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Question: I will be voting for the following in the General election  (Voting closed: May 10, 2015, 02:10:42 PM)
Conservative - 41 (40.6%)
Labour - 20 (19.8%)
Liberal Democrat - 6 (5.9%)
SNP - 9 (8.9%)
UKIP - 3 (3%)
Green - 7 (6.9%)
Other - 3 (3%)
I will not be voting - 12 (11.9%)
Total Voters: 100

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« Reply #600 on: April 16, 2015, 10:50:48 PM »

Yes reading the wiki page is all we need to know. WP

All the key figures are there, it is all you need to know, debt is still going up but end austerity, alright son 
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« Reply #601 on: April 16, 2015, 10:51:04 PM »

Truth is the Tories love this shit. Gives them a reason to be arseholes to all those that need help.

If they really wanna clear debt hike up some taxes- it's all BS. If it was up to them they'd tax millonaires nothing and pay abs nothing to those who need welfare
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« Reply #602 on: April 16, 2015, 10:53:00 PM »

Truth is the Tories love this shit. Gives them a reason to be arseholes to all those that need help.

If they really wanna clear debt hike up some taxes- it's all BS. If it was up to them they'd tax millonaires nothing and pay abs nothing to those who need welfare

Well labour aren't going to end austerity either, in fact will make more cuts also, maybe you should vote green?
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« Reply #603 on: April 16, 2015, 10:53:19 PM »

Yes reading the wiki page is all we need to know. WP

All the key figures are there, it is all you need to know, debt is still going up but end austerity, alright son 

Um you do know wiki pages can be written amended by anyone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Kendall_%28poker_player%29
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« Reply #604 on: April 16, 2015, 10:54:01 PM »

Yes reading the wiki page is all we need to know. WP

All the key figures are there, it is all you need to know, debt is still going up but end austerity, alright son 

Um you do know wiki pages can be written amended by anyone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Kendall_%28poker_player%29

Check it elsewhere if you want, those figures are broadly correct.
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« Reply #605 on: April 16, 2015, 10:55:01 PM »

Truth is the Tories love this shit. Gives them a reason to be arseholes to all those that need help.

If they really wanna clear debt hike up some taxes- it's all BS. If it was up to them they'd tax millonaires nothing and pay abs nothing to those who need welfare

Well labour aren't going to end austerity either, in fact will make more cuts also, maybe you should vote green?

I'm not convinced by anyone at the moment altho my opinon of Ed has gone up as a result of the debates
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« Reply #606 on: April 16, 2015, 10:55:55 PM »

Yes reading the wiki page is all we need to know. WP

All the key figures are there, it is all you need to know, debt is still going up but end austerity, alright son 

Um you do know wiki pages can be written amended by anyone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Kendall_%28poker_player%29

Check it elsewhere if you want, those figures are broadly correct.

I know the score- my point was that the Tory party are bandying on about austerity when in reality they're doing f all about it
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« Reply #607 on: April 16, 2015, 10:57:11 PM »

Yes reading the wiki page is all we need to know. WP

All the key figures are there, it is all you need to know, debt is still going up but end austerity, alright son 

Um you do know wiki pages can be written amended by anyone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Kendall_%28poker_player%29

Check it elsewhere if you want, those figures are broadly correct.

I know the score- my point was that the Tory party are bandying on about austerity when in reality they're doing f all about it

Nothing? They have made cuts already and will make more, the economy is improving under them so more tax raised, that's hardly nothing...
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« Reply #608 on: April 16, 2015, 10:58:26 PM »

Truth is the Tories love this shit. Gives them a reason to be arseholes to all those that need help.

If they really wanna clear debt hike up some taxes- it's all BS. If it was up to them they'd tax millonaires nothing and pay abs nothing to those who need welfare

Hard to take your arguments even remotely serious if you even vaguely believe this.

Are you an ex miner or even Arthur himself?
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« Reply #609 on: April 16, 2015, 10:59:09 PM »

It's an ideological battle, ultimately. As I understand it, amongst Economists, it's a contentious battle.

A) Austerity to reduce the deficit.
B) Spend, spend and spend - encourage economic growth.

It's impossible to say if one is more efficient than the other, but ideologically I prefer what I perceive to be the more pragmatic option. That being don't spend what you don't have.
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« Reply #610 on: April 16, 2015, 10:59:41 PM »

Miliband wins the Post debate poll. 35 per cent-31 per cent sturgeon
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« Reply #611 on: April 16, 2015, 11:02:57 PM »

So far from Ed, the only weapon he's going to use to cut the deficit is to have a mansion tax ?

Liked the fact we heard a left wing alternative and think, especially early in the debate, the various small parties made a pretty good job of showing Labour as Tory lite.

Surprised anyone actually thinks Milliband did well though..it's like if he doesn't come across as a complete dickwad he's doing well. Plus he says yurrs, rather than years, gtfo
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« Reply #612 on: April 16, 2015, 11:04:33 PM »

In reality they're all pretty poor. None of them inspire me to vote for them or assure me they can effectively lead. Sad times really
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« Reply #613 on: April 16, 2015, 11:06:56 PM »

What we can be certain about is that between Labour and the Conservatives, they're going to hold 50%+ of the seats for an indeterminate period of time. I want to say the entirety of my lifetime, but I am not so sure given the way the previous election/current election are heading.

That being said, is there even the smallest chance of a change away from FPTP to a proportion based electoral system or would the big two just veto it constantly?

Who loses out more, the Conservatives, correct?
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« Reply #614 on: April 16, 2015, 11:07:17 PM »

It's an ideological battle, ultimately. As I understand it, amongst Economists, it's a contentious battle.

A) Austerity to reduce the deficit.
B) Spend, spend and spend - encourage economic growth.

It's impossible to say if one is more efficient than the other, but ideologically I prefer what I perceive to be the more pragmatic option. That being don't spend what you don't have.

Yep, Labour, Tory and UKIP are A
The rest occupy different parts of the spectrum of B

Another few elections like this and we'll end up with a Lib-Con centre right coalition
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