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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 55

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« Reply #7770 on: April 18, 2017, 12:37:06 PM »

incredible really, boundary changes in oct 18 deliver a further 20 seats (assuming same vote shares as 2015) for May. she's gone before that.

quite the U turn.
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« Reply #7771 on: April 18, 2017, 12:38:28 PM »


I don't get it.  Surely he humiliates her by just saying no you can't do that.  Why would it happen regardless?  We have an act of parliament where she needs a two thirds majority(?) to overturn.  She hasn't got it.  If everyone is saying it is a good move for her, it is bad for him. 

So just say no.

If he says no, then the Tories submit a motion of no confidence - there is precedence, happened in Germany in 2005. That only has to pass by 1 vote.

Isn't that better for Corbyn than just caving in? 
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« Reply #7772 on: April 18, 2017, 12:39:12 PM »

2017 election = Referendum 2.0 "what type of Brexit?"

great fun this. *checks roaming charges for june in north america **
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« Reply #7773 on: April 18, 2017, 12:49:43 PM »

2017 election = Referendum 2.0 "what type of Brexit?"

great fun this. *checks roaming charges for june in north america **

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« Reply #7774 on: April 18, 2017, 12:51:19 PM »


Isn't that better for Corbyn than just caving in? 

Don't think so, he has to embrace it as Prime Minister in waiting, chance to get rid of the Tories asap, rescue the country etc. etc.
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« Reply #7775 on: April 18, 2017, 12:51:55 PM »

2017 election = Referendum 2.0 "what type of Brexit?"

great fun this. *checks roaming charges for june in north america **

You can still get decent wifi away from the Rio!

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« Reply #7776 on: April 18, 2017, 12:52:56 PM »


Isn't that better for Corbyn than just caving in? 

Don't think so, he has to embrace it as Prime Minister in waiting, chance to get rid of the Tories asap, rescue the country etc. etc.

Seems he has effectively said "ok then boss" already.
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« Reply #7777 on: April 18, 2017, 01:27:29 PM »

Gonna be so interesting to see LD share of vote as it will be a pretty good barometer of how much deep seated pro euro sentiment there is in the country. Anything less than 48% for the LDs would be a disaster for the remains..unless the greens heavily split the pro euros
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« Reply #7778 on: April 18, 2017, 01:30:42 PM »

LD can't hit 48%, there will be plenty of remain voters who are con and lag supporters who won't switch because its not a one issue election

i would expect the LDs to make gains in areas like the south west and i reckon 9 MPs could double,a sort of mean reversion fromthe lows of post coalition
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« Reply #7779 on: April 18, 2017, 01:36:03 PM »

"Suspect danger of Brexit talks going badly was what tipped May's decision"

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/theresa-may-snap-election-jeremy-corbyn-support-labour-election-defeat-bigger-than-1983-a7688771.html

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« Reply #7780 on: April 18, 2017, 01:39:22 PM »


Isn't that better for Corbyn than just caving in? 

Don't think so, he has to embrace it as Prime Minister in waiting, chance to get rid of the Tories asap, rescue the country etc. etc.

Seems he has effectively said "ok then boss" already.

Yep
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« Reply #7781 on: April 18, 2017, 02:10:45 PM »

Im going to give an insight into my limited political mindset  ( rightly or wrongly so dont shoot me down )

I normally vote at elections.

At the last election I didn't vote because  the candidates ( to me ) were all as bad as each other.

I did vote in the Brexit election ( to leave Europe )

I know a lot of people that did the same as me (didn't vote in the election but did in Brexit )

Ever since the out vote won  I have held a deep rooted conspiracy theory that " The people that run this country " will find a way to wriggle out and remain in The EU.

However , at face value it appears that Theresa May is trying her up most to obey the peoples wishes and leave the EU , if true to her word /perceived actions then I actually admire the way she has gone about it !

Bearing in mind I didn't vote in the last general election on June the 8th I will definitely be voting Tory to make sure Brexit happens hence my comment " VWP The Conservatives "

My question is this ...................

like myself  , how many people now feel they have no option than to vote Tory to activate the Brexit vote so we can leave Europe ?

PS ..I still haven't discounted the notion this could still be a massive propaganda / subterfuge move to remain .
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« Reply #7782 on: April 18, 2017, 03:09:03 PM »

Deutsche Bank, one of the biggest sterling bears in recent years, says it’s changing its view. 2017 election a “game-changer” on Brexit

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« Reply #7783 on: April 18, 2017, 03:25:26 PM »

LD can't hit 48%, there will be plenty of remain voters who are con and lag supporters who won't switch because its not a one issue election

i would expect the LDs to make gains in areas like the south west and i reckon 9 MPs could double,a sort of mean reversion fromthe lows of post coalition

They can't or won't..I think we should be told
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« Reply #7784 on: April 18, 2017, 03:29:48 PM »

Is there any truth in this from Paul Nuttall?

"There is also the prospect of a slew of Tory held by-elections caused by the seeming systematic breach of electoral law at the last election, predominantly in places where Ukip were pressing the Conservatives hard."

I haven't followed the election expenses story at all.

Was the prospect of by-elections in the constituencies where the tories over-spent a realistic one?
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