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Breaking - Tom Watson tells me Corbyn has to go but he is unwilling to quit

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Matthew Harris ‏@hattmarris84

BREAK: Liam Fox tells LBC he'll be formerly announcing that he'll be running for leadership of the Conservative party tomorrow

[redsimon]

FTSE 100 has touched pre-referendum levels, above 6,300 points for first time since last Thurs

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Hows the Ftse 250 doing?

[ripple11]

Gove's Wife Raises Johnson Leadership Concerns in email passed to SkyNews

http://news.sky.com/story/1719331/goves-wife-raises-johnson-leadership-concerns

accidentally copied in a member of the public.whoops.

If this email came to you this morning....would you contact the press ?

[PokerBroker]

Depends on your motives?

[PokerBroker]

what impact if any is chilcot likely to have on Labour leadership debate? 

[nirvana]

FTSE 100 has touched pre-referendum levels, above 6,300 points for first time since last Thurs

Click to see full-size image.

Hows the Ftse 250 doing?

Up 3% today - about the level in Jan this year, didn't do the maths but perhaps 7or 8 % down since last Thursday still. Incidentally, from May last year to Jan this it fell from 18000 to 16000 without any help from Brexit. It now stands at around 16000.

Festival time for traders right now but perhaps that's the only thing we know at the moment

[redsimon]

FTSE 100 has touched pre-referendum levels, above 6,300 points for first time since last Thurs

Click to see full-size image.

Hows the Ftse 250 doing?

Up 3% today - about the level in Jan this year, didn't do the maths but perhaps 7or 8 % down since last Thursday still. Incidentally, from May last year to Jan this it fell from 18000 to 16000 without any help from Brexit. It now stands at around 16000.

Festival time for traders right now but perhaps that's the only thing we know at the moment

Not traded anything since Thursday (well since May tbh!) pretty sure there will be more ups and downs over the next few months.

[JohnCharver]

Kenneth Clarke, former Home Sec, Chancellor etc, “only a lunatic would invest in Britain at the moment” Sky News

Ken Clarke would say anything to make remains case and has already been slapped down by a remain prime minister for his undemocratic and unhelpful views. People like Clarke are more dangerous to this country right now then the bnp/ edl etc. People want to believe in democracy atm but they don't believe in the above two Groups. The only thing that can push ppl towards groups that said I told you so are a lack of democracy and the crazed remain supporters desperate to show up and degrade the people who voted leave. Mainstream parties are all showing leave supporters they don't wish to represent their views, where do they expect them to go? Inviting fascists in.

Seems like you'll say anything to defend leave so same boat

absolutely this - a straightforward comment on the coming capital flight is an attack on democracy?  

Just remember John Charver people like you who enthusiastically backed brexit are 100% deserving of any flaming and criticism that comes your way when the consequences become apparent.    

I dont and didnt back brexit, I back the countries democratic right to decide.

People wanting us to leave are asking for their democratic right to be upheld, they voted and won. Remainist who demand we ignore or revote lost, whinged, tried to cheat and look for any way their own way can be undemocratically enforced.

You like poker analogies leave might be poor players but your view is phil hellmuths and howard lederers love child.

[JohnCharver]

what impact if any is chilcot likely to have on Labour leadership debate? 

Wasnt the message labour were desperately seeking someone who didnt vote to go to war or vote against chilcotts report being carried out? Probably ask some of the shadow cabinet

[4KSuited]

Just watched the BBC documentary on Blair/Iraq in view of the imminent Chilcot Enquiry report.

Claire Short's contribution was probably the strongest indictment of Blair's culpability - "he's going to have it on his conscience for the rest of his life".

But will the report pull it's punches? Interesting times indeed.

[4KSuited]

Just watched the BBC documentary on Blair/Iraq in view of the imminent Chilcot Enquiry report.

Claire Short's contribution was probably the strongest indictment of Blair's culpability - "he's going to have it on his conscience for the rest of his life".

But will the report pull its punches? Interesting times indeed.

Fixed my grammatical error 

[George2Loose]

Kenneth Clarke, former Home Sec, Chancellor etc, “only a lunatic would invest in Britain at the moment” Sky News

Ken Clarke would say anything to make remains case and has already been slapped down by a remain prime minister for his undemocratic and unhelpful views. People like Clarke are more dangerous to this country right now then the bnp/ edl etc. People want to believe in democracy atm but they don't believe in the above two Groups. The only thing that can push ppl towards groups that said I told you so are a lack of democracy and the crazed remain supporters desperate to show up and degrade the people who voted leave. Mainstream parties are all showing leave supporters they don't wish to represent their views, where do they expect them to go? Inviting fascists in.

Seems like you'll say anything to defend leave so same boat

absolutely this - a straightforward comment on the coming capital flight is an attack on democracy? 

Just remember John Charver people like you who enthusiastically backed brexit are 100% deserving of any flaming and criticism that comes your way when the consequences become apparent.   

So any voice against leave is undemocratic now? What about the democratic right to freedom of speech?

I dont and didnt back brexit, I back the countries democratic right to decide.

People wanting us to leave are asking for their democratic right to be upheld, they voted and won. Remainist who demand we ignore or revote lost, whinged, tried to cheat and look for any way their own way can be undemocratically enforced.

You like poker analogies leave might be poor players but your view is phil hellmuths and howard lederers love child.

[JohnCharver]

Kenneth Clarke, former Home Sec, Chancellor etc, “only a lunatic would invest in Britain at the moment” Sky News

Ken Clarke would say anything to make remains case and has already been slapped down by a remain prime minister for his undemocratic and unhelpful views. People like Clarke are more dangerous to this country right now then the bnp/ edl etc. People want to believe in democracy atm but they don't believe in the above two Groups. The only thing that can push ppl towards groups that said I told you so are a lack of democracy and the crazed remain supporters desperate to show up and degrade the people who voted leave. Mainstream parties are all showing leave supporters they don't wish to represent their views, where do they expect them to go? Inviting fascists in.

Seems like you'll say anything to defend leave so same boat

absolutely this - a straightforward comment on the coming capital flight is an attack on democracy?  

Just remember John Charver people like you who enthusiastically backed brexit are 100% deserving of any flaming and criticism that comes your way when the consequences become apparent.    

So any voice against leave is undemocratic now? What about the democratic right to freedom of speech?

I dont and didnt back brexit, I back the countries democratic right to decide.

People wanting us to leave are asking for their democratic right to be upheld, they voted and won. Remainist who demand we ignore or revote lost, whinged, tried to cheat and look for any way their own way can be undemocratically enforced.

You like poker analogies leave might be poor players but your view is phil hellmuths and howard lederers love child.

You can't read or quote

I didn't think I needed to qualify my statement against Ken Clarke was for his parliamentary suggestions not his actual statement. His opinion is null as he has already showed his contempt for democracy.

I have no problem with people thinking its a mistake, my problem is with those that would right a mistake by cheating the electorate.

[George2Loose]

Very grown up. Classy guy