of it skill wise.
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« Reply #179 on: January 20, 2014, 03:49:15 AM »

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I'm a stats junkie, and my first event for 2014 put me past an important milestone for me, i'd finally paid out £10,000 in buyins...now that sounds like nothing to basically everyone reading this blog, im aware of that, but for me it was something to be relatively proud of, i'd played in enough events to have put up five figures...and i was in profit across the whole career to date. I'll let you guys be the judge of what these stats mean in real world terms, i wish i had more cashes sure, and i wish i had earned more, but for someone with buyins the size i play for its a start at least.

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Also don't judge me for the percentages of buyin return/ROI, ive no actual idea if they are correct, and to be honest putting this online might actually mean i end up getting the real figure if it is wrong! but everything else comes off an automated and proof read spreadsheet Smiley Yes, i do keep track of EVERY live event i have ever played :-) I also have graphs on various other statistics i like to collect that i might put on here at some stage, who knows :-)
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