The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[PokerBroker]

Good post Doobs! 

[RickBFA]

another likely to be very unpopular position

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Not just unpopular, pathetic.

We need to crack on with making the best of the position instead of coming up with such nonsense.

Crack on and drive that bus right off that cliff?

By his logic, every political vote we've had is flawed and should be challenged.

We have Brexit where you, I or this "academic" like it or not.

The reality is no amount of bleating is going to change it.

What's your alternative, get on with it or keep bleating and moaning about a democratic vote?

I have said before, that poll on changing the rules of the referendum after it happened is clearly ludicrous, and I replied saying so on Facebook straight after I saw it.
 
There are other alternatives though.    If Sturgeon has a veto, and several people have speculated she does, then I would say she has a clear mandate from her electorate to exercise that veto.  

Also, the people running the EU should wise up and realise this is immensely damaging to them too and should offer concessions in my view.  Not saying they will, just thar they should.

Or alternatively we should just crack on over that cliff.  If we do I am not going to sit and mope about it, and will just carry on with my life and make the most of it.  But I reserve my right to laugh at the idiocy of most of the protagonists.

Regards.

Massive odds on favourite that you'll be carrying on with your life then and making the most of it. Rather like my post suggested we'll all have to do.

[Pinchop73]

Any positive news to report? 😆

On Friday morning, the people of the Western world woke up to the best news they've heard in about 30 years.

[RickBFA]

One thing we can all agree on, as we all have an interest in politics is this is amazing stuff.

This thread is a cracking read and Tighty should take great credit for the time he spends posting news and views.

Its a must read thread every day, but its turned into must read every hour currently.

[DaveShoelace]

One thing we can all agree on, as we all have an interest in politics is this is amazing stuff.

This thread is a cracking read and Tighty should take great credit for the time he spends posting news and views.

Its a must read thread every day, but its turned into must read every hour currently.

Agree and hat tip to Tighty whom I believe manages this thread in a pretty unbiased and non partisan way.

[arbboy]

Might get blonde back to 10000 posts a month at this rate.  WP all for contributing in a civil manner generally.

[ripple11]

I was quite astonished Boris went off to play cricket yesterday!.....anyway talking of cricket, I was at cricket this morning and a friend ,who's brother in law is very close to Cameron says apparently there is a plan to not leave the EU!

Oh the rumours and gossip....what a time in our political history,

[redsimon]

I don't know if it was discussed in the last dozen or so pages, but how would a new tory P M be able to trigger a general election  before 2020?

[Marky_Crash]

another likely to be very unpopular position

Click to see full-size image.

Not just unpopular, pathetic.

We need to crack on with making the best of the position instead of coming up with such nonsense.

Crack on and drive that bus right off that cliff?

By his logic, every political vote we've had is flawed and should be challenged.

We have Brexit where you, I or this "academic" like it or not.

The reality is no amount of bleating is going to change it.

What's your alternative, get on with it or keep bleating and moaning about a democratic vote?

I have said before, that poll on changing the rules of the referendum after it happened is clearly ludicrous, and I replied saying so on Facebook straight after I saw it.
 
There are other alternatives though.    If Sturgeon has a veto, and several people have speculated she does, then I would say she has a clear mandate from her electorate to exercise that veto.  

Also, the people running the EU should wise up and realise this is immensely damaging to them too and should offer concessions in my view.  Not saying they will, just thar they should.

Or alternatively we should just crack on over that cliff.  If we do I am not going to sit and mope about it, and will just carry on with my life and make the most of it.  But I reserve my right to laugh at the idiocy of most of the protagonists.

Regards.

Great post!

I agree that sturgeon has a clear mandate to use any veto she may have. Having said that I cannot imagine the storm it would cause if that exact scenario played out. While a lot of politicians on both sides would probably initially have a sigh of relief, the division within the UK would probably be ramped up 10 fold.

[DaveShoelace]

I don't know if it was discussed in the last dozen or so pages, but how would a new tory P M be able to trigger a general election  before 2020?

Simplified answer, but isn't the ruling party allowed to call one whenever they want as long as its no longer than five years after getting in?

[TightEnd]

I don't know if it was discussed in the last dozen or so pages, but how would a new tory P M be able to trigger a general election  before 2020?

66% vote in favour in house of commons or repeal of fixed term parlient act by simple majority, which they have on grounds of such a material change in circumstances that new mandate needed

[DaveShoelace]

While a lot of politicians on both sides would probably initially have a sigh of relief, the division within the UK would probably be ramped up 10 fold.

It would be non-stop Braveheart puns and references in the Sun for years.

[JohnCharver]

While a lot of politicians on both sides would probably initially have a sigh of relief, the division within the UK would probably be ramped up 10 fold.

It would be non-stop Braveheart puns and references in the Sun for years.

"The problem with scotland is; its full of scots'

[redsimon]

I don't know if it was discussed in the last dozen or so pages, but how would a new tory P M be able to trigger a general election  before 2020?

66% vote in favour in house of commons or repeal of fixed term parlient act by simple majority, which they have on grounds of such a material change in circumstances that new mandate needed

well can't see them getting 66% and repeal might not be straightforward either.

[DaveShoelace]

Can anyone here think of a more interesting time in British politics than this week? I guess Thatcher becoming PM in 1979 was probably quite seismic at the time.