The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[Woodsey]

lol I watched a few of Farages vids on you tube of him speaking at the EU. In hindsight I doubt his rant today was in the least bit unexpected, he's got a fair bit of form 

[BigAdz]

Having just seen Farage's performance in Brussels this morning you have to hand it to him. The fella isn't afraid to get stuck in and tell it how he see's it.

I've thought this for a while and even more so now, if Nigel Farage was the leader of either the Tory or Labour parties and was fighting their ideals and manifesto's both of those parties would be more popular. If you take away the unsavoury past and the racism does the actual way he fights for his party/Brexit endear him to his supporters in a way that the main party leaders don't?

I saw something yesterday that said the increase in value to the Brexit argument from Boris Johnson's involvement was about a 2% swing.

If you listed Farage's involvement in Brexit simply as politician A. Then listed a 22 year fight to get from a vote of under 1,000 in his first by-election to over 17 million voters agreeing with his view for the leave campaign last week isn't that an incredible political achievement from a man/Party with very little actual political clout?

Could he be seen as a big achieving politician that is Leader of a Party that has too many unappealing views to take them much further. If he was available to the Tory's or Labour to fight their principals for a football type transfer fee would he fetch a huge fee or be avoided at all costs?

** Just to make it clear, I didn't vote last week and have only ever voted Tory in any election so have no UKIP/Leave leanings here.

Just like Hitler in the 1930s he has tapped into the basest fears and prejudices of the population at a time of deep recession.

There are a lot of people that have done that  since 1945 tho Keith and the Hitleresque comparison seems way over the top. This is Farage in his pro Europe days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXhLMIDscTI

All round good egg.

[david3103]

who did you vote for in leadership election g2l?

I'm not a member of any party but I'm pragmatic enough not to vote for Corbyn.

Saying that none of the Labour candidates were inspirational. As much as people despise Blair he was a leader and had charisma.

Chuka is the shining star of the party. Shame he withdrew his candidacy

Oh I thought you were for some reason.

My guess is he realised what a shitstorm he would be signing up for with no real hope of winning in 2020 so reserved his run for the future.

Blair was super charismatic, and he was really very very popular. He did win three elections. People forget that.

Blair epitomises all that is wrong with UK politics. He perfected the art of saying what people wante to ft,
From dodgy deals with F1 over cigarette adverts to Iraq.
His post Downing St life just emphasises the falsehoods he used in getting the power and influence he clearly craved.

[TightEnd]

we have all seen a hundred downfall parodies, but the Boris one is really very good

[TightEnd]

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[TightEnd]

Brexit fallout: Six practical ways to help fix this mess

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/28/brexit-fallout-six-practical-ways-to-fix-this-mess?CMP=share_btn_tw

[TightEnd]

Dutch PM Rutte gives delay on Art 50 triggering, because:

"England has collapsed politically, monetarily, constitutionally and economically"

[TightEnd]

David Cameron has revealed why he thinks Britain backed Brexit

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-david-cameron-calls-on-brussels-to-curb-immigration-as-part-of-future-trade-deals-with-uk-a3283396.html

[TightEnd]

Kenneth Clarke, former Home Sec, Chancellor etc, “only a lunatic would invest in Britain at the moment” Sky News

[TightEnd]

i just like the chart, though normal distributions aren't appropriate here apparently...

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[TightEnd]

Someone has uploaded Boris Johnson's post referendum speech onto Pornhub with the following title...

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[TightEnd]

The Reaction to Brexit Is the Reason Brexit Happened | Rolling Stone

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-reaction-to-brexit-is-the-reason-brexit-happened-20160627

[TightEnd]

Mark Urban ‏@MarkUrban01

"There is a mood of revenge right now" senior European politico tells me, "many feel Britain has to be made to suffer for its stupidity"

[TightEnd]

"explaining the brexit spring"

nice spoof graph

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[Woodsey]

David Cameron has revealed why he thinks Britain backed Brexit

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-david-cameron-calls-on-brussels-to-curb-immigration-as-part-of-future-trade-deals-with-uk-a3283396.html

He's right. If the last few governments had actually demonstrated they were doing something they wouldn't be in this mess.