The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[arbboy]

Kenneth Clarke, former Home Sec, Chancellor etc, “only a lunatic would invest in Britain at the moment” Sky News

Ken Clarke would say anything to make remains case and has already been slapped down by a remain prime minister for his undemocratic and unhelpful views. People like Clarke are more dangerous to this country right now then the bnp/ edl etc. People want to believe in democracy atm but they don't believe in the above two Groups. The only thing that can push ppl towards groups that said I told you so are a lack of democracy and the crazed remain supporters desperate to show up and degrade the people who voted leave. Mainstream parties are all showing leave supporters they don't wish to represent their views, where do they expect them to go? Inviting fascists in.

Seems like you'll say anything to defend leave so same boat

absolutely this - a straightforward comment on the coming capital flight is an attack on democracy?  

Just remember John Charver people like you who enthusiastically backed brexit are 100% deserving of any flaming and criticism that comes your way when the consequences become apparent.    

Do you all buy us a drink in 20 years when we are all substantially better off and have a much higher quality of life in an independent UK?  Or does it only work short term and against us with no upside?

[nirvana]

Kenneth Clarke, former Home Sec, Chancellor etc, “only a lunatic would invest in Britain at the moment” Sky News

Ken Clarke would say anything to make remains case and has already been slapped down by a remain prime minister for his undemocratic and unhelpful views. People like Clarke are more dangerous to this country right now then the bnp/ edl etc. People want to believe in democracy atm but they don't believe in the above two Groups. The only thing that can push ppl towards groups that said I told you so are a lack of democracy and the crazed remain supporters desperate to show up and degrade the people who voted leave. Mainstream parties are all showing leave supporters they don't wish to represent their views, where do they expect them to go? Inviting fascists in.

Seems like you'll say anything to defend leave so same boat

absolutely this - a straightforward comment on the coming capital flight is an attack on democracy?  

Just remember John Charver people like you who enthusiastically backed brexit are 100% deserving of any flaming and criticism that comes your way when the consequences become apparent.    

Is the leave vote going to inconvenience you directly in a significant way..Other than the obvious blood pressure issues you might face

and you would fall into the same category were it not for the impression you strongly gave that you wanted to vote leave just to f-ck everything up and see what would happen, which is fair enough. 

I was genuinely interested because you have such strong views and that always interests me

[redsimon]

Interesting, the big momentum rally tonight postponed

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Cancelled  because venue too small for numbers now expected?

[doubleup]

Kenneth Clarke, former Home Sec, Chancellor etc, “only a lunatic would invest in Britain at the moment” Sky News

Ken Clarke would say anything to make remains case and has already been slapped down by a remain prime minister for his undemocratic and unhelpful views. People like Clarke are more dangerous to this country right now then the bnp/ edl etc. People want to believe in democracy atm but they don't believe in the above two Groups. The only thing that can push ppl towards groups that said I told you so are a lack of democracy and the crazed remain supporters desperate to show up and degrade the people who voted leave. Mainstream parties are all showing leave supporters they don't wish to represent their views, where do they expect them to go? Inviting fascists in.

Seems like you'll say anything to defend leave so same boat

absolutely this - a straightforward comment on the coming capital flight is an attack on democracy?  

Just remember John Charver people like you who enthusiastically backed brexit are 100% deserving of any flaming and criticism that comes your way when the consequences become apparent.    

Do you all buy us a drink in 20 years when we are all substantially better off and have a much higher quality of life in an independent UK?  Or does it only work short term and against us with no upside?

There are no upsides, unless you count emboldening racist twats all over the country as an upside.

[DungBeetle]

Kenneth Clarke, former Home Sec, Chancellor etc, “only a lunatic would invest in Britain at the moment” Sky News

Ken Clarke would say anything to make remains case and has already been slapped down by a remain prime minister for his undemocratic and unhelpful views. People like Clarke are more dangerous to this country right now then the bnp/ edl etc. People want to believe in democracy atm but they don't believe in the above two Groups. The only thing that can push ppl towards groups that said I told you so are a lack of democracy and the crazed remain supporters desperate to show up and degrade the people who voted leave. Mainstream parties are all showing leave supporters they don't wish to represent their views, where do they expect them to go? Inviting fascists in.

