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« Reply #45 on: April 01, 2015, 01:36:19 PM »

Got to be enough of a chance that the SB has got 89TJ or similar that this is a fold?

He must be savvy enough to realise the BB has very likely got AAxx to not be shoving his money in with kings hasn't he?

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« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2015, 02:44:10 PM »



I call. Think this has to be fine?



I would fold this, even tho you're deep, you almost def won't dominate anything when you hit on the flop.  And you can be dominated.

You're prob ok equity wise with the allin but do you need the variance?

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« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2015, 04:40:58 PM »

how deep are these two? Thats pretty relevant - if they are like £5k+ then you get way better price as chances of AA vs AA goes up significantly - if they are playing £2/3k then by the sounds of the types of players they might be gambling a bit, which is not great for you as you get dominated and blocked way more often.

Is the HS player Phil Ward by any chance?
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« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2015, 04:43:26 PM »

pretty rare people 5 or 6bet or w/e all-in without AA in live games in all honesty.
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« Reply #49 on: April 01, 2015, 05:08:48 PM »

I'm putting the money in and fairly happy about it but it's obv high variance.

That's PLO tho <3
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« Reply #50 on: April 01, 2015, 07:11:14 PM »

its clear they have AA yes but how are they really 6b potting all aces? There must me imo, more better AA in their range meaning our 89 part of the hand is very rarely going to be flopping both of them, even anyone dead anytime soon lol so I feel like going 3 way vs typical hands after this action with a more 7342ds or A652ds cus well degen gonna degen I guess.
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« Reply #51 on: April 01, 2015, 07:47:09 PM »

A652 ds defo not what you want in this spot
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« Reply #52 on: April 01, 2015, 08:50:01 PM »

High variance init! We can still catch some flops lol

  35.37%.                                              43.67%
  29.12%.                                              23.76%
  Two Clubs 35.49%       35.56%
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« Reply #53 on: April 01, 2015, 08:55:51 PM »

We don't want an Ace because then we can't be facing AAxx and AAyy.

And we'd quite like that to happen.
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« Reply #54 on: April 01, 2015, 09:00:33 PM »

What's the odds on that?
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« Reply #55 on: April 01, 2015, 10:30:10 PM »

High variance init! We can still catch some flops lol

  35.37%.                                              43.67%
  29.12%.                                              23.76%
  Two Clubs 35.49%       35.56%

It is handy there is only one double suited hand there, the hearts are good for the flush and the others all cannibalise each others outs.  Change ATQT to A2QA and QJT9 to 9876ds then you'll get a different picture of how well A256 plays. 
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« Reply #56 on: April 01, 2015, 10:42:47 PM »

if your putting a player on aces, you definitely do not want to contain an ace in your hand. You want all your cards in your hand to be live.
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« Reply #57 on: April 01, 2015, 11:01:44 PM »

What's the odds on that?

It is going to be pretty hard to compute, but where you two oppos get a gazillion BBs in pre and you are sat there with 9876 you are going to see AA vs AA way more often than some spurious calculation is going to show. 

I really wouldn't be surprised if it was as high as 50/50.  I don't play omaha much, but in plo8 and this happens early on between two regs you know what is coming.   

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« Reply #58 on: April 02, 2015, 12:01:29 AM »

how deep are these two? Thats pretty relevant - if they are like £5k+ then you get way better price as chances of AA vs AA goes up significantly - if they are playing £2/3k then by the sounds of the types of players they might be gambling a bit, which is not great for you as you get dominated and blocked way more often.

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Villain 1 in SB playing £1.1k 3bets to £55.

Villain 2 in BB playing £2k 4bets to £185.


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« Reply #59 on: April 02, 2015, 02:06:26 AM »

3way Equity:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
658,008 trials (Exhaustive)
9s8s7c6d 29.50%
asackcqd 38.49%
khqsjhts 32.01%

side pot equity:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
1,086,008 trials (Exhaustive)
9s8s7c6d 40.35%
asackcqd 59.65%


Total pot = £5100
Main pot = £3300
Side pot = £1800

0.295*(3300) + 0.4035*(1800) = £1699.8

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