The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[The Camel]

This is pretty good.

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/colette-browne/from-project-fear-to-project-reality-the-brexiteers-lies-are-exposed-34838910.html

[TightEnd]

there are now two polls up on this board

1. will we leave?

2 would you change your vote?

all votes welcome....

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George Eaton ‏@georgeeaton

Pressure growing on Tom Watson, from all wings of Labour, to be the challenger to Corbyn.

[The Camel]

So Rupert Murdoch won the vote for Leave.

What was his motivation?

Surely with all his business interests it staying (with less regulation maybe) suits him better?

[david3103]

he doesn't give a fuck, got some front (and speaks for a lot of people, too)

Love the guy to Farage's right doing a face palm when he says "this is going to hurt you more than it hurts us"

[The Camel]

he doesn't give a fuck, got some front (and speaks for a lot of people, too)

LOL "Ladies and gentlemen, you are acting like UKIP usually act"

[TightEnd]

from the "you couldn't make it up" column


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Boris Telegraph y'day column was "written too quickly" and he's tired. Friends agree sloppy & sent mixed messages & will be vetted in future

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I'm told Boris Johnson has made clear to Tory right he WILL end EU free movement after Telegraph column y'day angered ppl.

[RickBFA]

If we don't leave, I honestly think we could see civil unrest and the end of our political system as we know it.

The distaste and distrust that large sections of disaffected parts of our society would have with the political class would be magnified significantly. Particularly large area's in deprived cities in the north of England.

If those sections of society think politicians are saying "fuck you" UK voters, I dread to think how they will react.

I'm almost certain we won't leave.

And I'm equally certain there will be there will be blood on streets as Rick describes when it is realised nationally we aren't leaving.

The thing is Camel, this goes to the heart of how our country runs and our democracy.

Leaving the EU may well be a disaster but surely our democracy and one person one vote - and maintaining its integrity with the public - is 10 times more important to protect.

This is a dangerous development and one which threatens the whole basis of our democracy and stability (how ever flawed it is).

If the vote is not followed through, I fear for our future more than if we leave the EU.

I think I agree with that.

So ridiculous that Cameron offered the referendum in the first place.

This is an exchange between me and Camel on the vote thread.

Am I over reacting?

[The Camel]

If we don't leave, I honestly think we could see civil unrest and the end of our political system as we know it.

The distaste and distrust that large sections of disaffected parts of our society would have with the political class would be magnified significantly. Particularly large area's in deprived cities in the north of England.

If those sections of society think politicians are saying "fuck you" UK voters, I dread to think how they will react.

I'm almost certain we won't leave.

And I'm equally certain there will be there will be blood on streets as Rick describes when it is realised nationally we aren't leaving.

The thing is Camel, this goes to the heart of how our country runs and our democracy.

Leaving the EU may well be a disaster but surely our democracy and one person one vote - and maintaining its integrity with the public - is 10 times more important to protect.

This is a dangerous development and one which threatens the whole basis of our democracy and stability (how ever flawed it is).

If the vote is not followed through, I fear for our future more than if we leave the EU.

I think I agree with that.

So ridiculous that Cameron offered the referendum in the first place.

This is an exchange between me and Camel on the vote thread.

Am I over reacting?

I'm off for a cold shower and a stiff drink

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Labour source: "Dave Anderson wasn't asked about being Shadow Northern Ireland before it was announced."


:-)

[DaveShoelace]

[TightEnd]

Next Tory Leader Odds: Theresa May on the rise in head-to-head with Boris. http://btfr.co/ToryLeader

[TightEnd]

guiodo is doing a spreadsheet of who is backing who in the tory contest

populating as he goes

explanation http://order-order.com/2016/06/28/tracking-toryleadership-campaign-2016/

spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19mKbV0UnIbX_lbiinKiquP0ghiFpsMl0owUO6_TJyzI/htmlview?sle=true#gid=0

[Doobs]

Next Tory Leader Odds: Theresa May on the rise in head-to-head with Boris. http://btfr.co/ToryLeader

Amazing crushing the political betting right now.