Seems like you'll say anything to defend leave so same boat

absolutely this - a straightforward comment on the coming capital flight is an attack on democracy?  

Just remember John Charver people like you who enthusiastically backed brexit are 100% deserving of any flaming and criticism that comes your way when the consequences become apparent.    

Do you all buy us a drink in 20 years when we are all substantially better off and have a much higher quality of life in an independent UK?  Or does it only work short term and against us with no upside?

There are no upsides, unless you count emboldening racist twats all over the country as an upside.

There are no upsides right now, but who knows whether we'll be better off or not in the long run.  I think we won't be, but we can't say for sure until it has all played out.

[doubleup]

Kenneth Clarke, former Home Sec, Chancellor etc, “only a lunatic would invest in Britain at the moment” Sky News

Ken Clarke would say anything to make remains case and has already been slapped down by a remain prime minister for his undemocratic and unhelpful views. People like Clarke are more dangerous to this country right now then the bnp/ edl etc. People want to believe in democracy atm but they don't believe in the above two Groups. The only thing that can push ppl towards groups that said I told you so are a lack of democracy and the crazed remain supporters desperate to show up and degrade the people who voted leave. Mainstream parties are all showing leave supporters they don't wish to represent their views, where do they expect them to go? Inviting fascists in.

Seems like you'll say anything to defend leave so same boat

absolutely this - a straightforward comment on the coming capital flight is an attack on democracy?  

Just remember John Charver people like you who enthusiastically backed brexit are 100% deserving of any flaming and criticism that comes your way when the consequences become apparent.    

Do you all buy us a drink in 20 years when we are all substantially better off and have a much higher quality of life in an independent UK?  Or does it only work short term and against us with no upside?

There are no upsides, unless you count emboldening racist twats all over the country as an upside.

There are no upsides right now, but who knows whether we'll be better off or not in the long run.  I think we won't be, but we can't say for sure until it has all played out.

It's a poker forum, we should be able to realise that a bad play getting lucky doesn't make it correct.

[TightEnd]

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[TightEnd]

Gove's Wife Raises Johnson Leadership Concerns in email passed to SkyNews

http://news.sky.com/story/1719331/goves-wife-raises-johnson-leadership-concerns

[TightEnd]

Gove's Wife Raises Johnson Leadership Concerns in email passed to SkyNews

http://news.sky.com/story/1719331/goves-wife-raises-johnson-leadership-concerns

accidentally copied in a member of the public.whoops.

[TightEnd]

Union leaders vow to help Corbyn fight Labour coup – ‘the Blairite virus is spreading again’ http://specc.ie/292TUIP

[TightEnd]

FTSE 100 has touched pre-referendum levels, above 6,300 points for first time since last Thurs

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[Woodsey]

FTSE 100 has touched pre-referendum levels, above 6,300 points for first time since last Thurs

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So the sky isn't actually falling in? 

[TightEnd]

take your pick

Laura Kuenssberg ‏@bbclaurak now1 minute ago

Gossip among MPs in last 24 hours is that Corbyn wants a way out but his close team telling him not to give in

Chris Ship ‏@chrisshipitv now1 hour ago

I hear that even Jeremy Corbyn's team are now urging him to quit - but so far without success ...

[TightEnd]

how boris writes his columns, from his biography...

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[Doobs]

FTSE 100 has touched pre-referendum levels, above 6,300 points for first time since last Thurs

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So the sky isn't actually falling in? 

Company has future earnings of $x.  Pound falls by 10%.  Company should be worth 11% more.

Ftse100 companies get more than half their earnings overseas as a whole, so there should be some winners from a sterling collapse. 

People investing in shares should be looking at earnings for many years and not just in the next few months turmoil.   

And finally it looks like the most likely solution is now similar fo what we had before without any say in parliament.   Not sure anybody voted for this mind.